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France U18s beat Australian AIS U18s

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SL isn't producing good English teams so it's not going to do much for the French. They need to be in the NRL otherwise it's just the blind leading the blind. Don't believe the bullshit from poms that SL is getting better. They're as deluded about that as about everything else.
 

deluded pom?

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Derailment complete. Mission accomplished.

9k=
 

dibviking

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englands john bateman named mom, handing off 2 players and outpacing the cover defence for a try.

england 20 aus 22.

eng.duckworth, percival, bateman, wilde.
aus. watson, falepaini, webster, waianga

attendance 1054
 

deluded pom?

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englands john bateman named mom, handing off 2 players and outpacing the cover defence for a try.

england 20 aus 22.

eng.duckworth, percival, bateman, wilde.
aus. watson, falepaini, webster, waianga

attendance 1054


That's a good effort by the English lads. I believe they ran with an under 17s because they are touring Australia next season and wanted to give them as much gametime together as they could. Not great news if you are outside this age group but still within the top age limit. A once in a lifetime opportunity denied you.
 

Evil Homer

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englands john bateman named mom, handing off 2 players and outpacing the cover defence for a try.

england 20 aus 22.

eng.duckworth, percival, bateman, wilde.
aus. watson, falepaini, webster, waianga

attendance 1054
Some extremely highly rated players in that England team, so if France were able to beat the same Australian side then that looks really good for the future.
 

RedVee

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Another French team would eventually strengthen SL by providing another pool of young players to go into the comp.
Need to get players from more than the traditional few areas.
 

Evil Homer

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In southern france most definitely. Football is marginally more popular nationally i agree.
No, not even in Southern France, not whatsoever. RU is about as popular in France as it is in Australia. In comparison, football would be AFL and NRL combined.
 
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The RFL or FFR are obliged to develop French talent??

Yes cos if you want to legitamise a game you need to be holistic in your approach. French athletes would dominate most british pea hearts and england knows this. France properly focused on league would be very strong a decade from now. France are quick learners.
 

Evil Homer

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Of course they are. The RFL surely can see french development needs a huge push. Maybe they can see France developing too fast for their liking.
The RFL is the governing body for RL in the UK, they have no 'obligation' to do anything, just as the ARL doesn't have any obligation to develop RL in New Zealand or anywhere else.
 

Skeletor

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The problem is you can't just take 17 and 18 year olds out of school, fly them to the other side of the world into a foreign culture on a dream of playing rugby league. Despite the lower level of the ESL they would be much better off participating in Europe and staying close to home. The ESL should aim for a Toyota cup of their own.

Also, steps should be taken to reduce the australasian rugby league center of gravity, not increase it! We can't afford for the NRL to become the be-all and end-all of rugby league.

Yes, because elite football (soccer) academies never do this, do they?

The reason England is so shit is because the junior system there is rubbish. Getting more English players in the NYC would help them immensely, never mind what it would do for French kids. No one is taking them out of school, just as Australian kids aren't taken out of school to play NYC. Although having said that, need I mention the only Frenchman to play NRL in the past generation did actually come here as a schoolboy and then went on to not only speak better English than most of the English team but captain France. If the poms tried to set up their own NYC you can imagine how badly they'd f**k it up. They can't run a decent first grade comp never mind a muti-tiered professional structure. French kids learning RL off them would be like getting Wayne Swan to teach people how to balance a budget.

I think I said a couple of months ago that a good suggestion would be to:
1) Set up 2 new Toyota Cup teams (why not in potential expansion markets for the NRL? Might be a good trial run) owned and funded by the national organisations of France and England respectively.
2) Get 18 year old English and French kids.
3) Offer them contracts with these new entities.
4) Once the 2 years are up they can either stay in Australia (and possibly progress to the NRL) or go back to Superleague.

So now the kids have experience playing together as a team, and exposed to elite coaching and a higher class of opposition. They've been exposed to another culture and we've helped develop international league.

Win/win/win/win/win from what I see.
 

miguel de cervantes

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Yep, that will do wonders for the local leagues. Cherry pick the best players and send them off to a far away land. The fans and what little regional media that still covers the game will be rapt with the mediocrity that remains.

The rugby league centre of gravity that is the NRL and Australia needs to be broken up, not concentrated.
 
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Yeah we need to destroy the game in the only place where it is truly strong.That's how we grow the game, kill off those who set the highest standards. Now that's mediocrity. The best thing to happen to NZ RL was the influx of players to the NRL and the achievements of those players at that level. Might as well get rid of Catalans too and send their players back to the French league.
 

miguel de cervantes

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Yeah we need to destroy the game in the only place where it is truly strong.That's how we grow the game, kill off those who set the highest standards. Now that's mediocrity. The best thing to happen to NZ RL was the influx of players to the NRL and the achievements of those players at that level. Might as well get rid of Catalans too and send their players back to the French league.

:roll: The big difference being the Warriors play in Auckland and the Catalans in Perpinya and remain visible and engaged in the local communities. I'm all for creating a better junior setup in Europe, but sending the best to Australia so the national team can lose by 24 points instead of 30 twice a year at the expense of the domestic competition is madness. It might pass during the very early stages of development, with Soni from Serbia, Apple Pope from the USA for example, but France and England are in a completely different basket.
 

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