The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Pneuma]

I see similarities between Cronulla ad Canterbury.

Neither club has any room to grow as they're wedged into their districts by merged entities. Both clubs draw the lowest revenue from ticketing, membership, sponsorship and hospitality. The only real difference is Bulldogs have a larger fanbase.

Stadium Australia isn't really a good ground for regular season NRL games. It reminds me of QEII Stadium when the Broncos played at it.

I see similarities between you and a potato

 

[MugaB]

I see similarities between you and a potato

I was just about to write the same thing... great minds and all that

 

[siv]

You may find Canterbury branch out into the growing region west of Liverpool but south of the new airport

 

[Dogs Of War]

I see similarities between Cronulla ad Canterbury.

Neither club has any room to grow as they're wedged into their districts by merged entities. Both clubs draw the lowest revenue from ticketing, membership, sponsorship and hospitality. The only real difference is Bulldogs have a larger fanbase.

Stadium Australia isn't really a good ground for regular season NRL games. It reminds me of QEII Stadium when the Broncos played at it.

Tell me you don't know Sydney without saying so.

 

[AdelaideSharky]

I see similarities between you and a potato

Think a potato has more intelligence than the mental case that is GROTD.

 

[mongoose]

I see similarities between Cronulla ad Canterbury.

Neither club has any room to grow as they're wedged into their districts by merged entities. Both clubs draw the lowest revenue from ticketing, membership, sponsorship and hospitality. The only real difference is Bulldogs have a larger fanbase.

Stadium Australia isn't really a good ground for regular season NRL games. It reminds me of QEII Stadium when the Broncos played at it.

they shouldn't need room to grow though... If the Bulldogs and Sharks represent small wedged in areas and can't grow then Souths are totally screwed, except Souths have grown their fanbase all over the city.

 

[Munky]

Think a potato has more intelligence than the mental case that is GROTD.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Tell me you don't know Sydney without saying so.

This is an ad hominem designed to divert attention away from the points I've made.

Which area adjacent to Bulldogs and Sharks is currently unoccupied by an NRL team?

The annual reports from both clubs provide grim reading.

 

[Jamberoo]

I see similarities between Cronulla ad Canterbury.

Neither club has any room to grow as they're wedged into their districts by merged entities. Both clubs draw the lowest revenue from ticketing, membership, sponsorship and hospitality. The only real difference is Bulldogs have a larger fanbase.

Stadium Australia isn't really a good ground for regular season NRL games. It reminds me of QEII Stadium when the Broncos played at it.

If that is the way that either club thinks about growing their fan base, they you are right, they will not grow.

NRL would be the last competition in the world where the majority of a club’s fan base is concentrated in a few suburbs around their original home. And difficulty in attending games is no excuse. EPL clubs have fans and sell merch all around the world. Ditto NBA/NFL. Some AFL clubs (e.g. Hawthorn) have 20k members outside their home state. Souths have done it brilliantly. They and Storm are the only NRL clubs with a national brand. It is time to grow.

Actually it is 25 years past that time.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

they shouldn't need room to grow though... If the Bulldogs and Sharks represent small wedged in areas and can't grow then Souths are totally screwed, except Souths have grown their fanbase all over the city.

Inner city clubs like Magpies, Bears, Rabbitohs, Tigers, Roosters, Dragons and Jets were negatively impacted by expansion into the outer suburbs.

Rabbitohs didn't recover until Crowe and Holmes-a-Court bailed them out.

Jets and Bears are dead.

Dragons merged with Steelers and are now based out of Wollongong.

Tigers and Magpies merged and have been a disjointed mess with no identity. Magpies were changing locations regularly in their last two decades.

Roosters were f**ked until Politis came along in the 90s and benefitted from the demise of Bears.

Rabbitohs benefitted from demise of Jets.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

If that is the way that either club thinks about growing their fan base, they you are right, they will not grow.

NRL would be the last competition in the world where the majority of a club’s fan base is concentrated in a few suburbs around their original home. And difficulty in attending games is no excuse. EPL clubs have fans and sell merch all around the world. Ditto NBA/NFL. Some AFL clubs (e.g. Hawthorn) have 20k members outside their home state. Souths have done it brilliantly. They and Storm are the only NRL clubs with a national brand. It is time to grow.

Actually it is 25 years past that time.

The problem is Sydney RL fans and officials deliberately anchor themselves to a small region. The NSWRL and its clubs refuse to abandon the ridiculous junior boundaries system that limits how big each club can grow. South Sydney didn't grow until they were forced out of Redfern due to changing demographics and politics during the 90s and 00s.

 

[Quicksilver]

Inner city clubs like Magpies, Bears, Rabbitohs, Tigers, Roosters, Dragons and Jets were negatively impacted by expansion into the outer suburbs.

Rabbitohs didn't recover until Crowe and Holmes-a-Court bailed them out.

Jets and Bears are dead.

Dragons merged with Steelers and are now based out of Wollongong.

Tigers and Magpies merged and have been a disjointed mess with no identity. Magpies were changing locations regularly in their last two decades.

Roosters were f**ked until Politis came along in the 90s and benefitted from the demise of Bears.

Rabbitohs benefitted from demise of Jets.

All clubs are stuffed without an "except for"

But that goes for everything in life, doesn't it?

I wouldn't be able to afford to eat today. Except for the fact that I went to work yesterday.

 

[Quicksilver]

The problem is Sydney RL fans and officials deliberately amchor themselves to a small region. The NSWRL and its clubs refuse to abandon the ridiculous junior boundaries system that limits how big each club can grow. South Sydney didn't grow until they were forced out of Redfern due to changing demographics and politics during the 90s and 00s.

It's not 1960. There is no junior boundary system.

Clubs will support their junior base but they pull recruits from all over.

 

[Wb1234]

If that is the way that either club thinks about growing their fan base, they you are right, they will not grow.

NRL would be the last competition in the world where the majority of a club’s fan base is concentrated in a few suburbs around their original home. And difficulty in attending games is no excuse. EPL clubs have fans and sell merch all around the world. Ditto NBA/NFL. Some AFL clubs (e.g. Hawthorn) have 20k members outside their home state. Souths have done it brilliantly. They and Storm are the only NRL clubs with a national brand. It is time to grow.

Actually it is 25 years past that time.

Your point is a good one

but the reality is League can be different and succeed

I’m sure afl clubs would love to have leagues clubs worth hundreds of millions behind them who can basically tip in whatever money they need

south’s had to develop their brand because their leagues club failed and they didn’t want to get taken over by the cashed up south’s juniors

football codes make money from various types of gambling sponsorships

league is lucky to have them

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

The bulldogs play out of the ground the grand final is held in. So yeah. Like most trans. Start winning and the crowds follow.

I’m not sure if you understand how the bulldogs work with the leagues club being controlled by the football club. So the footy club doesn’t need to make a profit. It just grants itself what it needs.

He doesn’t understand anything logical ..
Everything to him is
Syd clubs bad
Pokies bad
That’s it

 

[Dogs Of War]

He doesn’t understand anything logical ..
Everything to him is
Syd clubs bad
Pokies bad
That’s it

He does enjoy it when I go to Wynumn-Manly Seagulls games though. That said when I was in Sydney I lived close to Belmore so used to go to the lower grade games there. Great day at the footy for stuff all.

 

[Canard]

If that is the way that either club thinks about growing their fan base, they you are right, they will not grow.

NRL would be the last competition in the world where the majority of a club’s fan base is concentrated in a few suburbs around their original home. And difficulty in attending games is no excuse. EPL clubs have fans and sell merch all around the world. Ditto NBA/NFL. Some AFL clubs (e.g. Hawthorn) have 20k members outside their home state. Souths have done it brilliantly. They and Storm are the only NRL clubs with a national brand. It is time to grow.

Actually it is 25 years past that time.

Are you high? Collingwood is the biggest club in Australia and yet it's suburb population is about 8000 people total.

You and @Get Rid of The Donkeys ( who must pull cones constantly) think that a club like the Canterbury Bulldogs only draws support from its LGA.

How f**king high most you be to believe this?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Are you high? Collingwood is the biggest club in Australia and yet it's suburb population is about 8000 people total.

You and @Get Rid of The Donkeys ( who must pull cones constantly) think that a club like the Canterbury Bulldogs only draws support from its LGA.

How f**king high most you be to believe this?

I'm going on the figures from the annual reports to see how many active supporters there are providing money to their clubs.

If the Bulldogs had a massive supporter base around the country then they would be buying non-ticketed memberships and merchandise. The annual reports for the Bulldogs prove the club draws very little revenue from membership and merchandise

What part of this aren't you able to get through your skull?

Bulldogs might have a shit load of casual fans who watch the odd game on TV, but they don't attend games or buy membership packages and merchandise.

I'll never understand why you think a casual fan who doesn't provide any f**king money to the club they support is important. All that matters in professional sport is how many active fans contribute to their club's bottom line. The fact this simple concept goes right over your head makes me wonder if you're on drugs.

 

[Canard]

I'm going on the figures from the annual reports to see how many active supporters there are providing money to their clubs.

If the Bulldogs had a massive supporter base around the country then they would be buying non-ticketed memberships and merchandise. The annual reports for the Bulldogs prove the club draws very little revenue from membership and merchandise

What part of this aren't you able to get through your skull?
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Bulldogs might have a shit load of casual fans who watch the odd game on TV, but they don't attend games or buy membership packages and merchandise.

I'll never understand why you think a casual fan who doesn't provide any f**king money to the club they support is important. All that matters in professional sport is how many active fans contribute to their club's bottom line. The fact this simple concept goes right over your head makes me wonder if you're on drugs.

I've never even mentioned the term casual fan. You are cherry picking your information as usual.

They have consistently had big membership and crowd numbers.

The weed you smoke daily has addled your brain, they are one of the biggest clubs in the NRL and after a number of fallow years will be back big time in the next few seasons

 

[Pneuma]

I'm going on the figures from the annual reports to see how many active supporters there are providing money to their clubs.

If the Bulldogs had a massive supporter base around the country then they would be buying non-ticketed memberships and merchandise. The annual reports for the Bulldogs prove the club draws very little revenue from membership and merchandise

What part of this aren't you able to get through your skull?

Bulldogs might have a shit load of casual fans who watch the odd game on TV, but they don't attend games or buy membership packages and merchandise.

I'll never understand why you think a casual fan who doesn't provide any f**king money to the club they support is important. All that matters in professional sport is how many active fans contribute to their club's bottom line. The fact this simple concept goes right over your head makes me wonder if you're on drugs.

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