The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Captain Apollo]

Not very original, Anthony Albanese said exactly the same thing about the rabbits 3 years earlier.
As Foley was brought up in Sn'Ives I think a life time devotion to the roosters unlikely

I knew both Anthony Albanese and Luke Foley when I was at Uni. I can assure you, they are respectively died in the wool Rabbitohs and Roosters fans.

 

[El Diablo]

are they sheep?

 

[Captain Apollo]

are they sheep?

Nah, otherwise Albo might have some issues with Rusty Crowe if he was

 

[El Diablo]

he might like that?

 

[herbert henry1908]

It's not yet 30 years old. The Sports Ground that preceded it was there at least 3 times that long.

Sadly like ANZ it was poorly designed from the start.

Does anyone remember the early days when the wind & rain blew in on people at the top of the stands? They then had to add sails so it wouldn't happen. Obviously the waterline of the roof was also a terrible design.

I'm almost certain the outcome here will be two new stadiums.

They'll add another $500 million to the stadium kitty to get it done.

 

[horrie hastings]

It's not yet 30 years old. The Sports Ground that preceded it was there at least 3 times that long.

I miss the old Sports Ground hill, a beautiful sunny Sunday afternoon and the sun setting in your face with the East/ West alignment of the ground.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Sadly like ANZ it was poorly designed from the start.

Does anyone remember the early days when the wind & rain blew in on people at the top of the stands? They then had to add sails so it wouldn't happen. Obviously the waterline of the roof was also a terrible design.

I'm almost certain the outcome here will be two new stadiums.

They'll add another $500 million to the stadium kitty to get it done.

Early days?! Try on its opening night (Friday 4 March 1988) on the very first time it was used for a sporting event (which was the Roosters v Dragons).

 

[herbert henry1908]

Early days?! Try on its opening night (Friday 4 March 1988) on the very first time it was used for a sporting event (which was the Roosters v Dragons).

That's what I meant.

First 2-3 years when it rained virtually everyone got wet.

Even still the roof line is terrible.

 

[unforgiven]

That's what I meant.

First 2-3 years when it rained virtually everyone got wet.

Even still the roof line is terrible.

The issue the trust are raising now is the SFS' inability to deal with a terrorist situation, if there is a terror attack or some other major emergency at the ground, the ground does not have the ability to move a large number of people out of the venue in a short space of time. The venue was built with inadequate entry and exit points to allow a large number of people to get out of the ground safely in an emergency situation.

The problem we have in combating this is they are actually correct in this assessment and with the empthasis being placed on terror at this point in time it is a very difficult argument to counter.

 

[Brutus]

That's what I meant.

First 2-3 years when it rained virtually everyone got wet.

Even still the roof line is terrible.

It certainly wasn't a stadium everyone wanted to attend in that first year -1988. The Origin, Test and club crowds were poor.

 

[taipan]

The issue the trust are raising now is the SFS' inability to deal with a terrorist situation, if there is a terror attack or some other major emergency at the ground, the ground does not have the ability to move a large number of people out of the venue in a short space of time. The venue was built with inadequate entry and exit points to allow a large number of people to get out of the ground safely in an emergency situation.

The problem we have in combating this is they are actually correct in this assessment and with the empthasis being placed on terror at this point in time it is a very difficult argument to counter.

All they need to do is have the Bulldogs play there every week, it will empty faster than a slab of beer down Slothfield's glughole.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The issue the trust are raising now is the SFS' inability to deal with a terrorist situation, if there is a terror attack or some other major emergency at the ground, the ground does not have the ability to move a large number of people out of the venue in a short space of time. The venue was built with inadequate entry and exit points to allow a large number of people to get out of the ground safely in an emergency situation.

The problem we have in combating this is they are actually correct in this assessment and with the empthasis being placed on terror at this point in time it is a very difficult argument to counter.

Oh I get that, just pointing out that it was riddled with errors from the get go.

In regards to the issues the SCG trust has raised though.

1. If what they're saying is correct then surely the venue should be immediately limited to a reduced capacity.

2. Increasing the exits is likely major structural work. A modification would be extremely costly. Knock down a much better option.

3. Exits aren't the only issue with dispersing people, the lack of room around the ground is also a major concern. This would be similar across the road too. (This bodes well for ANZ being the major stadium)

4. Why are they just raising this now? What exactly is the board of the trust paid to do? This seems like extreme incompetence on their part.

With all that said the best option appears to me to knock down the stadium & rebuild a 30k seat venue.

30k venue appears possible to build for around the $400m mark.

300-400m for parra

300-400m for Allianz

800m- 1 billion for ANZ

Stuff modification to the venues, knock them down and start again.

If they all have the seat gradient parra will have we'll have 3 excellent venues in Sydney.

 

[Perth Red]

Oh I get that, just pointing out that it was riddled with errors from the get go.

In regards to the issues the SCG trust has raised though.

1. If what they're saying is correct then surely the venue should be immediately limited to a reduced capacity.

2. Increasing the exits is likely major structural work. A modification would be extremely costly. Knock down a much better option.

3. Exits aren't the only issue with dispersing people, the lack of room around the ground is also a major concern. This would be similar across the road too. (This bodes well for ANZ being the major stadium)

4. Why are they just raising this now? What exactly is the board of the trust paid to do? This seems like extreme incompetence on their part.

With all that said the best option appears to me to knock down the stadium & rebuild a 30k seat venue.

30k venue appears possible to build for around the $400m mark.

300-400m for parra

300-400m for Allianz

800m- 1 billion for ANZ

Stuff modification to the venues, knock them down and start again.

If they all have the seat gradient parra will have we'll have 3 excellent venues in Sydney.

Far too sensible!

 

[T to the T]

Can anyone provide a quick update of the stadium situation of what venue is getting what and when? Cheers

 

[Perth Red]

Future SOO stadium! Had a walk past the new Perth stadium at the weekend, its a very attractive looking stadium, well done to the designers. Be interesting to see how it goes in its rectangular configuration.

 

[unforgiven]

Oh I get that, just pointing out that it was riddled with errors from the get go.

In regards to the issues the SCG trust has raised though.

1. If what they're saying is correct then surely the venue should be immediately limited to a reduced capacity.

2. Increasing the exits is likely major structural work. A modification would be extremely costly. Knock down a much better option.

3. Exits aren't the only issue with dispersing people, the lack of room around the ground is also a major concern. This would be similar across the road too. (This bodes well for ANZ being the major stadium)

4. Why are they just raising this now? What exactly is the board of the trust paid to do? This seems like extreme incompetence on their part.

With all that said the best option appears to me to knock down the stadium & rebuild a 30k seat venue.

30k venue appears possible to build for around the $400m mark.

300-400m for parra

300-400m for Allianz

800m- 1 billion for ANZ

Stuff modification to the venues, knock them down and start again.

If they all have the seat gradient parra will have we'll have 3 excellent venues in Sydney.

I agree 100% on all points, especially number 2. This is the argument the trust is making as well, they are saying $137m just to fix this aspect.

On point 4 the reason they are raising it now is its their only option left to rob from ANZ and get the $ for themselves.

I also agree on doing all 3 venues, this is a once in a lifetime chance to get the stadium situation in Sydney right. The problem is if we do all 3 the AFL will have more of an argument to keeping ANZ stadium multipurpose as they will use the argument that if 3 grounds are being built they should be able to access one of them.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Can anyone provide a quick update of the stadium situation of what venue is getting what and when? Cheers

It's complicated, no real quick answer.

If they stick to the original proposal

- Parra is being built now to a 30k seat venue with the steepest gradient seats in Australia ( this is locked in) Should be finished in 2019.

- ANZ stadium should be next and reconfigured to a 72k permanent rectangle. This should start sometime in 2019.

- then whatever is left out of 1.6 billion will go to ANZ. Probably start sometime around 2022.


But,

They're reviewing it all because of a supposed blowout in the cost of ANZ stadium. Apparently the premier willl announce the new plan within the month.

My feeling is & she hinted at this last week, they'lll increase the stadium budget, which is currently 1.6 billion, to get them all done. I think Allianz will be knocked down.

 

[herbert henry1908]

I agree 100% on all points, especially number 2. This is the argument the trust is making as well, they are saying $137m just to fix this aspect.

On point 4 the reason they are raising it now is its their only option left to rob from ANZ and get the $ for themselves.

I also agree on doing all 3 venues, this is a once in a lifetime chance to get the stadium situation in Sydney right. The problem is if we do all 3 the AFL will have more of an argument to keeping ANZ stadium multipurpose as they will use the argument that if 3 grounds are being built they should be able to access one of them.

I honestly don't think the AFL will get their way this time. Much more likely they throw them a bone with a proposal to increase spotless stadium. Plus shepherd won't get his way with both ANZ & Allianz.

I agree they're raising it now to rob ANZ or at least get an overall funding increase, but if the security report is correct, then they're extremely incompetent for just raising it now.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Future SOO stadium! Had a walk past the new Perth stadium at the weekend, its a very attractive looking stadium, well done to the designers. Be interesting to see how it goes in its rectangular configuration.

The stands don't move in or anything though, do they?

Hopefully the aspects are decent for rectangular codes.

 

[unforgiven]

I honestly don't think the AFL will get their way this time. Much more likely they throw them a bone with a proposal to increase spotless stadium. Plus shepherd won't get his way with both ANZ & Allianz.

I agree they're raising it now to rob ANZ or at least get an overall funding increase, but if the security report is correct, then they're extremely incompetent for just raising it now.

I don't know how correct the security report is, but I'd hate to have to get out of the place in an emergency. Too many bottlenecks and areas to set up secondary attacks for my liking.

Im guessing they have received updated security reports after recent attacks overseas so saw this as an opportunity ti get their way.