The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[westerntiger]

Haven't been following the state election in any detail has anyone said anything about the new Penrith stadium?

 

[Wb1234]

Depends which side lower bowl.

The eastern side was revamped in 1998/1999 for the olympics and is a lot better. The western is the older side and much worse in design IMO.

The side opposite the camera

I sat in that it was poor

 

[Perth Red]

Fair enough, it didnt feel this bad when I was there but I was frozen and a few beers in lol Yeh it could def do with a new stand that side closer to pitch

 

[horrie hastings]

Yeah it was annoying. I went yesterday and a mate drove - had to park in some random hilly/grassy paddock which was $10 for the privilege haha

Lol, $10 is a bargain for parking, have been going down to Canberra for quite a few years now for the games against the Roosters and parking was $7 there for quite a while , last year they had the sign up for $10 but for some reason was only charged $5, think may have been charged seniors rates . The one thing i like about the car parking at Bruce is how easy and quick it is to get out of after the game.

 

[Perth Red]

Lol, $10 is a bargain for parking, have been going down to Canberra for quite a few years now for the games against the Roosters and parking was $7 there for quite a while , last year they had the sign up for $10 but for some reason was only charged $5, think may have been charged seniors rates . The one thing i like about the car parking at Bruce is how easy and quick it is to get out of after the game.

I got a taxi or Uber, was a bit drunk, from wherever my hotel was. felt like I was going to a different town lol.

 

[horrie hastings]

I got a taxi or Uber, was a bit drunk, from wherever my hotel was. felt like I was going to a different town lol.

A few times we stayed at friends at nearby Hawker so it was a quick trip back to there, the last couple of times we stayed at a hotel near Kingston and credit to the better half not getting lost getting back in the dark. I know its been bought up before but the lack of public transport to the ground is appalling.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Lol, $10 is a bargain for parking, have been going down to Canberra for quite a few years now for the games against the Roosters and parking was $7 there for quite a while , last year they had the sign up for $10 but for some reason was only charged $5, think may have been charged seniors rates . The one thing i like about the car parking at Bruce is how easy and quick it is to get out of after the game.

Definitely. Was just laughing about how where we were sent was legit a cow paddock, felt like we went to the Oakey rodeo and not an NRL game.

 

[Pjf04b]

Haven't been following the state election in any detail has anyone said anything about the new Penrith stadium?

Perrotet and the Liberals say yes at the Paceway, Minns and Labor have reservedly said yes but maybe on the existing site.
But …… election promises are made to be broken!

Fingers crossed!

 

[Wb1234]

Pretty resounding

 

[It's Been Done]

Pretty resounding

Really depends on the occasion, during the year for regular matches, suburban grounds. For finals, at a sold out stadium especially if it's two big rivals going head to head

 

[westerntiger]

We should be aiming to upgrade the suburban grounds to all seated venues, similar to the stadiums in Super League/English club rugby. Trouble is building costs are exorbitant in Sydney and clubs expect the taxpayer to fully fund them

 

[Perth Red]

Pretty resounding

Pretty sad, shows how far we have to go in NRL to give people the experience in a new stadium that it can bring if they still prefer antiquated grounds that were barley fit for purpose in the 80's. Be interesting if you broke it down by age and gender. If someone new to the game tuned in to games at Kogorah, Win, LO, Belmore they would think they are watching a second division competition, not a premier sport.

Also you have to separate out what is meant by suburban grounds and all seated venues. Accor stadium is shite, commbank is in same suburban area as the old ground.

Stadium design in Australia could do with changing though. No rectangular sport is regularly drawing 20k plus crowds outside of Brisbane. They need to change design to a lower bowl of 20k and an upper bowl of 10k with a way of screening off the upper bowl for most games to give a more intimate atmosphere. Why they design smaller lower bowls and larger upper bowls I dont understand?

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Stadium design in Australia could do with changing though. No rectangular sport is regularly drawing 20k plus crowds outside of Brisbane. They need to change design to a lower bowl of 20k and an upper bowl of 10k with a way of screening off the upper bowl for most games to give a more intimate atmosphere. Why they design smaller lower bowls and larger upper bowls I dont understand?

Well for one reason the basic geometry of a stadium means that if you build a fully enclosed stadium the upper bowl always holds more because it has a larger circumference being outside of the lower bowl.
the only way to do what you suggest is to only have upper bowl areas above the sides as per Accor or AMI. But this seems to make for worse drip lines as the roof needs to be higher for an equivalent capacity. Basically the best way to make a fully seated fully covered stadium is to wrap both tiers all the way around and that’s going to mean more upper tier capacity.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The whole big vs suburban question is kinda bs though. People want a bunch of things:

A good view
Cover if it rains (though they might just stay home)
Ease of access (especially if it rains)
Decent facilities (food, bar, toilets)
And prices that don’t send them broke.

they’ll go for whatever type of ground hits the most out of those.

 

[Wb1234]

I think the popularity of suburban grounds is their location as opposed to the amenity

that’s one of the reasons League split from union in 1908 was union was forcing clubs to not play games in their district

 

[Perth Red]

I think the popularity of suburban grounds is their location as opposed to the amenity

that’s one of the reasons League split from union in 1908 was union was forcing clubs to not play games in their district

And yet they consistently draw the lowest crowd avg's of the grounds/stadiums in the NRL.

 

[Wb1234]

And yet they consistently draw the lowest crowd avg's of the grounds/stadiums in the NRL.

that’s what the fans want

 

[Perth Red]

that’s what the fans want

eh? so grounds that draw the lowest number of fans to them are what the fans want?
Thats some mixed up logic right there.

 

[Wb1234]

eh? so grounds that draw the lowest number of fans to them are what the fans want?
Thats some mixed up logic right there.

It’s funny seeing how you dream the nrl to be to how it actually is

 

[Perth Red]

It’s funny seeing how you dream the nrl to be to how it actually is

its funny how you constantly deflect from the conversation, actually it isnt.
Suburban grounds draw less fans. FACT