The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Perth Red]

Cronulla and Perth Stadiums are total bottom feeders.

But Cronulla doesn’t pretend to be anything but suburban. Perth has delusions of being an important city.

Ones 12k with a gras hill, ones 20,500 all seater. Jog on.

hbf stadium >>>Penrith, belmore, brookvale, shark park, dolphin park, win, kogorah, LO, Campbelltown, Sunshine Coast, canberra

 

[Desert Qlder]

Perth has risen above Redcliffe. Look out world.

 

[Bukowski]

Perth has risen above Redcliffe. Look out world.

Come see us when Qld can get a bigger crowd than perth for origin.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

LOL, are you serious?

Based on decades of living here, a decent knowledge of Canberra's history, and data that's comparable and isn't corrupted by including samples from the surrounding regions of NSW like you insist on doing even if you don't realise it.

Too bad you failed to find it. . .

There're 12 AR clubs and 11 RL clubs in Canberra (it could be argued that 4 of those RL clubs are only 1 in fact, but I'm being generous).

There're 202 AR teams and 205 RL teams. That's a recent phenomena that's only changed in the last year. Before this year AR had slightly more teams than RL, but that number pretty regularly yo-yos and will continue to do so going forward.

Playing numbers for Canberra/ACT alone aren't reported by either sport, and I couldn't be bothered to go through and counting up the players in each team in each age group. We would have had to assume that they all had full squads, so the number would have been inaccurate anyway. However there are 22 players in an average AR team and only 17 in a RL team, and AR junior sides have more players than RL also. So yeah, we don't need the exact number, it's a fait accompli...

BTW, those numbers don't include school comps. I can't find any reliable data on school comp numbers for teams just from Canberra/ACT for either sport, however AR is popular in the private school system in Canberra where RL has no presence whatsoever, so it's more than safe to assume that there're more school AR teams than RL and that's definitely my anecdotal experience as well.

The tl;dr is that the participation numbers show pretty much exactly what I said they would.

Aside from not knowing that RL had 3 more teams than AR for the first time in a while this year (you can thank the recent boom in women's RL for that), there're more AR clubs and players in Canberra, and both sports are really close in size. There's almost nothing in it, just like I said there'd be.

Ok, so based on anecdotal Great Dane evidence... i.e. based on nothing, I thought so

 

[The Great Dane]

Just stew in your misery mate

Hiding behind weak mockery doesn't change the fact that you were wrong.

Ok, so based on anecdotal Great Dane evidence... i.e. based on nothing, I thought so

There's nothing anecdotal about those numbers, and they're the best data that exists publicly for comparing the sports in just Canberra/ACT.

Go do the work for yourself if you like-

https://www.playrugbyleague.com/Competitions/Association/canberra-region-rugby-league-85?type=clubs

https://aflcanberra.com.au/

 

[Wb1234]

Hiding behind weak mockery doesn't change the fact that you were wrong.

There's nothing anecdotal about those numbers, and they're the best data that exists publicly for comparing the sports in just Canberra/ACT.

Go do the work for yourself if you like-

https://www.playrugbyleague.com/Competitions/Association/canberra-region-rugby-league-85?type=clubs

https://aflcanberra.com.au/

Google search data shows rugby league dominates canberra

Sorry bro don’t want to be the bearer of bad news

 

[Perth Red]

Google search data shows rugby league dominates canberra

Sorry bro don’t want to be the bearer of bad news

Stadium thread

 

[TheRam]

I don’t think AFL fans look at it that way. Why would an Eagles or Dockers fan feel threatened by a Perth RL team?

I didn't say they are. They just don't give a toss, until and if ever threatened by a new kid on the block.

So if we ever come knocking on their door we better be well prepared or that door will be slammed shut in our face good and hard.

People will ignore you unless they feel you are trying to encroach on their main love and turf. Not many people are all that open minded when there has been generational traditions based on one and only one major football code in a region for decades.

We need to be at a glorious best if we want to make a good go of it or else it could go terribly wrong and hard to change a negative perception. The stadium is the stage that our game will be on display to a public that are used to an amazing theatre of dreams. We can't go in with a hand me down and think that that is somehow going to capture their imagination.

If we do then our crowds will reflect not only the fortunes of the team, but the luster of the house we invite them in.

 

[Pneuma]

Ok, so based on anecdotal Great Dane evidence... i.e. based on nothing, I thought so

It’s not hard to get the real data. Play rugby league has ours. There are just on 400 teams in the Canberra district rugby league which is around 6500 players. The afl Canberra site has about half that and both sites include teams outside Canberra itself. You can always rely of the GD to put a negative slant on rugby league. He is a very miserable negative soul.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

We'll the cameras be able to zoom into the hotel bedrooms at shark Park whilst a couple are putting on a show. Shown on the new big screen an all across Australia. That should get fans through the gate an ratings go up.

they need to move the big screen for the people in the hotel

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

Very funny. I was wondering off the back of PVL commitment to the Sharks if there have been any subsequent mock ups.

i wasnt tryingt to be snarky either

it is, and always has been, what it is going to be.

 

[Pneuma]

i wasnt tryingt to be snarky either

it is, and always has been, what it is going to be.

Which so far hasn’t been much

 

[APPSY]

What NRLstadiums do we believe are the current / future focus for upgrades / rebuilds per State Government?

For example - The Gabba is being rebuilt in the coming years for the Olympics, so that one is a state government priority with QLD (I know the gabba isn't a rectangular stadium but just used it as an example)

 

[Pneuma]

What NRLstadiums do we believe are the current / future focus for upgrades / rebuilds per State Government?

For example - The Gabba is being rebuilt in the coming years for the Olympics, so that one is a state government priority with QLD (I know the gabba isn't a rectangular stadium but just used it as an example)

Has there been some opposition to the Gabba rebuild? I’m hearing there is but I’m not sure if the extent of it.

 

[Perth Red]

Perth has risen above Redcliffe. Look out world.

And 10 other nrl stadiums lol

 

[APPSY]

Has there been some opposition to the Gabba rebuild? I’m hearing there is but I’m not sure if the extent of it.

Thousands have signed petitions as they're already relocating a school and is misplacing nearly 2,400 residents when there are parts of the city that can easily entertain a stadium required for the Olympics, especially with the new Cross River Rail project, it'd make sense to build a new one, but I get that having two massive oval stadiums in a city dominated by rectangular sports is the way to go.

 

[Perth Red]

What NRLstadiums do we believe are the current / future focus for upgrades / rebuilds per State Government?

For example - The Gabba is being rebuilt in the coming years for the Olympics, so that one is a state government priority with QLD (I know the gabba isn't a rectangular stadium but just used it as an example)

It’s a short list! At moment the only two with funding commitments made are Penrith and sunshine coast.

hbf park may get upgraded if nrl bring in perth, or may not.

beyond that the obvious ones for upgrades are brookvale, win, canberra, shark park, Newcastle, mt smart, campbelltown. But theres been no funding commitment to them from nz govt, state or feds At moment.

 

[Perth Red]

Thousands have signed petitions as they're already relocating a school and is misplacing nearly 2,400 residents when there are parts of the city that can easily entertain a stadium required for the Olympics, especially with the new Cross River Rail project, it'd make sense to build a new one, but I get that having two massive oval stadiums in a city dominated by rectangular sports is the way to go.

The city planning part is great though to link the stadium area up with the south bank. From a sports tourism point of view it works well. you want stadiums close to the city and action, not out in the burbs. Cough Sydney.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

This thread has a focus on locations of future stadiums.

But what about what future stadiums look like? What do fans want in a stadium? What materials and technologies are being used overseas ?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

The city planning part is great though to link the stadium area up with the south bank. From a sports tourism point of view it works well. you want stadiums close to the city and action, not out in the burbs. Cough Sydney.

Give the Sydney bashing a rest you tiresome dullard.