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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

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Wb1234

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Perth Red said:
No you're misrepresenting what he said. He said the public debate was damaging, not the original stadium choice was damaging. It is clear the IOC was more than happy with the original plan of building a new stadium otherwise they wouldnt have awarded them hosting rights.
And as for using existing stadiums, how many cities in the world who havent hosted Olympics in recent times have a suitable athletics stadium? They would nearly all require significant spend.
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Mr Coates put forward a proposal using the existing Gabba, Lang Park and QSAC (Queensland Sport and Athletics Centre) stadiums, in line with the so-called "new norm" that encourages host cities to use the facilities they already have.

And this is the option the government picked, opting for less expensive upgrades and "modest enhancements".
 
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Desert Qlder said:
Brisbane didn't ask for much apart from the first test of the series. It doesn't draw well as it is still in school/work time but it was a tradition and a great advantage for the Australian test team.

But CA f**ked that tradition pandering to their Indian overlords. Then put the blame on the Brisbane public while they were taking the subcontinent up their backsides.

So CA can get f**ked. They can drown in a mire of 20/20 garbage for all I care.
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I know this is a RL forum, but it seems to me Cricket is becoming more and more irrelevant every year. CA are probably stoked so much immigration is coming from the subcontinent these days. The only talk about cricket I hear around the place these days is BBL.- but that could be just the circles I get around in. What’s everyone else’s experience here.

So to bring it back to the topic, if we are to get maximum ROI for these Olympics, a 60k oval isn’t that. A Suncorp Stadium that could actually battle for a GF as well as increase SOO/Magic Round attendance- that’s something worthwhile for the community that isn’t on offer otherwise.
 
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I’ve said it before, cricket is dying before our eyes.

It only holds on because of nostalgia and cultural/historical relevance. But it is determined to destroy even that with decisions like taking the first test off Brisbane.

CA is now just a branch office of BCCI.
 
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i0Nic said:
Olympics of the past is not the model of a more sustainable Olympics of the future. As planned by the IOC.

While there have been some crazy large new oval stadiums built specifically for the Olympics in the past, including Sydney, it’s not the model the IOC wants to see continue. They don’t want governments going bankrupt or hanging onto white elephants, it’s not good for the Olympics.

A smaller more economical athletics stadium would be perfectly good for the games.

Now Australia is in a highly unique position as a country where a large oval stadium could actually be utilised post games - for cricket and afl.

So it’s not a question of an upgraded qsac not being ‘worthy’ of hosting the athletics - according to IOC’s updated strategy to make hosting the games more economical and sustainable it’s perfect.

it’s a question of where the qld and Australian government sees worth spending the funds.

I think we can all agree the showpiece and largest stadium for Brisbane should be a rectangular stadium given the demand for rectangular sports in the state.

Building a costly new oval will mean that it will set back a rectangular showpiece for Brisbane for decades like it has in Sydney. this isn’t in the best interest of Brisbane, rugby league or anyone other than the AFL honchos.
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It's not in the best interest of the QLD Govt either. Origin, Magic Rd, Wallabies, Socceroos, Matildas... all of these events drive tourism and revenue and it's because of Suncorp and Caxton St. Suncorp is becoming way too small a venue for these kind of events it pulls and needs to be brought to 65k urgently, preferably 70k which will drive further tourism and revenue.
 
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Wb1234 said:

Protecting the Olympic brand was key to Coates stadiums plan for Brisbane, says Graham Quirk - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au amp.abc.net.au


Mr Coates put forward a proposal using the existing Gabba, Lang Park and QSAC (Queensland Sport and Athletics Centre) stadiums, in line with the so-called "new norm" that encourages host cities to use the facilities they already have.

And this is the option the government picked, opting for less expensive upgrades and "modest enhancements".
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Thank you for posting. John Coates is a current IOC member and former vice president. The reason he suggested that Brisbane use Suncorp, the Gabba and QSAC is because cities are waking up to the enormous cost of hosting the games and the bidders were dwindling. They had to pivot and Brisbane is the starting point for that.

 
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Perth Red said:
Then why didnt they raise that as an issue when the application was submitted?

In reality what he said was ""He expressed to me that the Olympics brand was being badly damaged by the public debate"

So not the plan but the politics and the indecision leading to public divide was damaging. Clearly the IOC was happy with the original plan.

Reality is Brisbane will be on track to spend similar to LA and Paris. This notion that IOC is cutting back and using Brisbane as a showcase for its new austerity approach is nonsense. The problem is politics have hijacked Brisbane Olympic venue decisions, And despite independent recommendations the pollies continue to use it as a football as we approach election time.
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Public sentiment after announcing the Gabba (not only cost, but closure of the East Brisbane State School) was damaging the image of the Olympics according to the man himself
 
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Perth Red said:
Except the next olympics is being hosted in a stadium of 77k
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This isn't correct. The capacity for the Athletics hasn't been set yet, however it certainly won't be 77,500.

They will need to build a temporary structure to raise the field. The budget will blow out, however more importantly (as far as THe InTeRnAtiOnAL PerF rED OLyMpiC StAnDaRds is concerned) the capacity will be significantly reduced. Nothing has been set in stone yet, but they are expecting 14+ rows of seats to be lost.

If you look at most LA Olympics forums many people with knowledge of that stadium are thinking that the capacity will be about 50K after the temporary structure is dumped in like a Perth Red toupee, and spectator seats are stripped for media.

www.latimes.com

LA28 plans ambitious Coliseum makeover, building a track on top of the existing field

LA28 is planning to build a false floor 11 feet above the Coliseum field — covering the first 14 rows of seats — to create an official Olympic track.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com
 
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For lack of a better thread, it's been very interesting to see Sydney embrace Sydney Metro this week. It appears to have very strong support from the public and the media, as well as bipartisan political support (at least the new and under construction lines).

I think it opens up a great question with the still under construction Sydney Metro West project. From 2032, it will revolutionise travel to/from Sydney Olympic Park, and make Stadium Australia a far more connected and accessible stadium for the general public to visit.

By then, Stadium Australia will be approaching 40 years old (the Sydney Football Stadium 1.0 was 30 when it was retired). Will Sydney Metro West be the catalyst for a refurbishment of Stadium Australia?
 
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Sky_Is_The_Limit said:
For lack of a better thread, it's been very interesting to see Sydney embrace Sydney Metro this week. It appears to have very strong support from the public and the media, as well as bipartisan political support (at least the new and under construction lines).

I think it opens up a great question with the still under construction Sydney Metro West project. From 2032, it will revolutionise travel to/from Sydney Olympic Park, and make Stadium Australia a far more connected and accessible stadium for the general public to visit.

By then, Stadium Australia will be approaching 40 years old (the Sydney Football Stadium 1.0 was 30 when it was retired). Will Sydney Metro West be the catalyst for a refurbishment of Stadium Australia?
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I though Stadium Australia was being rebuilt? What did I miss lol.
 
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Sky_Is_The_Limit said:
For lack of a better thread, it's been very interesting to see Sydney embrace Sydney Metro this week. It appears to have very strong support from the public and the media, as well as bipartisan political support (at least the new and under construction lines).

I think it opens up a great question with the still under construction Sydney Metro West project. From 2032, it will revolutionise travel to/from Sydney Olympic Park, and make Stadium Australia a far more connected and accessible stadium for the general public to visit.

By then, Stadium Australia will be approaching 40 years old (the Sydney Football Stadium 1.0 was 30 when it was retired). Will Sydney Metro West be the catalyst for a refurbishment of Stadium Australia?
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It would be nice if a Government was forward thinking enough to try & align it all.

With work on Stage 2 of the Parramatta Light Rail also starting this year, there is a lot of investment going into getting people in & out of the Olympic Park precinct every day, be a shame if the facilities there aren't updated.
 
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Sky_Is_The_Limit said:
For lack of a better thread, it's been very interesting to see Sydney embrace Sydney Metro this week. It appears to have very strong support from the public and the media, as well as bipartisan political support (at least the new and under construction lines).

I think it opens up a great question with the still under construction Sydney Metro West project. From 2032, it will revolutionise travel to/from Sydney Olympic Park, and make Stadium Australia a far more connected and accessible stadium for the general public to visit.

By then, Stadium Australia will be approaching 40 years old (the Sydney Football Stadium 1.0 was 30 when it was retired). Will Sydney Metro West be the catalyst for a refurbishment of Stadium Australia?
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Hopefully Sydney isnt going for another Olympics or Homebush might get turned into a bigger white elephant oval
 
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Heard on the radio that the Queensland government are confirming their stance on not building a new stadium. New reason mentioned is because of the ioc requirement to have a warm up athletics track nearby. Which is not possible with a Victoria park location apparently.
 
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