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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Red&BlackBear

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whats ya gut feel with how it'll play out? is one of the feasbilities reports something you helped work on?

how long ya reckon design and construction will takes?

Only 6 years to go, that'll go quick. 6 years ago panthers hadnt started their run, nek minnit they won a shitload. time flies.
Gut feel is that it’ll be designed & constructed with a set budget made up of a mash-up combination of a couple different feasibility reports that were requested by the QLD State Gov team leading the charge here (in conjunction with Stadiums Queensland).

Design could take between 18 months to 30 months to get it right and then finally approved. The aim will be 20 months.

Construction could take between 9 months and 20 months to complete based on what the final design intent and complexities are. The aim will be 14-16 months.

I need to stress that there is a considerable amount of water to pass under the bridge yet.

There is also some slow moving pieces within this puzzle. SQ aren’t as proactive with finalising design details as they should be. At times SQ can butt-heads with architects and other consultants over trivial things that can hold up a project from a program perspective. Interesting times.
 
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MCG to get 2 billion makeover and we are begging for a few hundred mill for Suncorp , nothing for Accor, delay on hbf park, nothing for Canberra, gong, Newcastle or brookvale

Nrl is so far behind in terms of getting stadium upgrades it’s a joke. Probably behind soccer

Thing is, of all state governments, Victoria is the one with the worst economic and budgetary positions in the country. How they could afford the outlay for that proposal is a bit of a mystery to me.
 

Wb1234

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Thing is, of all state governments, Victoria is the one with the worst economic and budgetary positions in the country. How they could afford the outlay for that proposal is a bit of a mystery to me.
Probably some private funding in there or the mcg is paying some of it themselves as there’s a proposed hotel in that budget
 

steeden.

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It's just a sneaky plan to try and steal the Grand Final from Sydney
😉
It’ll surely make the NSW Government pony up more cash to keep it - although I can’t see the NRL ever leaving Sydney unless there is some truely exceptional reason (like Homebush being rebuilt)

a long-term magic round contract for Brisbane would be likely though?
 

Wb1234

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MCG to get 2 billion makeover and we are begging for a few hundred mill for Suncorp , nothing for Accor, delay on hbf park, nothing for Canberra, gong, Newcastle or brookvale

Nrl is so far behind in terms of getting stadium upgrades it’s a joke. Probably behind soccer


The Herald Sun can exclusively reveal details of the business case and early concept images.
For the first time, fans would be able to gather with friends in 2000-seat pub-style eateries for pre-game meals and drinks inside the rebuilt southern side of the stadium.
It is expected the new dining hubs would help significantly improve the fan experience along with major upgrades to public amenities, rooftop lighting, seating, digital technology, accessibility and pedestrian flow at the home of footy.
The rebuilt stand would have a deeper footprint to create new social dining areas, ease congestion and bring the thoroughfares in-line with the more expansive passageways in the northern section of the venue.
In another major change, the new Shane Warne Stand would provide spectacular 180 degree-views over the south-eastern part of the city overlooking Yarra Park.
Early concept designs show a stunning glass exterior which would replace the current concrete walls.
There is also scope for open-air decks and a major outward-facing tourism offering to capitalise on the elevated aspect.
A new roof could also cover more seating, pending final designs.
The major infrastructure project would take between two and three years to complete and boost the venue’s capacity by 5000 to about 105,000.
That would put the MCG back in the top 10 biggest stadiums in the world, up from 11th to 5th.
The vision is detailed in a $15m business case which is jointly-funded by the Melbourne Cricket Club and Victorian Government.
The option of building a new hotel at the back of the stand is being strongly considered.
One concept image obtained by the Herald Sun also shows a large grassed open space and walkways over the train tracks south of the stadium.

Such a huge redevelopment to link the MCG to Melbourne Park is not part of the proposed $2bn stadium project and would require a significant amount more.
But it is expected to be a key consideration as part of a separate review of the broader precinct, which would also investigate improved links to Richmond station.
And given the new stand’s deeper footprint and wider planned concourse, stadium architects will probe how much their development would need to hang over Brunton Avenue and some rail lines.
If approved, the new stand’s construction would be completed in stages and not start until after 2030.
The phased works would ensure the venue could maintain the 70,000-seat minimum capacity required to keep AFL grand finals in Melbourne.
The MCC would likely be required to contribute a significant slice of the bill in conjunction with the Victorian and Federal governments as well as the AFL and Cricket Australia.
The MCC, which has more than 160,000 fee-paying members and a 20-year waiting list, may consider a loan (like it did on the northern stand) to help jointly fund the Shane Warne Stand rebuild.
But the State Government could be required to chip in more than $1bn, making it one of Victoria’s next biggest construction spends.
The stadium has a busy schedule over the coming years, including a multi-year NFL deal, Boxing Day and 150-year anniversary day/night test, potential rugby and cricket world cup tournaments and blockbuster concerts including rock legends AC/DC next month.
The venue has attracted some of the globe’s top acts in recent years including sold-out shows for pop sensations Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran, as well as EPL and international soccer friendlies, the British and Irish Lions tour and cricket world cup finals.
And the NFL deal which will see the LA Rams play in early September next year is expected to fuel further interest from the US market on top of the strong existing ties to India and the UK.
But a major feasibility study conducted over the past four years has recommended the southernstand – which was constructed in 1992 and renamed the Shane Warne Stand after the cricket legend’s death in 2022 – should be knocked down and rebuilt.
Due to its narrow thoroughfares, queues to food and beverage outlets and the bathrooms can become entangled at major events, with severe congestion around the inner concourse.
Space for communal dining is also largely limited to takeaway food outlets, while there is restricted wheelchair access on level four.

Under the new vision, AFL tenant clubs would have access to new and improved function rooms and other amenities to help service membership and hospitality packages on all levels.
There would also be consideration given to moving the champion leg spinner’s popular statue from gate two to a new position as part of a grand entrance inside the stand named after him.
Parkland could incorporate improved lighting for safety and security, celebrate Indigenous culture and storytelling, as well as an avenue of honour for sporting greats, subject to necessary approvals.
MCC chief executive Stuart Fox said it was time to outline a vision for the Shane Warne Stand which maintained the MCG’s reputation as “one of the world’s greatest and most fan-friendly venues”.
“We are thrilled the Victorian Government has chosen to partner with the MCC, in conjunction with the MCG Trust, on this important project,” Mr Fox said.
“It is an incredibly exciting piece of work which will explore what the Shane Warne Stand could look like, what it will include, how we would build it, how much it will cost and how it will be funded.
“It will be benchmarked against the greatest stadiums in the world and many years of work have already gone into what the best sporting experience looks and feels like for fans.”
Recently, major investment has been made to construct first-class venues in Adelaide and Perth, while the AFL is pushing ahead with plans to build a new home for the new AFL team in Tasmania.

Brisbane will also build a 63,000-seat state-of-the-art stadium for the 2032 Olympics, costing an estimated $3.8bn.
It means the MCG’s Shane Warne Stand in particular – which would be almost 40 years old by the time construction works would begin – is at risk of becoming outdated.
But new technology and design initiatives from some of the globe’s premier sporting venues including SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in north London are on the MCG’s radar.
Sport minister Steve Dimopoulos said the MCG hosted 69 major events last year, attracting more than four million visitors including 623,000 from outside Victoria and powering 7500 full-time jobs.
“The MCG is one of Victoria’s most iconic landmarks and we want to keep it that way,” Mr Dimopoulos said.
“We know how much this ground means to Victorians which is why we want to make sure it remains the best stadium in the world for generations to come. This business case will help us plan the MCG and Victoria’s future to continue to support the very best events, and Victorian jobs.”
AFL chief executive Andrew Dillon said the MCG was “one of the most iconic stadiums in the world”.
“The AFL strongly supports any initiatives that ensure this landmark venue continues to deliver the best and most innovative experience for our fans, players, and clubs into the future,” Mr Dillon said.
Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg said the sport strongly supported the business case and any further initiatives “to ensure the MCG maintains its place as one of the world’s great cricket stadiums”.
“Providing brilliant experiences for fans is a key part of our strategy and we want them to enjoy the best possible contemporary facilities in stadiums across Australia,” Greenberg said.
 

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colly

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MCG to get 2 billion makeover and we are begging for a few hundred mill for Suncorp , nothing for Accor, delay on hbf park, nothing for Canberra, gong, Newcastle or brookvale

Nrl is so far behind in terms of getting stadium upgrades it’s a joke. Probably behind soccer
The MCG is NOT happening. That would ONLy go ahead if the Federal Government (moneybags) paid for most of it, and that ain't happening> So the Suncorp can go ahead with state government funding only, NSW Government has Funded two stadiums , Comm bank and Alliance with a combined 1.3 billion outlay without Federal funding unlike the Townsville stadium where by large part was Federal Funded. Sure go ahead and I say do it, it would be good for Brisbane but get the Governments local and state to fund it!
 

Jonno

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Perth, Brisbane, Melbourne all building big new stadiums. Sydney…. Crickets

ok we did get Allianz and CommBank but still, Accor is the big one
crickets?
lets look at the last 20 years of Stadium construction,
Brisbane -Zero but with plans to build another oval Stadium
Melbourne- $270 million for AAMI Park
$450 million for MCG Northern Stand
Adelaide -$500 million for an oval.
Perth - $1.6 Billion for Optus ,but includes Train station and infrastructure around the venue.Stadium construction estimated around $1 Billion.
Around $75 million also for HBF.
Sydney - $1.8 Billion for 3 new Rugby League Stadiums plus SCG Grandstands.
Commbank $360 million
Allianz $828 million
Penrith -Under construction.$300 million
SCG- Trumper and Bradman Stands -$300 million

Covid killed off the Accor plans and we agree its time to do something In the 5 years.

It certainly not crickets.
 
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parrawentyfan

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The Herald Sun can exclusively reveal details of the business case and early concept images.
For the first time, fans would be able to gather with friends in 2000-seat pub-style eateries for pre-game meals and drinks inside the rebuilt southern side of the stadium.
It is expected the new dining hubs would help significantly improve the fan experience along with major upgrades to public amenities, rooftop lighting, seating, digital technology, accessibility and pedestrian flow at the home of footy.
The rebuilt stand would have a deeper footprint to create new social dining areas, ease congestion and bring the thoroughfares in-line with the more expansive passageways in the northern section of the venue.
In another major change, the new Shane Warne Stand would provide spectacular 180 degree-views over the south-eastern part of the city overlooking Yarra Park.
Early concept designs show a stunning glass exterior which would replace the current concrete walls.
There is also scope for open-air decks and a major outward-facing tourism offering to capitalise on the elevated aspect.
A new roof could also cover more seating, pending final designs.
The major infrastructure project would take between two and three years to complete and boost the venue’s capacity by 5000 to about 105,000.
That would put the MCG back in the top 10 biggest stadiums in the world, up from 11th to 5th.
The vision is detailed in a $15m business case which is jointly-funded by the Melbourne Cricket Club and Victorian Government.
The option of building a new hotel at the back of the stand is being strongly considered.
One concept image obtained by the Herald Sun also shows a large grassed open space and walkways over the train tracks south of the stadium.

Such a huge redevelopment to link the MCG to Melbourne Park is not part of the proposed $2bn stadium project and would require a significant amount more.
But it is expected to be a key consideration as part of a separate review of the broader precinct, which would also investigate improved links to Richmond station.
And given the new stand’s deeper footprint and wider planned concourse, stadium architects will probe how much their development would need to hang over Brunton Avenue and some rail lines.
If approved, the new stand’s construction would be completed in stages and not start until after 2030.
The phased works would ensure the venue could maintain the 70,000-seat minimum capacity required to keep AFL grand finals in Melbourne.
The MCC would likely be required to contribute a significant slice of the bill in conjunction with the Victorian and Federal governments as well as the AFL and Cricket Australia.
The MCC, which has more than 160,000 fee-paying members and a 20-year waiting list, may consider a loan (like it did on the northern stand) to help jointly fund the Shane Warne Stand rebuild.
But the State Government could be required to chip in more than $1bn, making it one of Victoria’s next biggest construction spends.
The stadium has a busy schedule over the coming years, including a multi-year NFL deal, Boxing Day and 150-year anniversary day/night test, potential rugby and cricket world cup tournaments and blockbuster concerts including rock legends AC/DC next month.
The venue has attracted some of the globe’s top acts in recent years including sold-out shows for pop sensations Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran, as well as EPL and international soccer friendlies, the British and Irish Lions tour and cricket world cup finals.
And the NFL deal which will see the LA Rams play in early September next year is expected to fuel further interest from the US market on top of the strong existing ties to India and the UK.
But a major feasibility study conducted over the past four years has recommended the southernstand – which was constructed in 1992 and renamed the Shane Warne Stand after the cricket legend’s death in 2022 – should be knocked down and rebuilt.
Due to its narrow thoroughfares, queues to food and beverage outlets and the bathrooms can become entangled at major events, with severe congestion around the inner concourse.
Space for communal dining is also largely limited to takeaway food outlets, while there is restricted wheelchair access on level four.

Under the new vision, AFL tenant clubs would have access to new and improved function rooms and other amenities to help service membership and hospitality packages on all levels.
There would also be consideration given to moving the champion leg spinner’s popular statue from gate two to a new position as part of a grand entrance inside the stand named after him.
Parkland could incorporate improved lighting for safety and security, celebrate Indigenous culture and storytelling, as well as an avenue of honour for sporting greats, subject to necessary approvals.
MCC chief executive Stuart Fox said it was time to outline a vision for the Shane Warne Stand which maintained the MCG’s reputation as “one of the world’s greatest and most fan-friendly venues”.
“We are thrilled the Victorian Government has chosen to partner with the MCC, in conjunction with the MCG Trust, on this important project,” Mr Fox said.
“It is an incredibly exciting piece of work which will explore what the Shane Warne Stand could look like, what it will include, how we would build it, how much it will cost and how it will be funded.
“It will be benchmarked against the greatest stadiums in the world and many years of work have already gone into what the best sporting experience looks and feels like for fans.”
Recently, major investment has been made to construct first-class venues in Adelaide and Perth, while the AFL is pushing ahead with plans to build a new home for the new AFL team in Tasmania.

Brisbane will also build a 63,000-seat state-of-the-art stadium for the 2032 Olympics, costing an estimated $3.8bn.
It means the MCG’s Shane Warne Stand in particular – which would be almost 40 years old by the time construction works would begin – is at risk of becoming outdated.
But new technology and design initiatives from some of the globe’s premier sporting venues including SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in north London are on the MCG’s radar.
Sport minister Steve Dimopoulos said the MCG hosted 69 major events last year, attracting more than four million visitors including 623,000 from outside Victoria and powering 7500 full-time jobs.
“The MCG is one of Victoria’s most iconic landmarks and we want to keep it that way,” Mr Dimopoulos said.
“We know how much this ground means to Victorians which is why we want to make sure it remains the best stadium in the world for generations to come. This business case will help us plan the MCG and Victoria’s future to continue to support the very best events, and Victorian jobs.”
AFL chief executive Andrew Dillon said the MCG was “one of the most iconic stadiums in the world”.
“The AFL strongly supports any initiatives that ensure this landmark venue continues to deliver the best and most innovative experience for our fans, players, and clubs into the future,” Mr Dillon said.
Cricket Australia chief executive Todd Greenberg said the sport strongly supported the business case and any further initiatives “to ensure the MCG maintains its place as one of the world’s great cricket stadiums”.
“Providing brilliant experiences for fans is a key part of our strategy and we want them to enjoy the best possible contemporary facilities in stadiums across Australia,” Greenberg said.

Maybe we should chip in $10 million or so and get the design compromised so it can be more suitable for rectangular sports… then refuse to use it.
 

Dogs Of War

Coach
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crickets?
lets look at the last 20 years of Stadium construction,
Brisbane -Zero but with plans to build another oval Stadium
Melbourne- $270 million for AAMI Park
$450 million for MCG Northern Stand
Adelaide -$500 million for an oval.
Perth - $1.6 Billion for Optus ,but includes Train station and infrastructure around the venue.Stadium construction estimated around $1 Billion.
Around $75 million also for HBF.
Sydney - $1.8 Billion for 3 new Rugby League Stadiums plus SCG Grandstands.
Commbank $360 million
Allianz $828 million
Penrith -Under construction.$300 million
SCG- Trumper and Bradman Stands -$300 million

Covid killed off the Accor plans and we agree its time to do something In the 5 years.

It certainly not crickets.

Brisbane got Kayo Stadium at Redcliffe for 10k which is great for what it is.

I would like to see the premier stadium in NSW which is nearly 30yrs old, get a program put in place to get it up to standard.
 

Dogs Of War

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The Victorian government said that any work on the MCG would not be before 2030, and only if commercially viable.

Honestly the MCG should be in perpertual upgrades anyway. It is well used, and ticks a lot of boxes that way.

It's how more of the NSW stadiums should be planned. Maybe that's something they can think about for Stadium Australia to ensure whatever they choose to go forward with can be upgraded over a 100yr period with sections being out of action for a season or so as better facilties become common.
 

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