The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[siv]

Should upgrade Seiffort Oval

 

[Captain Apollo]

Wyong Leagues club is miles away, I think you might mean Central Coast Leagues Club which is across the road

Oops. You are correct. My bad

 

[beave]

got tickets today for Rd1 in Tvl on the 40m line on the eastern, cannot wait!!!!!.

Some of the recent pics coming out of the stadium are sensational.

 

[Quidgybo]

Down at the Gong the best option is get rid of the southern stand and biuld a far superior one which would increase the capacity, they could not possibly put anything on the eastern side as it backs onto the beach.

Do thousands of extra people really want to sit behind the goal posts on a regular basis?

Probably not but it seems that it would be the most practical solution of increasing capacity with the current configuration of the grounds.

If it’s that hard to add any significant capacity and that hard to upgrade the facilities with the best view, it’s time to look for a new location (preferably within easy walk of heavy rail). Unless there was a masterplan in place that ultimately allowed for a proper stand on the eastern side, then spending money building the big new western stand seems a poor choice IMHO. Build the new western stand on a clean site with enough room for future growth, move the seats recycled from the Olympic swimming centre, and put a hill around the rest. Then add an eastern stand when it’s needed, no obstacles. Hills are cheap, both to build and to replace when you’re ready for something better.

Leigh.

 

[siv]

Noticed AFL offering $27 and $5 tickets

Is this for all parts of the ground ?

 

[Greenstar5]

A stadium in the City for Canberra is a no brainer. I don't get the idea of placing it out at EPIC. It just becomes another Bruce.

Civic is the most central location of the Canberra metro area.

Imagine a Bankwest style Stadium at the site of the Canberra pool in the city. Build over Parkes Way (it becomes underground of sorts) opening up Commonwealth Park to the city.

In the city allows to to access the most amount of hotels and all the new apartments being build. Next to that location in the national convention centre, casino and the Canberra Centre (Westfields). The food and bar areas of City North and Braddon arnt far to walk to.

Pently of transport options, currently the Light Rail runs from Gungahlin to the City, the next stage to be build will continue from The city south towards Woden. Most of the bus network runs towards and through various parts of the city centre. As well as Queanbeyan buses.

It's not about just having a football game. It's about creating an event regardless of what's on at the stadium. Adelaide Oval is the perfect example of this.

Imagine its Sunday arvo. Raiders vs Souths big game. People come down from Sydney, eat food, drink beers, visit places like the War memorial and see a game of footy. Would be great for the local economy and improving the vibe in the City.

 

[Marlins]

A stadium in the City for Canberra is a no brainer. I don't get the idea of placing it out at EPIC. It just becomes another Bruce.

Civic is the most central location of the Canberra metro area.

Imagine a Bankwest style Stadium at the site of the Canberra pool in the city. Build over Parkes Way (it becomes underground of sorts) opening up Commonwealth Park to the city.

In the city allows to to access the most amount of hotels and all the new apartments being build. Next to that location in the national convention centre, casino and the Canberra Centre (Westfields). The food and bar areas of City North and Braddon arnt far to walk to.

Pently of transport options, currently the Light Rail runs from Gungahlin to the City, the next stage to be build will continue from The city south towards Woden. Most of the bus network runs towards and through various parts of the city centre. As well as Queanbeyan buses.

It's not about just having a football game. It's about creating an event regardless of what's on at the stadium. Adelaide Oval is the perfect example of this.

Imagine its Sunday arvo. Raiders vs Souths big game. People come down from Sydney, eat food, drink beers, visit places like the War memorial and see a game of footy. Would be great for the local economy and improving the vibe in the City.

Sounds great but we all know they’ll build a brand new afl stadium in the city and put the other one out in the sticks

 

[t-ba]

Love that the AFL shill Andrew Barr referred to the Brumbies as competing in the Super League lol.

Almost as good as Bob Carr wishing the Blues luck against Victoria.

 

[horrie hastings]

If it’s that hard to add any significant capacity and that hard to upgrade the facilities with the best view, it’s time to look for a new location (preferably within easy walk of heavy rail). Unless there was a masterplan in place that ultimately allowed for a proper stand on the eastern side, then spending money building the big new western stand seems a poor choice IMHO. Build the new western stand on a clean site with enough room for future growth, move the seats recycled from the Olympic swimming centre, and put a hill around the rest. Then add an eastern stand when it’s needed, no obstacles. Hills are cheap, both to build and to replace when you’re ready for something better.

Leigh.

The Western Stand is only fairly recent addition , I think it was finished in 2012 so it doesn't need rebuilding , the original plans for the Western Stand was to have a 4 star hotel attached to it but that was shelved in the end for a larger capacity seating wise stand. It is the southern end that does have the capacity for expansion, the grand stand there is like an old dinosaur, looks good but could easily make way for something with increased capacity. I just think the logistics of building a high quality stand along the eastern side with the dune and beach right there would be almost impossible ( I could be wrong though ) .
There have been a few spots suggested as an alternative site for the Staduim, J J Kelly Park which is a bit further south and Thomas Dalton park at Fairy Meadow, Kembla Grange and Shellharbour Park stadium at Albion Park .

 

[Last Week]

Imagine its Sunday arvo. Raiders vs Souths big game. People come down from Sydney, eat food, drink beers, visit places like the War memorial and see a game of footy. Would be great for the local economy and improving the vibe in the City.

Or an ANZAC day match.

Raiders vs Tigers.

 

[Saint Doc]

This is going to be an EPIC failure for Canberra. The feasibility study is predetermined- they will use metrics that mean EPIC is the site chosen. It will be a death knell for the Raiders.
For those unfamiliar, Canberra City (“Civic”) is in the rectangle. It sits on the north side of the lake. There is a huge population to the south of the lake.

the current stadium is in Bruce, the circle to the left of the map. It’s in an inconvenient position.
But check out where Epic is. The circle top right. Past it is essentially just the highway to Sydney. It’s on the absolute northern outskirts, on a highway, with no surrounding life.

this is a horrendous development for Canberra.

 

[Perth Red]

Canberra would have to be the weirdest laid out city I’ve been to, with the exception of Milton Keynes maybe.

 

[Saint Doc]

Canberra would have to be the weirdest laid out city I’ve been to, with the exception of Milton Keynes maybe.

Not a fan of symmetry?!

 

[seanoff]

This is going to be an EPIC failure for Canberra. The feasibility study is predetermined- they will use metrics that mean EPIC is the site chosen. It will be a death knell for the Raiders.
For those unfamiliar, Canberra City (“Civic”) is in the rectangle. It sits on the north side of the lake. There is a huge population to the south of the lake.

the current stadium is in Bruce, the circle to the left of the map. It’s in an inconvenient position.
But check out where Epic is. The circle top right. Past it is essentially just the highway to Sydney. It’s on the absolute northern outskirts, on a highway, with no surrounding life.

this is a horrendous development for Canberra.

But it is on the tram line!!!!!

the best option is to drain that toxic lake and build it in there.

 

[The Great Dane]

This is going to be an EPIC failure for Canberra. The feasibility study is predetermined- they will use metrics that mean EPIC is the site chosen. It will be a death knell for the Raiders.
For those unfamiliar, Canberra City (“Civic”) is in the rectangle. It sits on the north side of the lake. There is a huge population to the south of the lake.

the current stadium is in Bruce, the circle to the left of the map. It’s in an inconvenient position.
But check out where Epic is. The circle top right. Past it is essentially just the highway to Sydney. It’s on the absolute northern outskirts, on a highway, with no surrounding life.

this is a horrendous development for Canberra.

Yeah after the initial novelty period wears off a stadium at EPIC would hit the Raiders crowds hard.

You'd genuinely be looking at averaging sub-10k crowds on Thursdays and Fridays, and weekends would take a big hit as well.

At least with a rectangular stadium at EPIC they'd still have somewhere to play though. If Barr gets what he really wants then the new stadium will be a 'multipurpose' and Bruce will have been knocked down. If that happens, then if the club has any brains, the Raiders are looking at relocating...

 

[The Great Dane]

Or an ANZAC day match.

Raiders vs Tigers.

That would mean having an ANZAC day game that actually has anything to do with honouring the ANZACs, we can't have that in the NRL when we've got a 'tradition' that was created in 2002 to uphold!

 

[Perth Red]

Not a fan of symmetry?!

not a fan of massive distances between places and crossing ring roads to get anywhere on foot lol it feels more like a series of connected small towns than one city which is strange given it’s small population.

 

[The Great Dane]

not a fan of massive distances between places and crossing ring roads to get anywhere on foot lol it feels more like a series of connected small towns than one city which is strange given it’s small population.

That's pretty much what it's meant to be though...

It was designed to be a bunch of satellite city centres connected by road and train, they built the satellites but didn't bother with the train, so what you end up with is a disjointed collection of city centres that you need a car to travel between connected by swaths of suburbia and bush.

If you live here it's great, you get all the positives of living in a big city and most of the positives of living in a smaller town in one place, but if you are traveling here and you don't have a car then you are f**ked, because it makes it almost impossible to get around and the public transport is not only inadequate for the city, but it's got to be one of the worst run in the country.

 

[Perth Red]

That's pretty much what it's meant to be though...

It was designed to be a bunch of satellite city centres connected by road and train, they built the satellites but didn't bother with the train, so what you end up with is a disjointed collection of city centres that you need a car to travel between connected by swaths of suburbia and bush.

If you live here it's great, you get all the positives of living in a big city and most of the positives of living in a smaller town in one place, but if you are traveling here and you don't have a car then you are f**ked, because it makes it almost impossible to get around and the public transport is not only inadequate for the city, but it's got to be one of the worst run in the country.

that makes sense then , yeh as a visitor made sense to me lol.cost me a fortune in taxis!

 

[Foreign Legion]

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The NRL is returning to North Sydney Oval.

The Sun-Herald can reveal the iconic ground will play host to the round 16 Roosters-Warriors clash on July 4, marking the return of first-grade football to the ground after a 15-year hiatus.

Bears legend Greg Florimo after a match at North Sydney Oval.CREDIT:GETTY

The venue was the long-time home of North Sydney Bears and the foundation club will mark the occasion by featuring in the lead-up women’s Harvey Norman Premiership and men’s Canterbury Cup matches.

The Roosters have been displaced since Allianz Stadium was knocked down for reconstruction, prompting them to play the majority of their home games at the neighbouring Sydney Cricket Ground. When the NRL draw was initially released, the venue for their Warriors encounter was marked "TBA" until a suitable destination could be locked in.

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While most pundits expected the game to be played at Central Coast Stadium - the premiers are hosting Manly in Gosford in round two - the game will instead make a return to one of its historic suburban grounds. The final details are being locked in and an official announcement is imminent.

It will be the first NRL game at North Sydney Oval since May 1, 2005, when the Warriors earned a 34-16 away win against South Sydney. The unexpected NRL return match will again feature the Warriors and bring top-flight football back to a ground that many pundits believed wouldn’t see it again.

Andrew Johns playing against the Bears at North Sydney Oval during the 1990s.CREDIT:SIMON ALEKNA

The Roosters’ decision to return to North Sydney is an indication the NRL powerhouse respects the tradition and history of its feeder team.

All three matches on the day - the 3pm women’s clash between the Bears and Brothers, the 5pm Bears reserve-grade encounter against the Warriors and the NRL blockbuster - will all be shown live on Fox Sports.

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The return to North Sydney’s spiritual home will allow the Roosters’ reserves to run onto the same ground and in the same jerseys as those worn by legendary Bears including Ken Irvine, Harold Holder, Greg Florimo, Billy Moore, Jason Taylor, Gary Larson and Mark Graham.

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While the state government has invested $2 billion in redeveloping three big venues - Allianz, ANZ and Bankwest - there still remains a role for boutique grounds in the NRL. Canterbury has taken some of its games back to Belmore Oval, Leichhardt Oval remains one of Wests Tigers’ three homes, while Brookvale, Kogarah and Shark Park remain as a home base for NRL teams despite being in various stages of disrepair.

ARLC chairman Peter V’Landys nominated the upgrading of suburban grounds among his key objectives upon taking up the post.

"Everyone knows my love for tribalism and suburban grounds," V’landys said last October.

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"We want suburban grounds and we want to have the must-haves ... all the things customers want. We will be looking very hard at suburban grounds and how do we fund suburban grounds."

The move to North Sydney Oval will also strengthen the claims of the Central Coast Bears in their bid to return to the NRL. The governing body has yet to make a call on the long-term footprint of the game, but the Bears haven’t given up hope of playing some part in an expanded competition.
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