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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Timbo

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Was always going to happen. I assume they’ll look at selling two games a year to regional areas for profit?
 

Vee

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Article on nrl.com about the new $25M rectangular stadium in NT opening April 2019. Pretty sure that's been mentioned on here but it's in the wrong place or something, can someone remind me?
 

beave

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Article on nrl.com about the new $25M rectangular stadium in NT opening April 2019. Pretty sure that's been mentioned on here but it's in the wrong place or something, can someone remind me?

It’s for local teams, not big enough for NRL games so they’ll have to continue playing them at TIO........ ridiculous. From memory the pics showed 3-4 ground close together so it’s a complex of sorts.
 

Dakink

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It’s for local teams, not big enough for NRL games so they’ll have to continue playing them at TIO........ ridiculous. From memory the pics showed 3-4 ground close together so it’s a complex of sorts.
Its at MArrara which is where the NT hosts all its major sports.

Im heading that way later so Ill take some pics.
 

beave

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So the main field is the one on the left. I just don’t see how the place could hold 10-12k if the main grandstand only holds 1500 people. The eastern hill has temporary tiered seating, it looks like it might hold 1500-2000 people on that whole side. IMO the whole joint might hold 8k if they cram people in at tje ends. That eastern side needs some more space between the main field and the next one so that a hill could have been used behind the temp seating.

Its great the NT gov are doing this but it looks pretty half assed from the pics and articles.
 

Card Shark

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On-site works at the Sydney Football Stadium have commenced by 31 December 2018 and the Government progresses on-site works with a view to the new stadium being open for use for 2021 NRL Finals Series matches”.

What if the Queensland teams get their act together & there are no Sydney teams that require to use the stadium for finals.

Would be a bit funny....
 

El Diablo

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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...t/news-story/e475f97321ce482bb93c190f72158593

Business case warns of NRL grand final risk if stadium not rebuilt

The business cases to rebuild two Sydney stadiums warned that the city risked losing the NRL grand final every third year, as well as other major events, if a full knockdown and rebuild of ANZ at Sydney Olympic Park did not occur.

The Australian can reveal the strategic business case presented to Premier Gladys Berejiklian for the knockdown and rebuild of the Sydney Olympic stadium warned that a simple rebuild of the stadium’s lower levels, which Ms Berejiklian ended up announcing, breached the memorandum of understanding the government had with the National Rugby League.

Despite this, she convinced members of her cabinet, who were never shown the business case, to proceed with a scaled-down $810 million redevelopment of ANZ Stadium while pressing ahead with a knockdown and rebuild of the 45,000-seat Allianz Stadium in Sydney’s east.

Ms Berejiklian made the announcement in April, saying she was saving taxpayers $500m after months of flak over her original $2 billion proposed knockdowns and rebuilds.

The benefit-cost ratio for the ANZ Stadium rebuild proposal of 0.81 (with 1 equalling a positive) was less than the original proposal for a $1.3bn knockdown and rebuild, which had a BCR of 0.91. The $730m Allianz Stadium had a BCR of 0.94.

The BCR was calculated on the basis the NRL grand final would be lost to Sydney every third year without an ANZ Stadium rebuild.

The BCR for Allianz Stadium was lifted by an assumption that fewer games would be played there in the absence of an upgrade. Business case authors KPMG cited “poor and declining facilities and inferior yield for the hirer”.

The “base case” for Allianz Stadium at Moore Park was that it would host two NRL finals games a year (down from four last year) and 10 NRL games a year (down from 12). It assumed no Wallabies Tests, despite two games having been held there in 2017. The business case also arrives at its BCR on the basis of a 15 per cent increase in spectators travelling to the grounds as a result of a knockdown and rebuild.

The business cases were released to the upper house on Friday after it threatened to suspend government upper house leader Don Harwin. The Australian revealed earlier this year that cabinet members were never shown the business cases before they were asked to sign off on Ms Berejiklian’s decision on the stadiums.

“Option 1 (a refurbishment of the lower levels of ANZ Stadium) is considered to be slightly weaker in attracting a number of events and does not meet the requirements of the MOU between the NSW government and (Australian Rugby League Commission),” the ANZ business case said. “The key economic implication of this point is … events will no longer be hosted within NSW and will be lost to interstate venues.”

The Allianz Stadium business case said the stadium would have to be closed if urgent works were not undertaken, in contrast to evidence given to the parliamentary inquiry by Infrastructure NSW director David Riches on Friday that the stadium still met legal requirements. The business case said NRL matches could be moved from Brookvale and Leichhardt ovals to a new Allianz or Sydney Football Stadium.

Opposition sports spokeswoman Lynda Voltz said the business case had “some generous assumptions for Allianz Stadium … One can only assume this was intended to drive up attendance figures … to rebuild and inflate the BCR. Given the BCR still comes in at less than one, the taxpayers of NSW look to be getting a pretty rough deal.” The Premier’s office declined to comment.
 

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https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...per-events-at-moore-park-20180611-p4zkt9.html

Stadiums business cases: second best at ANZ and bumper events at Moore Park


The state government’s planned $810 million refurbishment of ANZ Stadium at Olympic Park would deliver fewer “blockbuster” events than a completely new stadium and would not result in the same increase in fan attendance, the government’s business case for the project says.

And the business case for a new stadium at Moore Park assumes that it draws more NRL fixtures from suburban grounds in Sydney.

The Berejiklian government was last week forced to release the full business cases for its controversial scheme of building a new 40-45,000 seat stadium at Moore Park for $730 million and refurbishing ANZ Stadium at Olympic Park into a permanently rectangular 70,000 seat stadium for $810 million.

That policy, however, represented a back-down on Premier Gladys Berejiklian’s prior position of wanting to build a completely new stadium to replace ANZ at Olympic Park, at a cost of $1.3 billion.

The business case for the project shows why the government first wanted to build a new stadium, committing to a smaller rebuild after public outcry about the cost of its overall policy.

According to the business case prepared by KPMG, a redeveloped ANZ Stadium would not meet the requirements of the Australian Rugby League Commission agreed in a memorandum of understanding with the NSW government, which meant there will be a “decrease in both the number and frequency” of blockbuster events hosted at ANZ Stadium. For instance, KPMG assumed one in every three NRL grand finals would be sold interstate.

The NRL has since committed to playing the grand final in Sydney for the next 25 years, while a subsequent internal government review found the assumption that Sydney would lose major events if it only redeveloped ANZ was too conservative.
Nevertheless KPMG assumed that redeveloping ANZ – as the government proposes to do – would likely lead to only a 10 per cent average increase in attendance. In contrast, building a completely new stadium would likely have led to a 15 per cent increase in attendance.

The assumptions about attendance increases came despite attendance at sporting events declining in recent years.

The business case for a new Moore Park stadium also assumes an average 15 per cent increase in attendance. And it relies on an assumed increase in the number of international and domestic fixtures.

For instance, the business case assumes that a new Moore Park stadium will deliver two extra major concerts a year, two “other events” a year such as US college football, one extra international soccer fixture a year and another international rugby league fixture.
The document also assumes that, if the existing Allianz Stadium was not overhauled, NRL clubs would have played at least three fewer fixtures a year there – or only 10 a year. In contrast, building a new stadium will result in at least 16 NRL games a year played at a new Moore Park stadium, the document assumes, rising from the current 13.

Labor’s sports spokeswoman, Lynda Voltz, criticised the assumptions for under-estimating the number of games currently played at the stadium, which made the case for a new stadium look better.

“For Allianz Stadium the government appears to have taken every care presenting the best possible case to ensure the Sydney Cricket & Sports Ground Trust gets a new stadium,” Ms Voltz said.

The government’s chosen option of a refurbished ANZ Stadium does not allow for a retractable roof to be fitted. This means Sydney will remain without a major stadium with a retractable roof; the roof at Etihad Stadium in Melbourne helped that city win the rights to host the US men’s basketball team in two fixtures against the Boomers next year.

The Sports Minister, Stuart Ayres, said: "The transformation of Stadium Australia will bring 46,000 fans closer to the action, provide roof cover for every seat and keep the NRL Grand Final in Sydney for the next 25 years."
 

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