The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Desert Qlder]

To be fair to @SirPies&Beers he has been in and out of hospitals for some time now....

Don't think he understands what a hornets nest Downey Park is. I wouldn't want all them netball players coming for me when they find out about this plan.

 

[SirPies&Beers]

Near a hospital wtf?

i did google.

royal brisbane and northern bus ways is near it


wilston train station is near it.


inner city bypass and therefore legacy ways, clem 7 and therefore m1 and gateways, airport tunnel exits are literally right there


so it had traino, busway, multiple freeways and tunnels converge right next to it, hospital (hence the infrastructure and public transport). netball fields could always be relocated (maybe to viccy park as they'll be more environmental friendly) and assuming it gets busy there from netball events etc then all it means is the area is already used to heavy congestion. whats so wrong about it?

 

[Red&BlackBear]

i did google.

royal brisbane and northern bus ways is near it
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wilston train station is near it.
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inner city bypass and therefore legacy ways, clem 7 and therefore m1 and gateways, airport tunnel exits are literally right there
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so it had traino, busway, multiple freeways and tunnels converge right next to it, hospital (hence the infrastructure and public transport). netball fields could always be relocated (maybe to viccy park as they'll be more environmental friendly) and assuming it gets busy there from netball events etc then all it means is the area is already used to heavy congestion. whats so wrong about it?

Not the worst idea. Due to the Royal’s location both public transport and motorways infrastructure do pass reasonably close to your proposed location.

It is a flood plain. Look at the proximity to the creek. Sure that can be negated with astute design and engineering. However, I generally don’t believe there is enough land space for it.

There’s better locations.

 

[Vlad59]

Not the worst idea. Due to the Royal’s location both public transport and motorways infrastructure do pass reasonably close to your proposed location.

It is a flood plain. Look at the proximity to the creek. Sure that can be negated with astute design and engineering. However, I generally don’t believe there is enough land space for it.

There’s better locations.

Interesting that this discussion today seems to be solely about where we locate a cricket stadium or am I missing something?

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Interesting that this discussion today seems to be solely about where we locate a cricket stadium or am I missing something?

No clue mate. I just jumped on while having a quick bite to eat and found myself in this thread.

But I dare say that the Olympic stadium location is fairly important to South Queensland’s sporting landscape. If it is a true 65k+ seater then it wouldn’t surprise me if a couple of the big event NRL games do get a sniff at being played there down the track regardless of it’s oval shape. I guess the relevance of it to rugby league can be traced there.

 

[i0Nic]

If this oval stadium in Brisbane is anything above 50k capacity it’s a collosal waste of money.

Hopefully sanity will prevail and we get a 50k upgraded Gabba and a 65k Suncorp.

 

[horrie hastings]

yeah you could re do those 80's ones hey

The access in and out of the Brewongle Stand is terrible, very narrow and would imagine the Clive Churchill stand would be much the same. The O'Reilly stand on the other side has the same problems as the Brewongle. You would need a complete rebuild as all three stands don't meet current safety regulations.

 

[Canard]

If this oval stadium in Brisbane is anything above 50k capacity it’s a colossal waste of money.

If money was no object (and IT IS), than a more suitable solution for an oval in Brisbane would be a hybrid of permeant and temp/removable seating like Stadium Australia was. Say something like 45k permeant, with 15k of temp seating.

 

[i0Nic]

50k is more than enough for athletics, it's a decent sized crowd it's not going to look insignificant at the ground or on TV. Then they don't need to worry about reconfiguring it which is another cost.

50k would give AFL/Cricket some room for growth above what the Gabba can hold today. It fits within the 'new norm' guidelines of the IOC which is about having sustainable venues that are not white elephants.

Hold the opening and closing ceremony in an upgraded Suncorp with 65k capacity. Just like LA is doing, they're using their flagship rectangular SOFI stadium for the ceremonies and the smaller LA Coliseum stadium for athletics (there is precedence).

This gives Brisbane an amazing legacy of a world class oval and world class large rectangular stadium with suitable capacities for their respective uses.

Blow all the cash on a huge oval and it's literally providing only a third of the utility of the above outcome. The only way that would commercially stack up is if events move away from Suncorp to this oval, like state of origin, which would be a crap outcome for all concerned (except AFL powerbrokers).

 

[i0Nic]

With a larger Suncorp (rectangle stadium) the benefits for Brisbane to generate further revenue through extra tourism and ticket sales:
- Potential to take the NRL Grand Final
- Host more high profile sport events like RUWC finals, NFL Games, Fifa world cup qualifiers
- Large concerts like Taylor swift

What does a larger oval provide Brisbane?
- Sell some more tickets to existing AFL and Cricket events (That's highly optimistic, I can't see Lions getting close to 50k outside of finals)
- Large concerts like Taylor Swift
- They won't take the state of origin or Grand final with an oval, they won't take big RU games, or football etc So more limited abilities to attract any sporting events outside of AFL. And even if they do, it's compromised to being the wrong shape for most sports.

If a fair due diligence is conducted the above should be obvious. What we don't know is if the AFL powerbrokers and lobbyists will push their way into the wrong decision for Brisbane.

 

[Perth Red]

65k Olympic stadium, gives the games a fitting venue and somewhere decent for Origin and MW to be held

 

[i0Nic]

65k Olympic stadium, gives the games a fitting venue and somewhere decent for Origin and MW to be held

Holding Origin in a oval would be a massive step backwards, considering the Cauldron has been such a staple for Queensland Rugby League. It goes from being among the best league/football stadium in the country to taking a step back from even Accor.

50k oval, 65k upgraded Suncorp - best of both worlds.