The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[colly]

Dumb Quennsland league followers let the game down.... stay in your state don't complain about NSW Gov does - its no of your business, QLD Government, well that's your responsibility...or am i wrong.. responsibility of this decision BELONGS to Queenslanders and all the body politic of that State , no one else...

Whats the problem here we are arguing BECAUSE a Politician LIED. That's all you need to know. You can only take them at face value - thou the cheaper option from other group had more reliability BUT thats not you entirety vote for, your vote its made up many other things, so we got a duded by a new Premier who in record time broke a promise

 

[Brutus]

Why spend $1/2bill+ on a few thousand seats that still won't meet the demand? If it takes 10-15 years to replace Suncorp with a 70-75k new stadium so be it. That's a better long term outcome than adding 5k seats now and Suncorp staying at 60k for the next 30 years+. Better to play the long game.

No chance of happening.

Best we go for the 60k idea.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Why spend $1/2bill+ on a few thousand seats that still won't meet the demand? If it takes 10-15 years to replace Suncorp with a 70-75k new stadium so be it. That's a better long term outcome than adding 5k seats now and Suncorp staying at 60k for the next 30 years+. Better to play the long game.

It wouldn’t cost anywhere near that much to upgrade the stadium as it currently stands to its provisional capacity.

I’ve already covered the estimated cost to get it to 60k yesterday to @jim_57

A few hours ago I flagged to you that the entire demolition and rebuild of Suncorp would not be cheap. It would actually be quite significant.

 

[Diesel]

the rent for Brisbane stadium would be massive to pay back a $3.7b stadium. Hope the afl have deep pockets

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Bit harsh

Shows what’s going to happen when he leaves nobody else in the game has a clue

Where’s the two qld politicians on the arlc in this

Or Ben Ikin

Or the two Brisbane nrl clubs

Courier mail are now calling for Suncorp to get an upgrade

Both Kate Jones and Ben Ikin did meet with QLD Government at various stages in the last 12 months regarding stadiums in QLD.

Not sure if they were aligned in their approach.

However, Barlow Park and Sunshine Coast Stadium (both used by QRL clubs) getting upgrades would be something more factored into Ben’s strategy than Kate’s - I would assume.

 

[insert.pause]

the rent for Brisbane stadium would be massive to pay back a $3.7b stadium. Hope the afl have deep pockets

The afl will probably get gifted management rights too if history is any guide. Gold Coast Commonwealth games was a boon for them too.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Both Kate Jones and Ben Ikin did meet with QLD Government at various stages in the last 12 months regarding stadiums in QLD.

Not sure if they were aligned in their approach.

However, Barlow Park and Sunshine Coast Stadium (both used by QRL clubs) getting upgrades would be something more factored into Ben’s strategy than Kate’s - I would assume.

I doubt Kate Jones gets much of a meeting with the current government, for reasons which should be obvious.

The QRL did not meet with the Quirk review team, which was the driving force behind this new direction. They definitely should be interested in the future of their showpiece event.

Meeting with the previous government was rather pointless with the political winds that were blowing.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

I doubt Kate Jones gets much of a meeting with the current government, for reasons which should be obvious.

The QRL did not meet with the Quirk review team, which was the driving force behind this new direction. They definitely should be interested in the future of their showpiece event.

Meeting with the previous government was rather pointless with the political winds that were blowing.

I can’t speak of if they did or didn’t meet with the current Crisafulli government or the Quirk Review team but they did meet with the Miles government previously.

Ben did meet with a few stakeholders at various stages in the last 12 months.

It’s safe to assume that the altered political landscape in QLD following the last state election potentially stalled and broke down whatever conversations were had.

 

[i0Nic]

Safe to say afl are stronger powerbrokers and have tentacles deep in the government.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Pvl had 3 years to do something and got f**k all..

Looks like the showgrounds are being a tiny rugby field as well..

 

[Desert Qlder]

I can’t speak of if they did or didn’t meet with the current Crisafulli government or the Quirk Review team but they did meet with the Miles government previously.

Ben did meet with a few stakeholders at various stages in the last 12 months.

It’s safe to assume that the altered political landscape in QLD following the last state election potentially stalled and broke down whatever conversations were had.

So they wasted or misdirected their time and this is reflected in the final result.

Hopeless.

 

[colly]

Safe to say afl are stronger powerbrokers and have tentacles deep in the government.

I don't know about that. All Queenslanders will have to pay billions for years ( its all borrowed money) they wont be happy about that. While we ,NRL in a Geo political move to cut out China spends $600 million. So from a purely selfish point , i know what party i want win. ( i don't vote, I pay the $20 fine on principal)

 

[jim_57]

In an ideal world Brisbane would have a 70k rectangular stadium but getting a modest upgrade of Suncorp to 60k or so wouldn’t be a bad result in any way, especially if it comes at a reasonable price. V’Landys should be on a war path from this day onwards to get it done.

- 70k capacity compared to 60k is unlikely to increase their chances much of snagging major events from Sydney/Melbourne like an Asian Cup final, RUWC Final or NFL game. They’d be looking at mostly the same level of events and paying the ‘lower capacity’ excess to lure major ones away regardless.

- Likewise above for concerts. Even at 70k the 63k plus extra standing room on an Oval Victoria Park would probably be able to fit more fans in. Very few acts have demand for that many fans and not many if any will skip Brisbane because of capacity now let alone if they have 2x 60k options.

- 70k might be next to impossible to fit on the current Suncorp site, chances are it would require a new build elsewhere which would mean giving up all the history and perks of the Suncorp site has as mentioned by @SLRBRONCOS earlier.

- A major spend on a new stadium or rebuilt Suncorp would be at least 10-15 years away, probably more like 20+ now after today’s announcements. Not going after a moderate upgrade now will look pretty dumb if in 20 years time Suncorp is still 52k and major stadium funding is next to impossible to come by after the Olympics.

- 60k would be big enough to bid for the occasional Grand Final, Super Bowl was played at a 65k stadium last year and that’s one of the biggest sporting events in the world. They’d be selling tickets at a premium to make up some of the shortfall obviously.

- Having a world class 60k rectangular in Queensland on standby for Grand Finals should force the price up for NSW to keep it and/or cause them to lose one which puts some pressure back on the NSW Government regarding an Accor rebuild and/or upgrading other grounds.


I say go for it and go for it hard.

 

[Wb1234]

I doubt Kate Jones gets much of a meeting with the current government, for reasons which should be obvious.

The QRL did not meet with the Quirk review team, which was the driving force behind this new direction. They definitely should be interested in the future of their showpiece event.

Meeting with the previous government was rather pointless with the political winds that were blowing.

Wouldn’t have made a difference by then

Isn’t that the committee where the Gold Coast suns chairman was on

Once labor lost the election this was always on the cards

 

[Red&BlackBear]

So they wasted or misdirected their time and this is reflected in the final result.

Hopeless.

Ben’s goal isn’t based on Suncorp though.

His goal and literal job is to improve rugby league through out all of Queensland and if stadium infrastructure in Cairns and Sunshine Coast where two heartland regions lie and rugby league is played on are getting funding for improvement then he has had some success.

Could Suncorp be acted on its provisions to bring capacity up to 60k? Yes. However, is Suncorp in dire need of a revamp right now? No. Therein lies the issue.

It’s a want vs. need situation.

 

[Wb1234]

The problem with Suncorp is it’s a damn fine stadium as it is lol

Even today only Allianz beats it

If the afl tick off Pvl enough from this it will only hasten the Ipswich nrl team (over Christchurch)

 

[colly]

Pvl had 3 years to do something and got f**k all..

Looks like the showgrounds are being a tiny rugby field as well..

Cum On <, your been a joke since Diablo used to f,n own you- in the noughies. go back to the swannies you freak/uk

 

[Jamberoo]

This was what should’ve been discussed before the stadium decision was made not now

I’m sure if they put enough pressure on the govt they can get the upgrade to 60k

1. As if the GF will be played anywhere but Sydney.
2. As if MR will be played anywhere but Brisbane.

Not sure there is a lot of leverage there.

PVL is a great ideas man but making threats is no way to negotiate. Just puts everyone off side,

 

[colly]

1. As if the GF will be played anywhere but Sydney.
2. As if MR will be played anywhere but Brisbane.

Not sure there is a lot of leverage there.

PVL is a great ideas man but making threats is no way to negotiate. Just puts everyone off side,

Well call me surprised. The Olympics are going to held in a oval stadium, That's news right their. Tell me what could PVL do, invent square corners for the athletic runners.. So a oval stadium was ALWAYS going to be built- unless that is you have better idea to stop a oval being constructed to hold a international sports 'oval' event.

 

[insert.pause]

1. As if the GF will be played anywhere but Sydney.
2. As if MR will be played anywhere but Brisbane.

Not sure there is a lot of leverage there.

PVL is a great ideas man but making threats is no way to negotiate. Just puts everyone off side,

Of course it is, otherwise governments wouldn’t be paying the nrl anything for their events, let alone $11m this year alone for the GF. Other states are biding for these events, that is leverage, whether the nrl are serious about moving them is moot, they only need the option.