The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[T-Boon]

Do you suggest they just run every race more than 100m back and forth?

Just have the 400, 800, 1500 etc at the Gabba.

 

[jim_57]

The roof on Accor idea keeps popping up I see. That would be worst case scenario long term, needs a knockdown & rebuild, put a roof on it after that if you need to.

 

[T-Boon]

Wasn't Stadium Australia supposed to be converted to rectangular after the Olympics until that AFL intervened?
It sounds like if the 65000 seat stadium is built properly (eg step grandstands like that perth stadium) it could be converted to rectangular after and be used for origin, magic round, rugby, soccer and grand finals. NRL needs to be all over this.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

So they are using temporary seating at Sunshine Coast and maybe Barlow park for the Olympic Games together with permanent stands

The athletics stadium should’ve been 30k permanent capacity and the rest temp seats

The 3 billion saved could’ve gone to a 70k new rectangular stadium

The qld opposition are making a huge issue of this with spending on hospitals being canned for it so the govt might end up being one term

The money is there to be spent on the Olympics, not a rectangular stadium.

Get a hold of yourself or you will be disqualified from the bestest rugby league fan eva!!! trophy.

 

[Wb1234]

Wasn't Stadium Australia supposed to be converted to rectangular after the Olympics until that AFL intervened?
It sounds like if the 65000 seat stadium is built properly (eg step grandstands like that perth stadium) it could be converted to rectangular after and be used for origin, magic round, rugby, soccer and grand finals. NRL needs to be all over this.

Just the ends would’ve been rectangular

Main stands are built too far away and have a poor rake. The poor design of those stands has nothing to do with the Olympics just a bad architect

Suncorp was modelled on the mistakes of Homebush then commbank copied and improved on the rake

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Wbarchitect.

 

[T-Boon]

Just the ends would’ve been rectangular

Main stands are built too far away and have a poor rake. The poor design of those stands has nothing to do with the Olympics just a bad architect

Suncorp was modelled on the mistakes of Homebush then commbank copied and improved on the rake

Exactly, make it with good rake, a square end on the south side and a temporary oval end at the north and happy endings.

The problem with cricket and AFL is they want those huge grounds where everyone on the other side is way too far away from the 100m track.

 

[Wb1234]

Exactly, make it with good rake, a square end on the south side and a temporary oval end at the north and happy endings.

Didn’t think of that

That’s what they could’ve done for Brisbane

 

[AlwaysGreen]

You two geniuses realise that there are specific dimensions required for an international athletics track?

This isn't Yagoona Primary School's sports carnival.

 

[i0Nic]

Not fan of the idea of putting on a roof on Accor. That only solves the problem for concerts and events but does nothing for rugby league. Putting a roof on it will delay any new rectangular stadium build for the next 20 years.

 

[T-Boon]

If you have a look at the French stadium it certainly did not conform with any kind of old conversions. Itself has essentially one rectangular end. The Olympics folk are well up on the need to be less expensive and utilise existing facilities across a city and not leave white elephants which is what stadium australia would be if it wasn't for the decency of rugby league.

 

[dogslife]

Just have the 400, 800, 1500 etc at the Gabba.

No one that has ever been to the Gabba would suggest using it for serious events.

By 2032, we'll have Olympics putt-putt or laser tag. We need to save the Gabba for them.

 

[T-Boon]

USC Trojans (American football) home ground is being used for the LA Olympics athletics so dang NRL needs to offer a GF every few years and make it happen.

 

[T-Boon]

No one that has ever been to the Gabba would suggest using it for serious events.

By 2032, we'll have Olympics putt-putt or laser tag. We need to save the Gabba for them.

The olympics is/are lowering its/they/their expectations and glamor anyway and are happy for crap cities like Brisbane to host for example. I think fibro stadiums would be fine.

 

[T-Boon]

Qld tax payers would be spitting chips if the design of this thing is to fit in with AFL/Cricket. Neither of those even threaten to fill a 40k stadium.
AFL has a long history of demanding $$ spent on grounds then abandoning them eg that one in Penrith, Stadium Australia, now the Gabba talk and so on.

Peter V needs to step in here - for the tax payer. There is still plenty of time.

 

[dogslife]

Qld tax payers would be spitting chips if the design of this thing is to fit in with AFL/Cricket. Neither of those even threaten to fill a 40k stadium.
AFL has a long history of demanding $$ spent on grounds then abandoning them eg that one in Penrith, Stadium Australia, now the Gabba talk and so on.

Peter V needs to step in here - for the tax payer. There is still plenty of time.

Lang Park is 20 years old and it never gets filled either

 

[Steel Saints]

The roof on Accor idea keeps popping up I see. That would be worst case scenario long term, needs a knockdown & rebuild, put a roof on it after that if you need to.

Not fan of the idea of putting on a roof on Accor. That only solves the problem for concerts and events but does nothing for rugby league. Putting a roof on it will delay any new rectangular stadium build for the next 20 years.

Yep, and the facf that Accor is 26 years old, whilst Parramatta and SFS were demolished after 30 years, it probably isn't the right investment to put a roof.

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

Homebush is the right location long term of transport (between the metro / train / light rail, the only better connected location would be central)

its a good choice for inner west teams (dogs / tigers / souths) if the stadium is not crap

 

[i0Nic]

Yep just knock the thing down in a few years and build a 75k roofed rectangular stadium in its spot and it will be the premier stadium in the country.

My somewhat reasonable stadium Wishlist timeline:


2026: HBF upgrade to 25k seats, finish Shark park upgrades to 20k
2027: Brookvale upgrade to 22k seats
2030: Accor knockdown rebuild 75k seats
2032: Win stadium upgrade to 25k
2032: Kayo upgrade to 25k seats
2034: boutique 25k stadium in Liverpool for dogs / tigers
2034: Suncorp knockdown rebuild 65k seats

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

This whole, small capacity thing for the Olympics might end up working for RL.

Do it like the LA plan and have a 60k stadoum for the games then expand to an 80k rectangular stadium after it is done.

the only way to make the stadium worthwhile is to build something that can get the big events from other cities (NRL GF for example) and make the most of them