The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[newc18]

The NRL should have to sign off on anything clubs do (especially involving business contracts), because NRL club are so stupid its not funny. They are actually proudly stupid.

That isn't the worst idea. Don't the AFL do similar with the Melbourne AFL clubs?

Regarding stadiums I mean.

 

[jim_57]

If souths sack Solly and get a new ceo who apologises the govt may relent and release them from their contractual obligations

Up to 3 games at Allianz is a nice gesture from the nsw govt

The key question is if the 2-3 games can come off the Accor allocation or they expect them to ditch some games outside of Sydney. 6 at Accor, 3 at Allianz and 3 elsewhere like they do most years would be a bit better than now.

 

[Wb1234]

 

[Vee]

Just burn down Accor. It sucks.

It worked for Parra.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Yeh ok. I did some reading after posting. I bought his whole "we signed it when they said they would upgrade it" propaganda.

I get it, we hate souths. But souths at allianz is better for the game.

He was told the upgrade wasn’t forthcoming before he signed and still signed anyway because they were addicted to the money on offer. They should be at Allianz with both clubs giving reciprocal offers for away fans when they meet but I can’t help but lol@$ouffs here

 

[Captain Apollo]

I really haven't been following the rabbitohs to allianz saga, but how can the state government tell a rugby league club where they play a bulk of their games?

I get they want to move from one state own facility to another, but could they not choose to go to shark park instead?

As has been said, the NSW Government can because Souths signed a lease to play games at Accor Stadium until 2030. Blake Solly, Souths CEO signed that lease even after being told by Government authorities at the time Accor wouldn't be getting any upgrades.

Solly stuffed up, and his media campaign to get Souths to Allianz was designed to get them out of that lease agreement.

 

[Perth Red]

He was told the upgrade wasn’t forthcoming before he signed and still signed anyway because they were addicted to the money on offer. They should be at Allianz with both clubs giving reciprocal offers for away fans when they meet but I can’t help but lol@$ouffs here

Probably seemed a good financial deal at the time but once allianz was open they could see what a stuff up they’ve made

 

[Wb1234]

Probably seemed a good financial deal at the time but once allianz was open they could see what a stuff up they’ve made

Nah it was always a bad decision

One tour of Allianz even before it was finished would’ve shown him that

Solly is out of his depth in the nrl he’s set them back years

 

[Growthegame]

What’s the end game of the Government here?

Souths will just move to Allianz Stadium in 2031 or whatever the first year after their Accor Stadium deal is complete. Where does that leave the Government then?

 

[Captain Apollo]

What’s the end game of the Government here?

Souths will just move to Allianz Stadium in 2031 or whatever the first year after their Accor Stadium deal is complete. Where does that leave the Government then?

Name;ly holding people to a signed agreement. Hypothetically, what if someone built a privately owned stadium which was better than Allianz and clubs under lease then wanted to move to it? It would set a precedent clubs would seek to exploit to get out of its respective leases at Allianz or other government facilities to play there instead.

 

[Vlad59]

Nah it was always a bad decision

One tour of Allianz even before it was finished would’ve shown him that

Solly is out of his depth in the nrl he’s set them back years

Exactly. It always reeked of being opportunism over logic. Signing a ten year deal was madness.

 

[Growthegame]

Name;ly holding people to a signed agreement. Hypothetically, what if someone built a privately owned stadium which was better than Allianz and clubs under lease then wanted to move to it? It would set a precedent clubs would seek to exploit to get out of its respective leases at Allianz or other government facilities to play there instead.

There is a big difference between wanting to break a lease to move from one government owned/controlled stadium to another than breaking a government lease to move to a private owned stadium.

 

[Captain Apollo]

There is a big difference between wanting to break a lease to move from one government owned/controlled stadium to another than breaking a government lease to move to a private owned stadium.

Its the same principle. You signed the lease with your eyes wide open, no one coerced Souths into signing it. Why should any Government help them out of what they after the fact consider a crappy deal?

 

[AdelaideSharky]

Looking at this soccer World Cup qualifier v Japan at Perth the oval just is not good enough. The aerial view just showed how far away the sideline is. Horrible. This sports mad country deserves a proper venue for these types of games.

That'll probably only happen if the Perth Bears go gangbusters and Perth Glory return to their glory years (pun not intended) of the early 2000's.

 

[newc18]

On SEN Solly said they signed the long term deal in 2016 not 2022 like people have said. So I'm not too sure who to believe?

 

[Growthegame]

Its the same principle. You signed the lease with your eyes wide open, no one coerced Souths into signing it. Why should any Government help them out of what they after the fact consider a crappy deal?

It’s not the same principle. I would expect the government to have a long term end game here. What the ideal scenario is. They seem to be acting only thinking about the short term.

 

[Captain Apollo]

On SEN Solly said they signed the long term deal in 2016 not 2022 like people have said. So I'm not too sure who to believe?

That may have been the original agreement. It was reported that the amended lease, which is the current one, was signed in November 2021 -

Rabbit trap: Souths CEO bungles stadium deal

Rabbit trap: Souths CEO bungles stadium deal

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Captain Apollo]

It’s not the same principle. I would expect the government to have a long term end game here. What the ideal scenario is. They seem to be acting only thinking about the short term.

Government's only thinking short term? Fancy that

What next, you going to tell me that water is wet?!

 

[Jamberoo]

There is a big difference between wanting to break a lease to move from one government owned/controlled stadium to another than breaking a government lease to move to a private owned stadium.

There are other factors at play. Each stadium would have separate food and beverage contracts worth tens of million$ with different suppliers and service providers, signed on the basis of who is playing where.

 

[Jamberoo]

That isn't the worst idea. Don't the AFL do similar with the Melbourne AFL clubs?

Regarding stadiums I mean.

As part of deals with the governments to get stadiums upgraded, the AFL contract directly with stadiums regarding the number of games at each stadium, then fills them even if the clubs are not happy with their allocation. E.g. 41 games at Marvel and 45 at MCG.

To a large extent they dictate to clubs where to play. For example, Eseendon’s contract to play play seven home games at Marvel expired last year, and Essendon has expressed a desire to move some of those games to the MCG, but the AFL still fixtured those seven games at Marvel. All Melbourne teams have to play some home games at Marvel even Collingwood.