Galvin v the Tigers

[soc123_au]

When did Galvin publicly say Benji can't coach? Honest question, I haven't seen it. I've only seen media reports.

The one I have the issue with is Turuva. What a hypocritical thing to say, to go on about money, when Turuva has literally just moved to the Tigers for more money. Otherwise, wouldn't he be at Penrith? There's no way the Panthers wouldn't want to have kept him, but the Tigers paid him more, so he went.

Even Luai, he's saying team first...then why didn't he accept a pay cut at Penrith? I don't expect him to, incidentally. But I do expect that he shouldn't criticise a 19 year old to want to leave, for what is either more money, or the same money plus better premiership prospects.

Some of this BS in the media makes it seem like the Tigers developed and put their life savings into Galvin, which is horse crap. He was an Eels junior, and is on a reported $250k.

To me, a lot of this is because of Isaac Moses. But that doesn't excuse the public rubbish that Turuva and Luai put up, and Fonua Pole if you want to count some like he made on a critical post. That is unprofessional crap from all three. This is a business.

Luai has walked the walk previously to be fair. He had offers when he was stuck in cup behind Maloney and stayed put. Then had to fight for the 6 alongside Burton when he got his chance. Taking the big payday in your late 20's is a bit different to what is happening here.

 

[Steel Saints]

Surprised this isn't already being discussed there. If it is, and I've just missed it somehow, feel free to fold this into that thread.

I'm a little lost. What has Galvin done that countless others haven't? He doesn't want to play for the Tigers and has indicated that he'll be testing the market. What's the big deal? Why is he being singled out?

Didn't Luai do the same thing?

Didn't Api do the same thing?

I get that it's disappointing for Tigers fans, of course. But why is everyone piling on the kid?

Key difference is Luai and Api have achieved success. They are entitled to test the market. Neither of them was just 19 with 27 games under their belt.

I do feel sorry for Galvin. He is just a kid who has stepped into the murky world of contract negotiations with his agent- Isaac Moses. Galvin has been poorly advised. His agent has put a target on his back. Slagging off a coach in public is not the right move.

Also Tigers players should not be classless on social media either. Keep it private with Galvin and the coaching staff.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

A lot stinks here, but again where did he bag the coach off on public? Was it not during a private meeting that their list of grievances was put forward, and it’s the Tigers who’ve made mention of it to the media?

 

[Meth]

Luai had already won 3 premierships when he signed for more money because the Panthers couldn't pay him that much.

Not after 8 games.

And that's what turns everybody off. He's done nothing and already wants to be paid like he the best in the game while trying to muscle his way out of the club.

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And clubs seems to be willing to pay him.

 

[Meth]

A few people bringing up Luai's achievements. You don't need to achieve anything at all in order to test out the market. The market defines your worth and if a club is willing to pay Galvin 1m per season before he has achieved like Luai, then that's his worth.

 

[Meth]

btw, I don't think I'd be zeroing in on Luai so much if he hadn't have called Galvin a bitch on social media and gone to the coach to get him dropped.

 

[chrisD]

Galvin basically told the Tigers no at any price, that's different to Luai and others. He thinks he's better than the club. Given that mentality it makes sense for everyone there to turn off him.

 

[Tigerm]

A lot stinks here, but again where did he bag the coach off on public? Was it not during a private meeting that their list of grievances was put forward, and it’s the Tigers who’ve made mention of it to the media?

Why do you think it was the Tigers who took it to the media?
Richo wouldn't even tell them what day it is, so I don't think he'd run to the media.
Who was best serve to show a list of grievances (from a 19yo) to the media, the club or the manager.
I also note, that none of it has been denied.
He'll be gone soon enough and we will all move on, but kids shouldn't be telling the management what they want.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Interesting perspective on this from Ivan Cleary of all people -

‘No manager ever listens to me’: Cleary’s contract lesson for young guns amid Galvin drama

‘No manager ever listens to me’: Cleary’s contract lesson for young guns amid Galvin drama

www.foxsports.com.au

Ivan went to town on Issac Moses when Mitch threw the tantrum at the Tigers, I doubt he’ll be anywhere near Penrith next year

btw, I don't think I'd be zeroing in on Luai so much if he hadn't have called Galvin a bitch on social media and gone to the coach to get him dropped.

lol wtf he never called him a bitch he literally posted ‘team first’

Luai had cracks at api and kikau on social media when they were leaving Penrith and no one battered an eye lid

 

[BuffaloRules]

The perceptions of which side is ultimately wrong or right in their handling of this will depend on how many games the Tigers can win without Galvin ..

Looking at their squad…they don’t have any depth beyond their Top 20 players …so even though their Top side is a reasonable one I can see them struggling big time when the injury bug inevitably strikes later in the season…

 

[Captain Apollo]

Why do you think it was the Tigers who took it to the media?
Richo wouldn't even tell them what day it is, so I don't think he'd run to the media.
Who was best serve to show a list of grievances (from a 19yo) to the media, the club or the manager.
I also note, that none of hot has been denied.
He'll be gone soon enough and we will all move on, but kids shouldn't be telling the management what they want.

Additionally, the reporting of the meeting between Galvin, Moses and Richardson recorded that Moses began reading out the list of grievances against Marshall and that's when Richardson ended the meeting before Moses could outline all the "problems" that Galvin had with Benji's coaching.

By comparison to how Luai did things, he sat down with the Panthers hierarchy, they went through things from their perspective, he listened, and then he said "look I'll test the market and come back to you". There was little acrimony, and Luai's situation played out during that final season (IIRC) not 18 or more months before his contract ended, like Galvin's is now.

In terms of the issue becoming public in that Galvin is going, that's on the Tigers. They made the public statement. Beyond that, we the general public do not know who has said what about the other parts that have been reported.

 

[Rabbit toes]

Best thing the club can do is cut Galvin loose now and stop the rot from setting in.
Nothing can be gained by having him there from now on
Let the tigers sign Dodd of Souths and move Luai to 6.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

People, and journos especially, are forgetting that in 2028 the NRL (hopefully) gets a bumper tv deal. The salary cap is likely to go up significantly and the stars on $1.2mill at moment could be heading to $2mill a year. If I was a gun young halfback being touted as the best up and comer I wouldn't be signing a long term contract unless it had some guaranteed uplift clauses in it.

On this kid, he's entitled to decide where he works. Clubs cut players quickly when they dont value them anymore, he has every right to look for a different club when his contract is up.

Listening to Tallis prattle on all week about it given his history of loyalty to a club was one of the most hypocritical things Ive heard.

100%.

Lots of hypocritical people throwing their oar in the water on this.

Maybe Galvin didn't handle himself perfectly within the four walls of the club, I wasn't there.

But I know for damn sure he's allowed to test the market and go to a new club - as so many players do - and earn more. He doesn't owe the Tigers anything that I can see.

 

[yakstorm]

Galvin is victim of being young and naive and getting poor advice (and being let down) from the likes of Moses and whoever else is in his close circle.

There is nothing wrong with him wanting to look for another club and get himself the best deal, and if that's all that was said, this would have fizzled out pretty quickly, though the fact his camp is feeding stories to the media around how he doesn't rate Benji, he feels Benji has too close of a relationship to Luai, that he doesn't appreciate playing second fiddle to Luai, etc has left him exposed to some of the backlash he is receiving.

It would be potentially be different if he had more runs on the board, but to most fans, he is an inexperience player who hasn't yet lived up to his potential.

The fact there have been rumblings since the Dragons game last year that he wants out hasn't helped. Publicly it has looked like the Tigers have done everything he has wanted and yet it's not enough.

Naturally I'm sure there is more to the story and I'm sure there are plenty of exaggerations in what is getting published, but it's not like there is anything contradicting it coming out. If he had been more transparent after the Wests Tigers put out their release, he possibly could have controlled the narrative a lot more, but since the stories have been coming out, all I've seen is one ChatGPT generated release from his camp.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Luai has walked the walk previously to be fair. He had offers when he was stuck in cup behind Maloney and stayed put. Then had to fight for the 6 alongside Burton when he got his chance. Taking the big payday in your late 20's is a bit different to what is happening here.

But a dollar is a dollar right, whether you are 19 or 28? Should young players delay big paydays because it's the 'right thing to do'? (my words, not yours).

I heard a lot of 'he's not worth that' when Brown signed with the Knights, but I don't know where this idea of who is worth what comes from. It's supply and demand, on a more nuanced scale. Halves are a scarce resource in the NRL. Ones who are already (arguably) NRL class at 19, who could play for the next 15+ years, are even more scarce. So clubs, especially the desperate ones, are going to table massive deals. Halves don't grow on trees. Galvin can go to one of those, or he can take what is probably a slight pay cut to go to a contender. His call, because he's got a massive level of talent.

Everyone is welcome to dislike Galvin for his part in this, and certainly Moses who is a snake. But honestly, the idea that he's doing something that the majority of us wouldn't do, or the majority of 19 year old wunderkind halves wouldn't, just doesn't sit right with me.

 

[Meth]

lol wtf he never called him a bitch he literally posted ‘team first’

The song he used was 'Bitch don't kill my vibe', which I believe was directed at Galvin. It's crazier to think it wasn't.

 

[Fangs]

The socials stuff is embarrassing. But its 2025. That is how these guys operate.

Galvin has a manager who people don't like dealing with. It would be coming from him and its all about securing the best deal possible which they believe needs to happen immediately. If they thought more money would be offered by the end of 2025 then they would have waited.

The other part is that a player leaving like this can destroy a season. The Tigers look alright for the first time in yonks then this stupid shit gets pulled. The fans should be extremely annoyed. The only thing the club could have done better is pissed off Galvin in the pre-season.

Galvin to Parramatta. Brown to Newcastle Knights. Will all happen within the next few weeks. Both clubs along with the Tigers will need to chew the fat to work out the details. Newy will have to drop someone you'd think...will the Tigers take back Jackson Hastings?

 

[Penrose Warrior]

It's just all over the show with this in media. Gus Gould was the one I just couldn't get my head around. He said Galvin was the most talented teenager he'd ever seen, who would earn the most money of any player in the game's history, and any club with him in the side would be a premiership contender.

Yet a short time later, he said it was irresponsible (or something along those lines) to give this guy $1m plus.

 

[Meth]

It's just all over the show with this in media. Gus Gould was the one I just couldn't get my head around. He said Galvin was the most talented teenager he'd ever seen, who would earn the most money of any player in the game's history, and any club with him in the side would be a premiership contender.

Yet a short time later, he said it was irresponsible (or something along those lines) to give this guy $1m plus.

haha at first he was trying to woo Galvin to the club, then he was trying to get him for a good price.

To be fair, Gould has been pretty consistent in saying both of those things though.

 

[Steel Saints]

btw, I don't think I'd be zeroing in on Luai so much if he hadn't have called Galvin a bitch on social media and gone to the coach to get him dropped.

I think the one person who you should be zeroing in is Isaac Moses, Galvin's agent. An agent who has been deregistered. If Moses and Galvin didn't criticise Marshall in public, then you wouldn't get the social media reaction from tigers players.

Sure, two wrongs don't make a right. But all roads lead back to Isaac Moses who has past form.