GAME DAY THREAD - SHARKIES vs. THE RIFF in VEGAS

[shadowboxer]

I agree BBB.

We all made a big noise about Hynes dropping the kickoff. But no where near the noise about Trindall not finding touch. I think it’s because that he did contribute to the team more than Nicho.

You can probably make a case that Trindall’s error was worse in two ways.

1. It’s easier to drop a ball than not kicking a ball into touch.

2. If he kicks the ball into touch we’re on the attack into their half of the field. Instead they get the ball and start attacking us instead with a disjointed line of defence and immediately but our defensive line under stress.

The point some of us here are saying that yes there was some positives in the game but we are still making stupid errors or giving away stupid penalties from a lack of concentration and discipline. We won’t beat Storm & Panthers unless we cut this shyte out. And we’re not wrist slitters in pointing it out. This shyte continues to happen nearly every game it wasn’t a once off.

And why were we running it one out and continually getting smashed. Don’t be predictable. Even making one pass makes a difference. We have forwards with good hands to do this. You won’t beat the panthers playing safe.

Problem was on the TV - they didn’t even show or maybe glanced at Trindall fluffing it and missing touch.
However, Nicho knocks the ball on from the kick off - looks like he just crapped his dacks, runs his hands through wet hair and thinks sad thoughts.
Thats the difference - the media love it.
A holes

 

[bad boy bubby]

As for lack of accountability in here, he's not on anywhere near the money Nicho is on.
That's the criteria, isn't it?

Whose criteria? Not mine.
I'm tired of talking of this so it will be my last time in doing so.
We are a small club, our cap is not like the space other clubs can be at. Third parties, brown paper bags etc.
Unfortunately we have to take into consideration the fact Hynes brings into the club way more than the 1M he's on through being everywhere in advertising in the NRL competition, and what it does for aramex and their sponsorship.
Do I personally think he is worth that many in regard to the team? absolutely-fecking-not, 800k tops only due to his couple of decent seasons, on todays playing? back top his 600k.
As for Tricky, he has only himself to blame for not getting a higher wage.
I'll let you in on something, last years indiscretion was not his first, it was just the first to be public, and by far the worst. He had been a bit of a problem for a little while and it came to where it was always going to, and he did it in his contract year. Cost him a few hundred K in my opinion, and the club has taken a small gamble to see if he has taken control of his issues.

If we talk of playing ability just for the team, at the moment I see them as pretty even, if we talk of worth to the club as a whole than Hynes is way above, and I don't even like Hynes, these are the facts though.

 

[DJDL]

Whose criteria? Not mine.
I'm tired of talking of this so it will be my last time in doing so.
We are a small club, our cap is not like the space other clubs can be at. Third parties, brown paper bags etc.
Unfortunately we have to take into consideration the fact Hynes brings into the club way more than the 1M he's on through being everywhere in advertising in the NRL competition, and what it does for aramex and their sponsorship.
Do I personally think he is worth that many in regard to the team? absolutely-fecking-not, 800k tops only due to his couple of decent seasons, on todays playing? back top his 600k.
As for Tricky, he has only himself to blame for not getting a higher wage.
I'll let you in on something, last years indiscretion was not his first, it was just the first to be public, and by far the worst. He had been a bit of a problem for a little while and it came to where it was always going to, and he did it in his contract year. Cost him a few hundred K in my opinion, and the club has taken a small gamble to see if he has taken control of his issues.

If we talk of playing ability just for the team, at the moment I see them as pretty even, if we talk of worth to the club as a whole than Hynes is way above, and I don't even like Hynes, these are the facts though.

Not having a go at you.
I was pointing out that there are many in here who use that as logic, and the reason Tricky has escaped criticism.

The most recent example I can think of is Ronnie.

When his contract negotiations were seemingly protracted, there was a narrative in here of "piss him off, Stonestreet's better value for money".

While that may be true, Stonestreet's form across the trials, and on the weekend, suggest he's nowhere near the level of Ronnie, or Katoa for that matter. He may warm to it, but at this point he's got a long way to go.

A similar line was trotted out in favour of selling Nicho off and promoting DA.
While I agree Nicho's contract is looking increasingly like a noose around our neck, DA has proven himself to not even be in the same stratosphere as Nicho.
But he's on SFA, right? So he's beyond critique.

 

[bad boy bubby]

Not having a go at you.
I was pointing out that there are many in here who use that as logic, and the reason Tricky has escaped criticism.

The most recent example I can think of is Ronnie.

When his contract negotiations were seemingly protracted, there was a narrative in here of "piss him off, Stonestreet's better value for money".

While that may be true, Stonestreet's form across the trials, and on the weekend, suggest he's nowhere near the level of Ronnie, or Katoa for that matter. He may warm to it, but at this point he's got a long way to go.

A similar line was trotted out in favour of selling Nicho off and promoting DA.
While I agree Nicho's contract is looking increasingly like a noose around our neck, DA has proven himself to not even be in the same stratosphere as Nicho.
But he's on SFA, right? So he's beyond critique.

Totally fair points mate. I did misunderstand your post.
As far as DA goes, I think the No.14 should be a horses for courses spot, not guaranteed, I personally would have preferred Tuuks in there on the weekend.

 

[Craigshark]

I might be one of the only ones left. I’m still backing nicho to tear plenty of teams to shreds this year and if we win the gf and 650k trindall is the man of the match and 1M Hynes drops a kick off, I couldn’t give a f**k. I think the combination has it in them. I’ll back Fitzy.

 

[DJDL]

I might be one of the only ones left. I’m still backing nicho to tear plenty of teams to shreds this year and if we win the gf and 650k trindall is the man of the match and 1M Hynes drops a kick off, I couldn’t give a f**k. I think the combination has it in them. I’ll back Fitzy.

I hope you’re right.
I agree Nicho has it in him, so let’s hope we can see it more regularly, and not just against the lesser lights.

My concern with his contract is not so much the price, but the length.
Another 5 years at 1mio+ just doesn’t look justified at the moment.

 

[DJDL]

As far as DA goes, I think the No.14 should be a horses for courses spot, not guaranteed, I personally would have preferred Tuuks in there on the weekend.

Agreed on all that, except I don’t think DA makes a good 14.
If we’re looking for someone to play the role he does, Hohepa is a better choice IMHO.
Or Dykes when he’s fit for that matter.

DA’s best position is left right out.

 

[R-15-3]

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[Special K]

I personally would have preferred Tuuks in there on the weekend.

I agree but

AFB - 54 minutes
Kaufusi - 33 minutes
BHU - 27 minutes
Hazo - 31 minutes

Throw these middles in as well
McInnes - 53 minutes
Talakai - 29 minutes

Akko had 13 minutes. Panthers targeted Hazo/AFB for a try in the middle. If we had Tuku on and Kaufusi playing lock for example is that too immobile? I don't know. Guess depends who we play like you said. Wilton and Nikora are going 80. Sifa can cover an injury there. But having Cam, Sif and Akko rotate at 13 doesn't work for me.

I think we have the best bench in the NRL if we can get the minutes right. Sifa needs more. AFB needs to be out there. BHU/Hazo/Kaufusi we need to work out how to rotate. It might take a few weeks. Toby and JC waiting around to get into the 17.

 

[Stake Removed]

I agree but

AFB - 54 minutes
Kaufusi - 33 minutes
BHU - 27 minutes
Hazo - 31 minutes

Throw these middles in as well
McInnes - 53 minutes
Talakai - 29 minutes

Akko had 13 minutes. Panthers targeted Hazo/AFB for a try in the middle. If we had Tuku on and Kaufusi playing lock for example is that too immobile? I don't know. Guess depends who we play like you said. Wilton and Nikora are going 80. Sifa can cover an injury there. But having Cam, Sif and Akko rotate at 13 doesn't work for me.

I think we have the best bench in the NRL if we can get the minutes right. Sifa needs more. AFB needs to be out there. BHU/Hazo/Kaufusi we need to work out how to rotate. It might take a few weeks. Toby and JC waiting around to get into the 17.

I would.like Tuuks on bench.
You can have AFB play 60 - 65 mins
Tuuks comes on about 10 from half time plays another 7-10 second half AFB back on.
It's getting the rotation right around Kaufisi and Cam

 

[R-15-3]

I’d prefer Talakai starting at 13 and told to go absolute nuts for a short stint, feel Cams hit ups don’t work against fresh middles and would work better from the bench.
Would help keep the ruck tight when AFB comes off.
Talakai can then get splinters as injury cover or a late stint.

 

[Get_Sharked]

Talakai is a massive luxury off the bench and really lifts the intensity when the starters from both teams are off. I hate that he’s only out there for 30 minutes though.

 

[Cheese sandwich]

We also don't want to burn AFB out playing him 70 minutes every week, the premiership is becoming more of a gruelling marathon every year, see teams just completely spent by finals time more than ever with the pace of the game.

 

[bad boy bubby]

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