Game of Thrones II

[hineyrulz]

He never wanted to kill the previous King, he only did it because he went mad and tried to burn the city to the ground.

If Cersei has found caches of wildfire and is burning the city down in a fit of madness, he may repeat his earlier actions - especially if one of the casualties is their only remaining child.

Yep, and in the books they are a lot further apart then they are in the show.

If it is between her and their son and the city i think Jamie will do his duty and do her in.

 

[Aragorn]

Yep, and in the books they are a lot further apart then they are in the show.

If it is between her and their son and the city i think Jamie will do his duty and do her in.

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Jamie was willing to catapult a little boy into a castle, kill every man alive , and move mountains if needed to get back to Cersi. Why would he want to kill her simply because she was getting revenge on the high Septon? And remember killing the mad king gave Cersi the opportunity to become Queen. I thought that was why he really did it. It wasn't for some moral high ground reason that lots of innocent people would die. He's not a man of morals or decency. Or is that the new twist? After Riverrun and getting lectured from Edmund, he suddenly got a conscience and wanted to be come truly decent? and that meant killing the only person he loved? maybe, although I prefer he stayed strong as a villain and not turn into a confused fruit cake....

 

[Timbo]

I think if Cersei in burning Kings Landing accidentally kills Tommen it will break Jaime. Especially after what happened with Myrcella.

He will then kill Cersei as she's gone mad, and commit suicide out of grief.

That's my theory.

 

[hineyrulz]

I think if Cersei in burning Kings Landing accidentally kills Tommen it will break Jaime. Especially after what happened with Myrcella.

He will then kill Cersei as she's gone mad, and commit suicide out of grief.

That's my theory.

Mine as well, just cant wait to find out.

 

[Aragorn]

I think if Cersei in burning Kings Landing accidentally kills Tommen it will break Jaime. Especially after what happened with Myrcella.

He will then kill Cersei as she's gone mad, and commit suicide out of grief.

That's my theory.

Well, I'd rather he f**k her rather than kill her. More enjoyable for everyone involved. And the f**kfest would be for a legitimate reason to get her pregnant again.

 

[saint.nick]

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Jamie was willing to catapult a little boy into a castle, kill every man alive , and move mountains if needed to get back to Cersi. Why would he want to kill her simply because she was getting revenge on the high Septon? And remember killing the mad king gave Cersi the opportunity to become Queen. I thought that was why he really did it. It wasn't for some moral high ground reason that lots of innocent people would die. He's not a man of morals or decency. Or is that the new twist? After Riverrun and getting lectured from Edmund, he suddenly got a conscience and wanted to be come truly decent? and that meant killing the only person he loved? maybe, although I prefer he stayed strong as a villain and not turn into a confused fruit cake....

There is no twist, he is honourable to a good extent and always has been - he was also just a bit of a wanker. He doesn't believe in the word honour, he just believes in what he thinks is right and wrong. The word disillusions him because 'honour' would have meant just letting Aerys blow up an entire city of innocent people. I don't think Robert was even betrothed to Cersei at that time.

After his imprisonment and losing his hand, he didn't become more honourable, he just became more humble, because he *was* that hand.

As for the threat to catapult a little boy, we don't know for sure if it was just an empty threat.

 

[Aragorn]

There is no twist, he is honourable to a good extent and always has been - he was also just a bit of a wanker. He doesn't believe in the word honour, he just believes in what he thinks is right and wrong. The word disillusions him because 'honour' would have meant just letting Aerys blow up an entire city of innocent people. I don't think Robert was even betrothed to Cersei at that time.

After his imprisonment and losing his hand, he didn't become more honourable, he just became more humble, because he *was* that hand.

As for the threat to catapult a little boy, we don't know for sure if it was just an empty threat.

I'm not talking about honor, I'm talking about morals and decency. He's probably very much an honorable man. After all, a Lannister always pays right? he justifies killing using his family name. That is honor with no morals. Incest only happens to people with no morals. If you refer back to the Edmund Tully scene, Edmund asks Jamie, how he lives with himself - he questions Jamies "decency" - which is a question not of honor, but a question of morals. My take on Jamies answer is that he's basically saying he has no morals. He would happily kill every man in sight if that was what he needed to do. Morals is not in his vocabulary. To then turn around and say he kills the only women he loves to saves the lives of others contradicts the character completely. Yes, he lost his hand, yes he was taken prisoner, and yes, maybe he has a bit of self doubt, but make no mistake, what is driving his very existence at the moment is his love for Cersi and getting back to her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8eDZnqi_Rg

 

[DiegoNT]

I think if Cersei in burning Kings Landing accidentally kills Tommen it will break Jaime. Especially after what happened with Myrcella.

He will then kill Cersei as she's gone mad, and commit suicide out of grief.

That's my theory.

at this stage in the books there's a real hatred between cersei and jamie. Whether the show goes down this route is still unknown. Hearing that Cersei was f**king Lancel while he was locked in a stark cell my trigger him.

 

[saint.nick]

Dude...honour and morals are the same thing.

 

[Aragorn]

Lets also not forget this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOLN08Gdo-U

Anyone still think he's a man of morals and decency? He's honorable to his sister. I'll give him that much. But pushing a 10 year old out the window right after f**king your sister? that's a stretch.

at this stage in the books there's a real hatred between cersei and jamie. Whether the show goes down this route is still unknown. Hearing that Cersei was f**king Lancel while he was locked in a stark cell my trigger him.

Despite Cersi and Jamie drifting apart in the books, you certainly don't get that impression on TV. Same with Cersi f**king Lancel? You don't get that sort of vibe between the two on the screen. Lancel acts like a total prick and Cersi looks ready to rip his head off - unless you actually mean Loras Tyrell?? the gay dude?

 

[butchmcdick]

As long as Ramsey's death is slow and very painful.

Fed to the hounds like his brother/step mum ?

Fed to the wolf maybe ?

 

[butchmcdick]

Well, I'd rather he f**k her rather than kill her. More enjoyable for everyone involved. And the f**kfest would be for a legitimate reason to get her pregnant again.

Why not both ?

I'll see myself out

 

[BennyV]

Fed to the hounds like his brother/step mum ?

Fed to the wolf maybe ?

If (when) Ramsay dies, the only way I'll be happy with it is if Sansa kills him or has some hand in it. I'd like Ghost to rip apart his hounds, but I can't see that happening. But yeah, if Sansa does it then that would be weapon.

And a murder/suicide with Jamie and Cersei would be interesting, but to me that feels like a bit of a buzzkill and pointless end to basically everything that is going on in Kings Landing and the way it ties in to the rest of the story.

 

[saint.nick]

No, leave the hounds alone.

 

[DlEHARD]

Great idea on Ghost chewing up the hounds. That'd be rich justice.

 

[Aragorn]

No slow death for me. I ain't got time. No one has. Winter is coming.

All I want to see is Ramsays smurky expression followed by his head detaching from his body curtiousy of Valaryan steel. For that to happen, Jon snow has to be the butcher although the thought of Sansa killing Ramsay would be nice.

I think something like Ramsay killing Ghost and then turning to Sansa with that smirky smile right before Jon brutually chops his head off is the way to go.

The hounds fighting over Ramsay after would be sweet justice also. Maybe one running off with his arm or something....whatever happens, LORD RAMSAY MUST DIE.

Also after much thought I'm doubtful Sansa will die. If she does, there will be no stark name to unite the North. It also means Little Finger and the Vale become a mute point. Sansa is LF's puppet. Without Sansa his role and little to zero meaning. For that reason she lives.

I reckon the Giants a goner though. He's too big to fit inside Winterfell.

 

[Timbo]

Also after much thought I'm doubtful Sansa will die. If she does, there will be no stark name to unite the North. It also means Little Finger and the Vale become a mute point. Sansa is LF's puppet. Without Sansa his role and little to zero meaning. For that reason she lives.

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Brann/Arya?

 

[Aragorn]

Yeah, pood point. But Arya is too much of a Tom boy assasin to be queen. As for Bran - that boy has issues. I can picture him strapped up in mental asylum more than I can picture him a King. And my argument about Little Finger is still valid.

Btw, anyone know why he's called little finger? is it in reference to his pecker? I'm just curious.

 

[DiegoNT]

Lets also not forget this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOLN08Gdo-U

Anyone still think he's a man of morals and decency? He's honorable to his sister. I'll give him that much. But pushing a 10 year old out the window right after f**king your sister? that's a stretch.



Despite Cersi and Jamie drifting apart in the books, you certainly don't get that impression on TV. Same with Cersi f**king Lancel? You don't get that sort of vibe between the two on the screen. Lancel acts like a total prick and Cersi looks ready to rip his head off - unless you actually mean Loras Tyrell?? the gay dude?

You do realise Lancel has already slept with cersie during season 2. And with a trial to be held and lancel as the crowns star witness, it's going to come out to the entire court what cersei has done.

 

[Aragorn]

You do realise Lancel has already slept with cersie during season 2. And with a trial to be held and lancel as the crowns star witness, it's going to come out to the entire court what cersei has done.

Thanks. I somehow missed that!

Ok, Jamie killing Cersei when finding out about this makes a hell of a lot more sense now......