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Game of Thrones II

Tommy Smith

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Yeah Dany is pretty f**ked atm. She needs to be more ruthless.

I'd say she could desperately do with Dario and his Second Sons back by her side. And Jorah ASAP.

Basically a couple of warriors and elite military minds because with Jaimie, Euron and now Randall Tarley on the other side she's out gunned as far as military acumen is concerned and it's showing.
 

Pete Cash

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Its actually starting to get to me how dumb this show is at the moment. Im enjoying it as a spectacle but the laws of time and space have been just chucked out the window.

Its actually pretty funny if anyone is familiar with the novels. Old grum has spent like a decade trying to work out how to get snowflake off meereen and to tie her into the main narrative and now the show has people just literally appearing where they are needed.

I dont understand the Casterly Rock plan at all. If Euron was there the whole time why didnt he just sink the unsullied boats before they attacked the castle ? Was cersei like no i think for the plan to be at its most effective we need to make the unsullied think they won for some reason.

Also how dumb is tyrion ? Completely outplayed by his sister. She literally gave up casterly rock to sack highgarden (which is about 900 kms away but im sure the lannister army just drove across westeros ?). Halfman more like half brain. They clearly should have just swept down the blackwater with the entire army with the dragons as suppory to handle any attack by sea
 

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Its actually starting to get to me how dumb this show is at the moment. Im enjoying it as a spectacle but the laws of time and space have been just chucked out the window.

Its actually pretty funny if anyone is familiar with the novels. Old grum has spent like a decade trying to work out how to get snowflake off meereen and to tie her into the main narrative and now the show has people just literally appearing where they are needed.

I dont understand the Casterly Rock plan at all. If Euron was there the whole time why didnt he just sink the unsullied boats before they attacked the castle ? Was cersei like no i think for the plan to be at its most effective we need to make the unsullied think they won for some reason.

Also how dumb is tyrion ? Completely outplayed by his sister. She literally gave up casterly rock to sack highgarden (which is about 900 kms away but im sure the lannister army just drove across westeros ?). Halfman more like half brain. They clearly should have just swept down the blackwater with the entire army with the dragons as suppory to handle any attack by sea

I'm wondering how much time has passed during episodes 2 and 3.

Jon has made it a very long way during that time, as have Euron and the unsullied.
 

Game_Breaker

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Best to assume the show just skipped all the travel time. No point showing Jon on a dingy or Jamie on horseback for half an episode

Only 4 episodes left of this season and 6 for next season, so 10 episodes left for the whole series, they need to cover a lot of ground
 

Pete Cash

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I'm wondering how much time has passed during episodes 2 and 3.

Jon has made it a very long way during that time, as have Euron and the unsullied.

Euron and jaime were in kings landing this episode. In real life navies have got lucky and unlucky with the wind. So i can maybe buy the unsullied were unlucky while euron got good conditions. That still doesnt explain why euron didnt just sink the unsullied boats when he had the chance. He would be a much better naval commander.

Jaime though its even further from kings landing to highgarden than it is from the rock to highgarden. Even if he sailed from kings landing he would still need to walk up from dorne.

Also why does dorne only have 4 women as an army and why did they accept a prostitute as leader when she killed the prince ?

Like yeah im acting a bit like a sperg here but its difficult not to ask these questions. The elephant in the room is the incompetency of dany not just going straight down the blackwater. Stannis almost took KL with a much smaller army doing just that. If she had done this her dragons would have burnt down eurons navy and it would have saved her a lot of hassle.

Tyrion lannister you are officially the geek of the week
 

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Best to assume the show just skipped all the travel time. No point showing Jon on a dingy or Jamie on horseback for half an episode

Only 4 episodes left of this season and 6 for next season, so 10 episodes left for the whole series, they need to cover a lot of ground
I think there is also talk about a movie...
 

Pete Cash

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Best to assume the show just skipped all the travel time. No point showing Jon on a dingy or Jamie on horseback for half an episode

Only 4 episodes left of this season and 6 for next season, so 10 episodes left for the whole series, they need to cover a lot of ground

I dont want them to show people travelling lol but i want stuff to make sense. Dragonstone and the port at kings landing are essentially right next to each other. So neither side should really have a time advantage. Ill retract my complaint if next week it wasnt euron leading the attack and he is still in KL because pyke is right next to casterly rock. So maybe he left a reserve navy there

But again it has to be asked how dumb is tyrion who would know this and he also knew euron was seeking out an alliance. Can anyone explain how his plan made sense ???
 

Generalzod

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I dont want them to show people travelling lol but i want stuff to make sense. Dragonstone and the port at kings landing are essentially right next to each other. So neither side should really have a time advantage. Ill retract my complaint if next week it wasnt euron leading the attack and he is still in KL because pyke is right next to casterly rock. So maybe he left a reserve navy there

But again it has to be asked how dumb is tyrion who would know this and he also knew euron was seeking out an alliance. Can anyone explain how his plan made sense ???
Also how long does it take to mine dragon stone?? buy the time it's first mineral is collected the whole f**king war will be over lol
 

Game_Breaker

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I dont want them to show people travelling lol but i want stuff to make sense. Dragonstone and the port at kings landing are essentially right next to each other. So neither side should really have a time advantage. Ill retract my complaint if next week it wasnt euron leading the attack and he is still in KL because pyke is right next to casterly rock. So maybe he left a reserve navy there

But again it has to be asked how dumb is tyrion who would know this and he also knew euron was seeking out an alliance. Can anyone explain how his plan made sense ???

Same thing happend in the final episode of last season. Varys was Dorne forging an alliance with the sand snakes and Olenna
Then a couple of scenes later he's on a ship with Dany sailing from Mereen to dragonstone. That one really doesn't make sense

But the others I just assume the scenes are not happening as fast as we think they are and there is a lot of 'time' just not shown
 

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Im happy to watch entertaining schlock. I think i just sperged out when ibm was like bravo bravo d and d you are true artists.

Bran rocking up and heading straight for the weirwood tree is like when friends come over and they immediately ask for the wifi password.

There is a fine line between genius and madness and it was shown by whoever wrote that scene. It was certainly entertaining to see bran explain his powers by apparently shooting up heroin and admitting that he is a peeping tom but i dont know if it made the most sense.

The three eye crow has turned him into some kind of autistic....i guess its the westeros vaccine am i rite
 
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Aragorn

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Im happy to watch entertaining schlock. I think i just sperged out when ibm was like bravo bravo d and d you are true artists.

Bran rocking up and heading straight for the weirwood tree is like when friends come over and they immediately ask for the wifi password.

There is a fine line between genius and madness and it was shown by whoever wrote that scene. It was certainly entertaining to see bran explain his powers by apparently shooting up heroin and admitting that he is a peeping tom but i dont know if it made the most sense.

The three eye crow has turned him into some kind of autistic....i guess its the westeros vaccine am i rite

I liked it. No time to shit around. The tree is symbolic and his comment to Sansa about her wedding night was creepy as f**k. But thats essentially what he now is. A weirdo that can see into the past and future.

Poor Sansa. Thought she'd get her brother back. Instead its some horny teenager who likes to watch rape and bondage.

Not much action this episode. Expect the shit to hit the fan next week.

I want to see these dragons in action.
 
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Aragorn

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God Littlefinger makes me nervous. Something bad will happen at winter fell.

With Bran there it's so obvious he'll spill the beans about LF betraying Ned. Arya shows up next episode and I suspect LF be on her hit list once she finds out all the shit he did at Kings Landing.

The starks are one seriously dis functional family though. Brans a flaky weirdo. Arya an assassin. Sansa a tortured maiden. And to top it off, a bastard brother who happens to be the king of the 7 kingdoms.
 

beave

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They're doing another HBO show called Confederate. A show set in the present day US where slavery was never abolished. Has caused quite the stir over there.

TBH,paid slavery was never abolished in the States they just turned it into the US military and allowed everyone to join........
 

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