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Gasnier signing 3 years with the Dragons?

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Poore was on $200,000+ and offered $250,000+.
Sailor was on ~$150,000 plus incentives which I'm pretty sure he deservedly earned.

$150k my arse for sailor he would have been on minimum contract and thats it, no other club wanted a bar of him.

Poore would have been on $100-$150k when he signed his previous contract for the Dragons at his age and level.
 

boonboon

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I understand this working for the Dragons because what you must understand is they have a lot of fairly average players and an amazing coach - even the Origin players in their team are fringe Origin Players- Creagh, Cooper, Scott arent exactly big money stars and no one would have wanted Scott a couple of yrs ago
 

Rodent

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The only thing "special" about the Dragons, is the effort they put in. Against the sharks it was just gutsy hard working defence that was good. Not really "skills" that bring big $ on the player market.
 

brendothejet

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Entire Forum: "Saints players are rubbish"

Saints Fans: "no they arent"

Entire Forum: "Saints are over the cap. Look at all these awesome players you have"

Saints Fans: "Huh?"
 

Fibroman

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You mean I finally took the time to take notice of you? lol

Don't worry, Dragqueens are well down on my 'hate list'. Manly, Rorters, Storm, Brisbane and Parramatta are all more disgraceful than big dell's dragon house.
 

maestro1

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Wrong wrong wrong

Stanley was on about 200K he was resigned almost str8 after he made his NZ debut in his first season

Sailor and Porre would have been on more than 100k

Head and Paea would have been on about 80k (guessing)

Whare and Linnet would have probably been base contracts or outside top 25 unsure


Poore was on $240,000. Hw was offered $350,000 by the eels and Bennett told him arrivederci......
 

maestro1

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1. Darius - came over as a major signing for the 2009 season. He came as a winger. Probably signed for about $240,000.
2. Brett Morris - was in and out of the Shellharbour team when Bennett arrived. $120,000
3. Beau Scott - Struggling to hold a spot in the Dragons top squad under Browny. $120,000
4. Cooper - 31 year old rep centre who made it quite clear he never wanted to leave the Dragons. Signed on for a lot less than clubs like the Bulldogs and Roosters were offering at the time (Gus is a huge fan). $300,000
5. Nightingale - Couldn't crack a top spot in 2009. $100,000
6. Jamie Soward - Couldn't hold his spot for the semis, under Browny. Only just put pen to paper on a new contract and was quoted as saying he didn't want to play under another coach. Ricky Stuart made him gun shy and sapped all his confidence. - $280,000
7. Ben Hornby - Never a star, always the tradesman. Always loyal and will not ever play against the Dragons. Signed for much less than his value.......$220,000
8. Michael weyman - Bought from the scrap heap. Career was going nowhere fast. $150,000 bargain.
9. Luke priddis - I don't think Bennet would be silly enough to give a 33 year old hooker too much sign-on. - $180,000.
10. Dan Hunt - Was barely a bench player prior to Bennett. Only got a few runs due to injuries to Poore and Ryles in 2008. $180,000.
11. Jeremy Smith - A fairly major signing in 2009. $300,000.
12. Ben Creagh - Knocked back big offers from just about everyone, especially the Eagles to stay in the 'Gong. Took unders to stay here. $300,000.
13. Dean Young - Came back from a near season ending knee injury and had major complications (golden staf, etc). The injury nearly ended his career. He will probably never leave the gong. No need to...money is not a problem, owns a pub in the gong. Stayed for heaps less than his value. - $200,000.
14. Matt Prior - 2009 was his break out year and he is a local Thirroul boy who loves it at the Dragons and under Bennett. Won't be going anywhere, unless forced out. Honets toiler, but definitely no superstar. $180,000.
15. Neville Costigan - Rescued from the scrap heap by Bennett. Playing local league in Canberra. Absolute bargain - $80,000
16. Trent Merrin - Just signed a new contract for unders. Quoted as saying he has learnt so much under Bennett and signed for heaps less to stay under the master and local.Lives in Shellharbour. $150,000
17. Nick Emmett, Michael Greenfield, Ricky Thorby, Jon Green, Peni tagive, all bargain buys. Emmett was playing QLD cup, Greenfield had just missed two seasons with injuries, Ricky Thorby paid for his own flight from NZ to trial with the Dragons, Jon Green is an honets plodder who noone knew 1 year ago, Tagive was coming of two injury riddled seasons. On average these guys would be on about $65,000 each

#Nathan Fien was bought mid-season from the local comp in auckland. He couldn't make the Warriors squad. $100,000

that leaves another 8 players on minimum - Players such as Marleto, Beau Henry, Michael Lett etc.....$55,000 each.

Forget about how goood these guys are now. They didn't all sign new contracts a month ago. Most of them were locked in to 32 and 3 year deals when they were unknown or injured or playing park footy. What you guys saying that the "Dragons are over the cap" need to realise is that at the time of signing their current contracts, most were barely first graders or were on the scrap heap. The problems will start when players like Scott, Prior, Green, Hunt, etc have to sign new contracts. There value has gone up under Bennett and they will command the appropriate upgrade. But what Bennet will do is what he always does....identify a player like Greenfield who showed heaps of potential as an up and comer, but has had a bad run with injuries. Or he'll look for a player like Weyman, who is on the outer at his club. He'll get him cheap and develop him.

If you look at these players closely, there are definitley no Thurstan, Hayne, Slater, Inglis type superstars. They are all players that have fitted well into a very good team. Take the individual out and put him in another team and he may struccle.....see Justin Poore. Under Brown and Anderson, he struggled. Under Bennett he flourished..........It is the team and Bennett that makes these guys seem better than they are.
 

maestro1

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Smith is going to England next year...they are offering him between 350 and 400k. 100k more than we pay him.

Priddis will also be gone at the end of this season.

thats frees up money very easily for gaz.

if is is seriously back ended, Cooper and Hornby gone the following year and Young and Creagh will then be getting the long serving player bonus.

Boyd came to our club as a winger.

IMO we have change left over in coming seasons, unless we offer Kyle Stanley a lot of cash to stay long term!

Great to have Gaz back....good to have a legitimate game breaker to turn too when we may need it later in the year. gna be scary seeing he and Soward tearing up that right edge...Should stop Soward throwing to many cut out passes! lol.


The signing of Gaz is more exciting due to the fact that he was an amazing attacking centre at the Dragons when we were ill-disciplined and gave away stacks of possession through penalties and the stupid dropped balls. Our teams under Browny were always fatigued as other teams wore us down by waiting for our errors. Under Bennett we are doing this to other teams. We have achieved amazing possession stats, bnever recorded in the NRL prior to 2010. With this amount of possession, the teams Gaz will face every week will be back peddling and we all know what Gasnier does to back peddling defenders. In the past, the defenders have been fresh from our stupid errors. From now on, if we maintain our completion rates, Gasnier will destroy teams in the last 20 minutes of games.
 

aussie7798

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$150k my arse for sailor he would have been on minimum contract and thats it, no other club wanted a bar of him.
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That would have been the case for his fist year at the club when he joined mid season and played for match payments after that he would have been easily over 100k he was one of the form wingers in the comp f#$%s sake
 

Timmah

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Gasnier Deal's Details Hinge On Meeting Of Club Chiefs - Back Round 17

The Sydney Morning Herald
GLENN JACKSON
June 22, 2010

ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA are edging closer to signing their prodigal son Mark Gasnier - possibly in time to play Penrith in round 17 - and the final details of the intricate deal with the former Test centre are set to be clinched at today's chief executives' conference.

The meeting between the club bosses, at the NRL headquarters at Moore Park, is likely to prove crucial in finalising the Gasnier deal, said his agent George Mimis.

Mimis, as well as the Dragons, have denied suggestions that a contract has already been lodged with the NRL, awaiting final approval.

Rather, it is believed that the two parties have remained in fairly constant dialogue over the final points of the expected three-year deal.

Mimis said yesterday he wanted to wait until today's meeting of the club bosses - during which some finality may be given to future salary cap changes - before he agreed to any deal for Gasnier, who quit the Dragons to play rugby union with Stade Francais.

''There's been lots of dialogue about the contract structures but no contract's been lodged [with the NRL],'' Mimis said last night.

Asked if today's chief executives' conference could be crucial in finally ending the speculation surrounding Gasnier, Mimis said: ''Correct.''

Mimis, however, admitted the negotiations were being delayed by the protracted discussions with the NRL over third-party deals as well as the issue of how much of Gasnier's contract would have to be included in this year's salary cap.

Asked when he expected the deal to be done, Mimis said: ''That's a question that's better posed to the NRL or the salary cap auditor. We're waiting for them to clarify a few things.''

While some at Wests Tigers even believed Gasnier might sign in time to play in Friday night's blockbuster against the Dragons at Kogarah, a more likely scenario would have the 28-year-old making his club return against the Panthers a week later.

The meeting between the club chiefs, and the discussion over salary cap changes will also have wider implications for rugby league.

With decisions expected on changes to third-party deals, long-serving player concessions, bulked up representative payments and cap increases, the meeting stands to be one of the more crucial in recent times, given the pressure on the NRL to stop the game's stars quitting the competition and even the code.

Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys said he expected ''that we would have some reasonable level of agreement on the areas that will be modified in the cap - both in terms of the numbers but also the areas of concessions, how they may work in the future''.

''I'd like to leave the meeting with, if not a definitive idea of where we're going next year, at least a pretty decent idea, so we can all start planning for next year,'' Humphreys said.

''Because the clock's ticking. I'd like to think that we can come out and say we have a way forward that is better than where we are now.''

The clubs are also expected to express their frustration over the stalled independent commission.

Chief executives are also expected to discuss the racial vilification furore surrounding Andrew Johns and the NSW State of Origin camp.

Mimis, meanwhile, will meet with Luke Patten tonight as the Bulldogs fullback weighs up Super League offers. Mimis has received offers from several clubs, including Huddersfield and Patten is considering ending his career with the Bulldogs a year early.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-on-meeting-of-club-chiefs-20100621-yscb.html

 

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