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Discussion in 'Penrith Panthers' started by OldPanther, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. franklin2323

    franklin2323 Referee

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    Hopefully Kent isn't a pussy and puts all those points in that article to Ivan.
     
  2. Thirsty Panther

    Thirsty Panther Juniors

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    Or the question I would like would be " Do you think Nathans game has improved since you have been coaching him?"
     
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  3. Fangs

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    Hoping for a bit of banter. Ivan deserves criticism but so does Kent. He embarrassed himself last week.

    Should be a fun contest. Better than the Dogs game.
     
  4. Panther_Daz

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    I mentioned on this forum a few times that Gus had nothing to do with bringing Ivan Cleary back. This was confirmed by Ivan tonight. The decision was Dave O'Neill's. Gus never wanted Ivan back.
     
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  5. BxTom

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    Gus made mistakes, everyone does. But none of his mistakes were THIS monumental.
     
  6. Panther_Daz

    Panther_Daz Moderator Staff Member

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    I just think it was unfair that Gus took the blame publicly for this apparent approached to Ivan when he had a contract with the Tigers. All of this while the actual culprit O'Neill hid in the background.

    Gus never wanted Ivan back. He saw how he was ruining the development of kids last time and didn't want that anywhere near the club again.
     
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  7. herbert henry1908

    herbert henry1908 Coach

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    Cleary also blamed our roster for the season we’ve had, and specifically said “it’s not my roster”

    Yet Hook did ok with it.
     
  8. Panther_Daz

    Panther_Daz Moderator Staff Member

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    The players still at the club must love the fact that their coach doesn't have full confidence in them.
     
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  9. herbert henry1908

    herbert henry1908 Coach

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    Sincere question. How was Cleary ruining the development of kids last time?
     
  10. franklin2323

    franklin2323 Referee

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    We did see holes in the roster but we are still 2-3 wins behind where it should be
     
  11. Pomoz

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    I already thought Gus was smart, his IQ has just gone up a few notches in my estimation.
     
  12. Pomoz

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    Really? I didn't see the interview. What a 24 carat, spineless muppet. That'll do me, a coach who doesn't hold himself accountable, can't coach attack and thinks Yeo in the centres is a good idea and dummy halves shouldn't run.
     
  13. herbert henry1908

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    You can see a bit of his answer here, but not the whole thing

     
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  14. CCJohnC

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    Same old Same old. Heard it all before.
     
  15. Panther_Daz

    Panther_Daz Moderator Staff Member

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    Gus was becoming very concerned on how they were training. He felt Ivan was not tough enough on the players and the young ones weren't being coached properly.
     
  16. Pomoz

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    That is exactly how they started the season. Unfit and soft.

    Bellamy, Bennett and Robinson are hard bastards. You need to be, to be successful. Accepting second best doesn't work, players have to be driven hard to help them be the best they can be. Being a good bloke just doesn't cut it.
     
  17. Pomoz

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    Ok, Im not reading anything after yeah, so thanks for agreeing with me.
     
  18. herbert henry1908

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    The schism between the board & Gus in their view of Ivan is quite significant really.
     
  19. OldPanther

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    To kick off 2018 Hook had Peter Wallace, Tyrone Peachey, Corey Harawira-Naera and Trent Merrin available. Ontop of them he had Tyrone May become available through the year.

    Our roster has gotten consistently weaker each season since 2016. 2016 was our peak roster with best depth. Losing experienced star after star and very rarely replacing them with experience rather than developing new guys ever since.

    Ivan can go eat a dick. But the roster Ivan had day one is very different from the one Hook had day one and our 2018 vs 2019 roster was pretty different even before Ivan decided to weaken it further.
     

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