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Great aticle Sean - on Big Footy too!

Loudstrat

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http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/...game-of-mumfriendly-soccer-20100612-y4r1.html

No place for Folau in game of mum-friendly soccer

SEAN FAGAN

June 13, 2010


So, with the signing of Israel Folau and Karmichael Hunt complete, the AFL now has its Ringling Brothers - two NRL stars to act as wandering AFL troubadours through western Sydney and the Gold Coast.
Although Folau is still a NRL player, his role has already begun.
Whenever he now leaps into the air to catch a Steeden, the accompanying written and spoken acclamations will assuredly include ''AFL'' in there somewhere … as if catching the ball was an unknown and unheralded feature of rugby league before last week's media frenzy.
And never mind that the ''mark'' Folau takes in league actually demands he keep hold of the ball if his effort is to be of any value, something that no longer seems to matter for the AFL ''speccy''.
On the other hand, if Izzy should tuck the ball under the arm and run, we will be reminded of what he won't be able to do in AFL.
Indeed, in commenting upon Cronulla fullback Nathan Gardner's incredible length-of-the-field solo try, the ABC's Melbourne-centric Offsiders panel chuckled in half-seriousness that "anybody can do that if you don't have to bounce the ball all the way".
Perhaps we should recall that in 1866 the need to bounce the ball (which wasn't particularly easy on uneven ground with a misshaped ball) was added to Australian rules to make it practically impossible to venture off on a long run while holding the ball instead of kicking it.
Nowadays, AFL players are so proficient at bouncing the ball, and run with the Sherrin so frequently and far, that William Webb Ellis would have willingly joined in. Bouncing the ball is now nothing more than a superfluous show, rather than an impediment meant to stop players from haring off on a ''rugby run''.
And what of the ubiquitous hand pass in AFL? One of the founding rules in 1859 was "the ball, while in play, may under no circumstances be thrown". Player ingenuity soon led to punching the ball to obviate the rule. Given they are all so good at the hand pass in the modern game, they might as well forget the flourish and throw it rugby-style anyway.
Which brings us back to the ''mark'' - a rule that existed in league until the 1960s and is just hanging on in union. Indeed, when the boys at Rugby School first put the game's laws down in writing, the ''fair catch'' rule was No.1. Its purpose was to ensure the well-being of a player who caught the ball - to save him from the opposing pack about to descend upon him.
How can anyone take seriously a code that has evolved a mercy rule into an art form?
But we all know that AFL is rapidly turning itself into mum-friendly soccer with a few handling rules added in for variety. While league, with all its imaginary dangers to the untrained eye, might sometimes give the appearance of being a caged gorilla, there's little doubt that AFL is hurriedly turning itself into a pet poodle.
Ever since the late 1870s the orbit of the Aussie Rules Comet has every few decades or so brought it close to Sydney. As the ''Australian rulers'' again faded into the dark after their 1903-07 passing, one letter writer to the Herald concluded: "The Victorian game may be the best game of football, but if it is so manifestly superior, one would fancy it could plead its own cause, and not require advertising like a quack pill."
Maybe AFL should examine poaching the concepts of rugby posts, off side, knock-ons and full-blooded tackling - then Hunt and Folau would be of some real use.

:clap::clap: Praise for the SMH for publishing it too!
 

Paullyboy

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Anytime he writes about anything, I make sure I read it, there is ALWAYS something of value in his stories/articles.
 

simostorm

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Maybe Gallop and the NRL should have made a deal to pay Izzy 6 mil to stay at the broncs for 4 years and only have 500k counted agaisnt the cap each season.

I got no problem with that if it meant keeping him in league.

He was man of the match last night. No way they would give him the award. It was always gunna go to Lockyer.
But Izzy dominated at both ends.
 

Paullyboy

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How the hell did you have him as man of the match last night? He was very good, but the entire QLD team falls into that category and there were a few others who were that little bit better.
 

Loudstrat

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Heather was sublime last night and deserved the award.

Folau aint worth 6 million for 4 years. Just because AFL throw their money away doesn't mean they get value for it.
 

Dr Crane

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"The Victorian game may be the best game of football, but if it is so manifestly superior, one would fancy it could plead its own cause, and not require advertising like a quack pill."

it's still true today.
 

simostorm

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Heather was sublime last night and deserved the award.

Folau aint worth 6 million for 4 years. Just because AFL throw their money away doesn't mean they get value for it.

Yep he deserved it. As did about 4 others.. I think Izzy played better tho.

He aint worth 6 mil. But if thats what it would have cost to keep him here. I would have had no problem with him gettin it. And i think he should have.

But the NRL isnt up to what the AFL is capable of doing.
 

Loudstrat

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Yep he deserved it. As did about 4 others.. I think Izzy played better tho.

He aint worth 6 mil. But if thats what it would have cost to keep him here. I would have had no problem with him gettin it. And i think he should have.

But the NRL isnt up to what the AFL is capable of doing.

Do that genius and about 20 other players would be asking "Where's my $6 million?" You'd send the game broke inside 6 months.

The NRL/ARL/NSWRL have never done anything like that - and thank god. Garrick Morgan aside, I honestly cannot recall in the codes history any similar account on wasting a fortune on one player in such spectacular fashion. The ARU learned the hard way with their $42 million world cup windfall thrown at Tequiri, Tingha et-al. Now the ARU look like Newtown on chook raffle night.

Let the AFL go broke on big, stupid signings on dumb stupid players.
 

j5o6hn

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The Mormons still get 10% of that money,mind you I read the book of Mormon once, had rellys joined it,you think Hubbard was good at making things up,hes not a patch on those blokes
 

simostorm

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Do that genius and about 20 other players would be asking "Where's my $6 million?" You'd send the game broke inside 6 months.

The NRL/ARL/NSWRL have never done anything like that - and thank god. Garrick Morgan aside, I honestly cannot recall in the codes history any similar account on wasting a fortune on one player in such spectacular fashion. The ARU learned the hard way with their $42 million world cup windfall thrown at Tequiri, Tingha et-al. Now the ARU look like Newtown on chook raffle night.

Let the AFL go broke on big, stupid signings on dumb stupid players.

Theres never been a player worth putting that much money into before dummy..

Izzy.. is a HUGE star.. they should have kept him. NRL = Dumb.
 

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Cheers to all for the positive comments. Appreciated.

A few critics of that article have suggested that if bouncing and fisting the ball in AFL no longer serve any useful purpose (other than a nod to tradition), can't the same be said of the RL scrum.

My reply to that is that the RL scrum still serves a useful purpose by opening up the field for attacking play from the scrum (or even potentially right through the middle of the scrum).

However, if it becomes the norm for the attacking team's halfback to just toss the ball from a scrum win to a big forward to plough it upfield, then I would 100% agree the scrum should be consigned to history.
 

Brutus

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Some of those Cronulla attacking scrum moves from the mid-90's were great to watch.

I remember they killed the Broncos with scrum moves in a semi at the SFS one day.

There should be more of it in the modern game.
 
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Theres never been a player worth putting that much money into before dummy..

Izzy.. is a HUGE star.. they should have kept him. NRL = Dumb.

no, you are wrong

we should not chase stars.

instead we should have a system that encourages them greatly to stay. but if they dont like it, see ya.

we should not pander to stars and chase them, and thus lose the power we have.

RL has made them stars, and if they turn their back from that, so be it. we should not chase after stars. we should be able to attract them.

lets not go for quick fixes or synthetic markets.
 
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GCR

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Theres never been a player worth putting that much money into before dummy..

Izzy.. is a HUGE star.. they should have kept him. NRL = Dumb.

No, he's not a HUGE star, he's nowhere near being one of the ten most popular players and would struggle to make it into the top 20.
 

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