Grey "cited" for racism

[Polynesian Warrior]

 

[taipan]

Even the journos are coming out now including Campese,Growden saying the 1 week for Shepherd is a joke.Now what would they know :lol:

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Now this week you trust the journos and next week the journos are liars . So which one is it ? #-o

 

[taipan]

The journos are not the only ones saying 1 week is pathetic,union mates are saying it is a slap on the wrist.
Mate I dont care whether union journos are lying,spinning on their thumbs on this issue or not,the penalty :lol: :lol: if you call it that, is there for all to see.
Your mate Fitzsimons who you reckon is the greatest jounalist ever to write on this planet,says it is a poor penalty.Is he wrong also?

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

Taipan ! What are your views on the South Sydney player racist remarks and what did you think of the punishment he got compare to what Harrison got ?

 

[taipan]

Taipan ! What are your views on the South Sydney player racist remarks and what did you think of the punishment he got compare to what Harrison got ?

PW(knew you would be having your usual jump in wetty).
Check my posting on another thread mate<I was not happy with 1 week ,he should have been out for the rest of the season.I also mentioned that his team South Sydney punished him a damn side quicker than Harrison was.Fletcher lost the captaincy and has been required to work with the aborigine community.Harrison got one extra week,never lost a captaincy (as he wasnt one) and where was he working with the aboriginal community.
Happy now ,? because it doesnt change my view on racism(you obviously havnt
you read my views on racism in the past).
I dont care whether they play rugby league ,union,AFL or soccer its not on.
If you continue to think its no big deal,then you are a worry.

 

[Tighthead]

Why would Harrison be required to work with the aboriginal community when the player he abused wasn't an aboriginal?

 

[Thomas]

I'm sure he did some work in an african township......

Could be wrong though

 

[taipan]

Why would Harrison be required to work with the aboriginal community when the player he abused wasn't an aboriginal?

What has that got to do with it,its about racism,some union apologists in the media made play of the fact that he had grown up with the aboriginals in the NT.He himself made the point.
The subject was punishment,I believe both he and Fletcher should have got more than 1 and 2 weeks although Fletcher lost the captaincy(a kick in the guts) .Fletcher is to work with the aboriginal community ,Harrison did not,and I dont see where he spent a great amount of time if at all helping the black community in SA.

 

[taipan]

I'm sure he did some work in an african township......

Could be wrong though

Probably made a guest appearance with the Tahs.

 

[Thomas]

You are determined to always hate union and the people that play it, aren't you Taipan?

 

[Thomas]

Here you go Taipan.


http://www.sportal.com.au/union.asp?i=news&id=63676

The SANZAR judicial committee has suspended Waratahs lock Justin Harrison for three matches for his racial slur against Cats winger Chumani Booi in South Africa last week.

He was also fined $20,000 for his comment, but the committee decided to suspend the payment upon the condition that Harrison completes an anti-discrimination course and serves 30 hours community service delivering anti-vilification workshops.

Harrison accepted the penalty saying he was ashamed of his actions.

"I am terribly ashamed of what has happened and I just ask that I get the chance to make, in some small way, some sort of amends of which I will spend the rest of my life attempting to do so," he said.



Harrison received written letters of character from Booi as well as several Wallaby teammates and in a statement told the committee he was 'profoundly sorry' for the chain of events he had caused.

"I am doing as much as I possibly can to, not halt them or hide from them, I am fronting the situation and attempting to ensure that not only will it never happen again in my life span, but hoping to prevent it happening to any other player in the future," his statement read.

Harrison, who was represented by Rugby Union Players Association chairman Tony Dempsey, said he could offer no real explanation for his comment.

"I can offer no real explanation as to why I said the words that I chose, except that it was by no means premeditated or a reflection of my beliefs, a reflection of my upbringing, a reflection of my regard for fellow players on the field and for my own team. It was an absolutely terrible attempt to get a reaction to the benefit of our team which was abhorrent and undeniably wrong," his statement read.

Dempsey said the suspension will cost Harrison $9000 in match payments and $11,000 in total.


I know your next comment is that they took a longer time to charge him than Fletcher, but the reality is that the NSWRU and ARU were unsure of who was responsible for charging him. In the end, the ARU being the national body did it. And we are only talking a few days here......

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

PW(knew you would be having your usual jump in wetty).
Check my posting on another thread mate<I was not happy with 1 week ,he should have been out for the rest of the season.I also mentioned that his team South Sydney punished him a damn side quicker than Harrison was.Fletcher lost the captaincy and has been required to work with the aborigine community.Harrison got one extra week,never lost a captaincy (as he wasnt one) and where was he working with the aboriginal community.
Happy now ,? because it doesnt change my view on racism(you obviously havnt
you read my views on racism in the past).
I dont care whether they play rugby league ,union,AFL or soccer its not on.
If you continue to think its no big deal,then you are a worry.

lol
Taipan your views on racism wasn't the issue . When the Harrison racism issue happen you were up in arms saying that there was a rule for rugby union players and a different rules for everyone .
You blame rugby top heads for Harrison not getting a stiffer sentence .

I think both players should be punish to the max . But blaming a sport or organisation for one or two players actions is wrong .

 

[Copa]

OMG... This thread has been dragged out of the archives.

 

[Tighthead]

He was also fined $20,000 for his comment, but the committee decided to suspend the payment upon the condition that Harrison completes an anti-discrimination course and serves 30 hours community service delivering anti-vilification workshops.

Hello? Taipan?

 

[taipan]

lol
Taipan your views on racism wasn't the issue . When the Harrison racism issue happen you were up in arms saying that there was a rule for rugby union players and a different rules for everyone .
You blame rugby top heads for Harrison not getting a stiffer sentence .

I think both players should be punish to the max . But blaming a sport or organisation for one or two players actions is wrong .

My views on racism is indeed part of the issue,as it is for society.I have not changed my view on Harrison,the gutless denial,the delay by the body involved.I said the penalty was ordinary,I at no stage asserted the NRL would come in with a life sentence. I criticised the rugby union for the leniency,and I have stated quite clearly that 1 week is not enough for Fletcher, and he should have got the season.He lost the captaincy which is also not exactly good for your image.It stays on the record for ever.
i am not blaming them for the actions of the players,I am blaming them for the penalties(there is a difference).the NRL should have stepped in and either added another fine,or pushed Souths for longer periods,the NRL said the penalties were sufficient I dont agree. SANZAR stuffed around due to Harrison's denials and the naming of the wrong player.

 

[taipan]

Hello? Taipan?

Hello Tighthead the committee decided to suspend the payment,how friggin convenient and considerate of them.So he needed the money to pay for his UK sojourn perhaps.
Anti discrimination workshops fine (bit like AA), however he should be working with the indiginous people at the coalface ,or doesnt he want to face them.
Part of the money from Fletcher's fine is going to that group,and he is working with them.

 

[Tighthead]

Let's directly compare the punishments:

Fletcher - Fined $10,000 ($5000 of which was suspended, $5000 of which goes to charity)
Harrison - Fined $20,000 (suspended)

Fletcher - 1 match ban
Harrison - 3 match ban (including loss of match payments of $9000)

Fletcher - loses captaincy for ? weeks
Harrison - wasn't captain

Fletcher - will spend ? hours assiting Widders in the indiginous community
Harrison - will spend 30 hours delivering anti-villification talks to young rugby players.

Are you really saying that Harrison's punishment was much more lenient than Fletchers? They seem pretty comparable to me.

 

[taipan]

No are you !. I am saying firstly the time off for both was insufficient,secondly the Harrison incident took days to get a decision(check Growden's comment in today's Herald ) the Fletcher incident was penalised all over red rover within 24 hours,Fletcher lost the captaincy (a loss of esteem) for the remainder of his South's contract.
Widders spends a huge amount of time working to assist the aboriginal community for which he received the Ken Stephen medal.One can assume Fletcher will be spending a more than inconsequential amount of time within that community.It would be a damn side easier talking to young rugby union players,or league players forthat matter ,than having to face a community in which you cast in an indirect way aspersions.Fletcher is playing in a side with a large number of aboriginal players,in a district with large numbers of aboriginals who support the team he once led.Tell me who is theone "under the sword".
My point which doesnt seem to get through,that I believe both penalties were insufficient ,its not as if racial vilification is somehow something new on the horizon.

 

[Tighthead]

Perhaps I misunderstood you because you seem to have been far more vehement in your criticism of the ARU/Sanzar and 'union apologists' over the Harrison punishment than you have been with the NRL.