GWS hit a new low

[Bulldog Force]

Man this round is boring. The v'tards get a bye meaning I've got no one to laugh at

 

[DC_fan]

The news the AFL has been dreading all year. The Bye has slaughtered GWS.

 

[Bulldog Force]

So does that mean they walk away with no points?

 

[Bulldog Force]

Another week, another thrashing. 130 - 44 at the hands of North Melbourne :lol:

 

[RL The greatest game]

Another week, another thrashing. 130 - 44 at the hands of North Melbourne :lol:

The worse part about this for NM was there crowd was 10,000 under what it needs to be to break even. Goold ole Andy 5 chins destroying fumbleball not only in Sydney but Vicky as well. Happy days

 

[Bulldog Force]

Well the AFL pumped $250,000,000 from their secret 'war chest' to get the Victorians up and running, and are throwing $20,000,000 per year just to keep them afloat because that's how much of a loss they're making. I guess they're used to throwing their money down the gurgler ay :lol:

 

[RL The greatest game]

Well the AFL pumped $250,000,000 from their secret 'war chest' to get the Victorians up and running, and are throwing $20,000,000 per year just to keep them afloat because that's how much of a loss they're making. I guess they're used to throwing their money down the gurgler ay :lol:

Sleep well in the thought that Andy 5 chins and his lackies are bleeding the Anglo-Irish game coffers dry . Happy days.

 

[DC_fan]

GWS need to lose another 35 straight games and they will break the NFL/VFL record for the most consecutive loses. The record stands at 51.

What's the odds of it happening?

 

[Spud]

wrong thread

 

[Bulldog Force]

LOL, so the clock stops working at the stadium, and instead of them doing the traditional 'count down' in afl clocks, they are counting up :lol:

 

[RL The greatest game]

GWS need to lose another 35 straight games and they will break the NFL/VFL record for the most consecutive loses. The record stands at 51.

What's the odds of it happening?

Andy 5 chins won't let that happen.

 

[Bulldog Force]

They came awfully close to breaking that duck against the worst team in the comp yesterday... errr... make the the SECOND worst team in the comp lol

 

[_snafu_]

A joke of a team in a shitty game.

 

[miănfèinàn]

The key words being "long period", as in 20 to 30 odd years, something similar to the time it took for the Swans to become sustainable - and I use thay word loosely. It remains to be seen whether the AFL can sustain GWS for that long.

There was no AFL culture in WS, but already a large soccer culture. This is largely why WSW has done so much better.

Many feel that GWS was a bad idea, is poorly executed and that it will never work - and perhaps rightly so. Just so many things about the club seem ridiculous - Folau, the name, Sheedy, the location, of the games, Canberra etc. In my opinion this gives us a sneaky insight into the AFL's thinking. 15 odd years ago, going on AFL annual reports, AFL in Queensland and NSW made up about 4% of all AFL revenue. They were desperate to expand this, saying that they would do "whatever it takes" to increase AFL's presence in NSW and QLD. This was around the start of the SuperLeague war and I think they still underestimate the effect this had in bolstering the popularity of the Swans, instead believing the massive increase in crowds can be explained solely by their GF appearance. Cue the start of concessions for expansion clubs, consequently three consecutive GFs for Brisbane and sustained success for the Swans.

Things were looking rosy in the east with some large crowds at Stadium Australia and a record TV contract. Nevertheless, this would turn out to be a peak in popularity - the expansion clubs started losing money and support - crowds decreasing since these heady days - and TV ratings stalled and started going backwards. Armed with a large warchest, the AFL knew they had to do something as the Lions and the Swans were still far from sustainable in the longterm and certainly not going to significantly increase revenue on a national level going on the current trajectory. Even continued success on the field didn't seem to be having the desired effect. So they decided to start two new clubs - GC and GWS - to bolster their efforts and implement the plans detailed in a previous post. The bidding process was rigged, Tasmanians can attest to that - in fact there was no bidding process à la NRL. The AFL and the TV channels knew where the clubs had to go and that is where they ended up. The bidding process was at best a front for obtaining government funding for stadiums and underwriting lowly attended games. After all, this was going to be a costly, long term project. But the AFL have to keep going forward in the east and obtain some sort of critical mass or all the hard work done with the Lions and Swans may be lost.

So, in a sense, the AFL had no choice with GC and GWS. They had the cash and the will of the TV execs so they went for it. But they've backed themselves into a corner and it shows - more so with GWS than GC. How could a such slick operator that has done very well in its backyard make such a monumental gaffe with GWS? It seems to reek more and more of desperation to get second clubs into the east in a hurry. If GWS look like failing I can't see the AFL bailing very easily and I think we will see some extraordinary measures brought in to prop them up. The problem is many AFL fans are conscient of this and the AFL is going to have to walk a fine line in keeping them afloat while maintaining integrity in an already dubiously equal championship.

The AFL has certainly had a history of persisting with clubs for a long period - and indeed has had that problem since long before it went national.

It had to prop up the middle-class south-of-Yarra clubs of Hawthorn and St. Kilda for well over a decade after World War II to make them competitive on- and off-field, and has perhaps had some success with those teams having at least solid support bases.

There is no way the AFL will not do the same thing with Greater Western Sydney if they do not improve on the field soon. Gold Coast have done a lot this year after themselves threatening an 0-22 season themselves in 2012, but they were not beaten so badly as Greater Western Sydney (whom a friend of mine joking called ?Gay (expletive) Society? last year and regretted doing so when I talked about it today) have been.

It is popularly thought that the draftees Greater Western Sydney are developing at present will drive them up the ladder in the next few years, but it is hard to tell when or if the Giants will stop losing by huge margins week in week out. If they do not, it could lead the AFL into its own ?Super League? war since there might be pressure to ban the propping up of unviable clubs and efforts to make clubs who have been used to being coddled by the highly centralised (North Korea-type, a cynic might say) structure of the AFL.

 

[Bulldog Force]

Well looks like they will get blown out of the water by the Swannies tomorrow, so who knows how long this torture will go for. The longer the better IMO.

 

[DC_fan]

With 16 mins to go the Swans lead 159-40.

 

[Bulldog Force]

171-42. The Swans more than quadrupled the Victorians score. That is, you guess it, a new low loving this

 

[Tommax25]

Pride of Western Sydney lol

 

[miănfèinàn]

171-42. The Swans more than quadrupled the Giants’ score. That is, you guess it, a new low loving this

Greater Western Sydney now at 0-and-15 have the following games to go to avoid 0-and-22:

1. Essendon (Skoda)
2. Collingwood (MCG)
3. Melbourne (Skoda)
4. Fremantle (Subiaco)
5. Brisbane (Gabba)
6. Richmond (Skoda)
7. Gold Coast (Carrara)

On paper, the one hope Greater Western Sydney have for a win in 2013 is the Melbourne game, and I am sure they are all prepared for it. then, so will the Melbourne team that will know how they will be ridiculed if they drop a game to the Giants. The Brisbane game two weeks later I had thought of as some possibility, but it is at the Gabba and the Lions appear to be potentially rebuilding at last after playing in the major round only once in the past eight years. Gold Coast in the last round has been thought of, but it is an away game so dubious.

What might be noted here, though, is that teams in the situation Greater Western Sydney are now have often got wins when not expected, but because their opponents were on what one might call a “sugar high” after winning a thrilling game against a top opponent.

This happened with Fremantle in 2001 (the last team to be 0-and-15) when Hawthorn lost to them after an after-the-siren win over fourth-placed Carlton. Way back in 1922 in the English County Cricket Championship Somerset lost to a Glamorgan team that had previously lost all sixteen games except one against Gloucestershire limited by rain to an hour’s play. Glamorgan were in the same situation Greater Western Sydney are now, too - being in their second season after two wins in their debut year but otherwise abysmal form. The previous three days Somerset had had a thrilling win over Middlesex, who had won the Championship in 1920 and 1921. GWS’ best hope may lie in catching an unwary team in this situation, but there does not seem any team potentially in the situation the Hawthorn of 2001 or the Somerset of 1922 were, unless Brisbane or Richmond win a thriller over the Blues, when that team is fighting for its life.

 

[Bulldog Force]

Why do you colour the text? We can make reference to who you're referring to without making it look like the teams colours lol.