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Hagan for Eels!

Jobdog

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Minor premierships are over-rated Ben. No-one remembers who wins the minor premiership, its only the Premiers.
 

Stranger

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That is true, but in reality..... Newi - Joey will not win a premiership... and look in 2002 what happen when we had Joey for most of the year finished 2nd... i beleive we would have won the comp if we had joey in the finals...

Although i do beleive we should be getting rid of Hagen, he is not as much of a failure as many suggest.
 

cram

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Daniel Anderson was linked with Parramatta on radio this morning. He is a former assistant coach at Parra. I won't be too disappointed to see Hagan move on.

I believe that Johns will have a major part to play in deciding who is coach he is the biggest influence on the decisions the board will make.
 

Misanthrope

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I'd love to see a coach like Daniel Anderson at the club - somebody who has proven they've got an eye for talent and they can nurture juniors. People sometimes forget Anderson is also largely responsible for the organisation of a much more professional juniors system in NZ - something we could certainly use.
 

Jono078

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This sort of stuff gives me the sh*ts.

Why can't they wait until the end of the season, I hate all these destractions :(.

I think Hagan is getting a fair bit of undeserved criticism, in the past few years we have had so many injuries, not exactly Hagans fault. 2004 we done reasonable without Johns.

I say give him until the end of 2006, because that year we have everything back in order from trainers etc... If he can't deliver that year. Then we wave goodbye. But none of this crap now.
 

cram

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The trouble is the crap is here via Parramatta. Parra have declared their hand and will be actively looking for a coach. If Hagan meets with the Board this week and they tell him well buddy if the team doesnt perform this year u r on your bike then he will snap up any chance that comes along.

The best scenario is that Hagan stays or the board tell him this is his last year, like Parra have done, and u just hope that the season can still be productive.

What wont be productive is speculation of will he stay or wont he stay. I say put all the cards on the table and make a decision now.
 

MrCharisma

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Jono078 said:
This sort of stuff gives me the sh*ts.

Why can't they wait until the end of the season, I hate all these destractions :(.

I think Hagan is getting a fair bit of undeserved criticism, in the past few years we have had so many injuries, not exactly Hagans fault. 2004 we done reasonable without Johns.

I say give him until the end of 2006, because that year we have everything back in order from trainers etc... If he can't deliver that year. Then we wave goodbye. But none of this crap now.

Because Parramatta want Jamie Lyon back and because he left because of Smith, they want to announce it early so Jamie can return without any real competition.... Jamie will have a year to think about how Smith isn't coaching any more
 

benno

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all of you guys are a bunch of winging babies...if the knights go well you all syart praising hagan and his staff for his efforts and how well he's going, they start going sh*t he's all of a sudden the worst thing to happen to the club, give it a break fellas, shee whiz!
 

macavity

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*yawn*

I agree that we shouldn't have our hand forced. Although IF he declares he is going to the Eels early, he should be shown the door on the spot.

2001 still hurts for them huh?
 

Alex28

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/league/e...-new-coach-list/2005/11/21/1132421602811.html

Asked yesterday if he had approached Parramatta or been approached by them, Hagan replied: "No to both questions."

But when asked whether he was aware of interest in him from the Eels, he said: "I would say you would have to determine that from your end. I don't think anything like that has reached any [significant] stage."

It is possible that an intermediary could be involved in any approach.

However, he did say he would like to continue as Newcastle coach beyond next season. "It would be my preference to stay here," he said. "I'm talking to Newcastle on Wednesday and I hope to find out then what the club's plans are beyond next season. I'm pretty settled up here with my family, but I've got to find out what the club wants to do."

The Newcastle board met last night to consider a proposal from the wealthy Wests Leagues Club in Newcastle to get involved in the management of the NRL club and back the Knights financially. Hagan's future was expected to be discussed at that meeting as well.

Newcastle's financial problems have been well documented and it is understood Hagan is among the lowest-paid coaches in the competition. Smith, on the other hand, is among the highest-paid, earning at least $400,000 per season.

Tyler said yesterday he didn't see his club's coaching position beyond 2006 as being an "urgent matter of business" at this stage. But he added that since Hagan had asked to discuss the future with the club, that meeting would go ahead.

Conway said yesterday he had asked Hagan about the Parramatta speculation. "I asked Michael if he had signed a contract with Parramatta for 2007 and he said he hadn't and I take him at his word," Conway said. "It isn't unusual that rumours fly about in the league world. The chairman and myself will meet Michael this week and discuss the direction of the football club."

Newcastle paid the price for a massive injury toll last season when, despite a strong finish after getting injured players back, they ran last. Hagan coached Queensland to defeat in the past two State of Origin series and subsequently quit that job.
You can hardly blame the bloke for being interested in the job...

Lets just hope the club gets this sorted out quickly - he sounds like he wants to stay, and we are finally giving him a chance to succeed with proper facilities and staff around him to do his job properly.

If he does go, there is plenty of quality coaches about to replace him...
 

antonius

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I wouldn't be fussed on Matty Johns being head coach, he has never coached, and seriously the bloke is too tied up in the media to be able to give it his full attention, there are also still too many of his old team mates here, and I for one don't think that's a good mix.
 

Jedda

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I definately agree with your sentiments regarding Matthew Johns, Tony. Even if he was interested in getting into coaching I'd rather see him work his way up through the junior grades first.

Personally if we were to replace Hagan then I'd like to see someone completely un-knights related get the position. Tim Sheens, Graham Murray or Daniel Anderson would be my suggestions.
 

knights_maniac

Juniors
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i have no MAJOR dramas if Hagan stays or if he does go. What i do see as a positive is that some extra enthusiasm, fresh new ideas and a whole positive influence on the team with a new EXPERIEMCED coach with decent credibility. Of course it could turn the other way with disruptions but not really, I think a smooth transition at end of 2006 for a new coach would be great. Bit if he stays, then so be it, it wont disrupt the players as such and relationships would continue on a steady path, hopefully improving under the new club direction etc

+ if he goes, Id laugh at seeing Parramatta gradually implode over the not so distant future hehe
 

knights_maniac

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Jedda said:
I definately agree with your sentiments regarding Matthew Johns, Tony. Even if he was interested in getting into coaching I'd rather see him work his way up through the junior grades first.

Personally if we were to replace Hagan then I'd like to see someone completely un-knights related get the position. Tim Sheens, Graham Murray or Daniel Anderson would be my suggestions.

it would be safe to say Tim Sheens isnt going anywhere. After the success he has brought to his club and his experience, they would be insane to let him go. He is just on the pinnacle of success, and im sure he would want to some kind of dynasty there like he did years ago at canberra. I could only see him moving over if a) challenges b) sacked..

Daniel Anderson looks like a good option...Chris Anderson? Well his time at Cronulla just really didnt sit well with me...who knows, he is a great coach that is for sure...
 
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John Lang would be great IMO a real hardline coach that doesnt put up with BS might be a great fuse for our team to explode.

Daniel Anderson would be great as well.
 

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