Harold Matthews and SG Ball Discussion Thread

[stretcher]

This is the main thing, Tai is fully grown, he has been the same size for nearl 2 years. He is bigger and stronger than nearly anyone in the 20s. He can physically handle playing u/18s as we have seen through his supurb performances in MCS games this years against current u/20s and SG ball players.
He is not gonna get much bigger or stronger so why make him muck around in some u/17s squad which is unlikely to win a game this year.

As for Stevie Misevic Penrith decided they did not want him what so ever, he is now training in the Roosters SG ball squad with nathan and jason Antonelli.

jason antonelli and tevita vave have also played arrive alive and mcs and they wouldnt be the first players picked in ball

 

[sweet-as]

jason antonelli and tevita vave have also played arrive alive and mcs and they wouldnt be the first players picked in ball

They dont run through opposition making 3 or 4 line breaks a game and score 2 tries nearly every game they play.

 

[footyboy7]

I heard about Jas and Stevie training for Roosters aswell.
I believe Penrith were goin to use Alan as more of a fullback, but yes it is true he is signed with the Bulldogs and ill think that they will put Ryan Casey (FB for St Pats) in there over R.Willie, he has skill, strong defence, height and never drops the football.
Even though Jas and Tevita have played AAC i also think Tai is still more capable of handling Ball.
And whoever said Edwyn Matoha-Here will be halfback is really wrong. Jake Maklouf will definately be halkback with Edwyn on the bench as i believe Zach Clay is to be looked at as first choice hooker with Wiki in the back row.

 

[sweet-as]

I heard about Jas and Stevie training for Roosters aswell.
I believe Penrith were goin to use Alan as more of a fullback, but yes it is true he is signed with the Bulldogs and ill think that they will put Ryan Casey (FB for St Pats) in there over R.Willie, he has skill, strong defence, height and never drops the football.
Even though Jas and Tevita have played AAC i also think Tai is still more capable of handling Ball.
And whoever said Edwyn Matoha-Here will be halfback is really wrong. Jake Maklouf will definately be halkback with Edwyn on the bench as i believe Zach Clay is to be looked at as first choice hooker with Wiki in the back row.

Personally i'd have edwyn as starting hooker.

 

[stretcher]

I heard about Jas and Stevie training for Roosters aswell.
I believe Penrith were goin to use Alan as more of a fullback, but yes it is true he is signed with the Bulldogs and ill think that they will put Ryan Casey (FB for St Pats) in there over R.Willie, he has skill, strong defence, height and never drops the football.
Even though Jas and Tevita have played AAC i also think Tai is still more capable of handling Ball.
And whoever said Edwyn Matoha-Here will be halfback is really wrong. Jake Maklouf will definately be halkback with Edwyn on the bench as i believe Zach Clay is to be looked at as first choice hooker with Wiki in the back row.

so what you guys are saying is that tai will run through guys like tyrone and john taefu and vaipuna and kaiser im not so sure and besides you have to be able to tackle and have good lateral movement which he dosent posess so he will be a target and also dont put to much emphasis on school footy cause there are a lot of players playing ball that work and dont have a chance to have a crack at guys like tai and you are limited to who you play in school footy and both doms and pats werent that successful in the arrive alive this year and didnt play against the cream of the crop but they will in the ball comp and dont forget the queensland teams that are in the ball comp and all the queensland kids that get signed up by sydney clubs so again school footy is limited unless you play the best you cant measure talent...a couple of years ago pats were very successful in arrive alive and it translated to successful matts and ball teams for penrith not anymore...

 

[stretcher]

I heard about Jas and Stevie training for Roosters aswell.
I believe Penrith were goin to use Alan as more of a fullback, but yes it is true he is signed with the Bulldogs and ill think that they will put Ryan Casey (FB for St Pats) in there over R.Willie, he has skill, strong defence, height and never drops the football.
Even though Jas and Tevita have played AAC i also think Tai is still more capable of handling Ball.
And whoever said Edwyn Matoha-Here will be halfback is really wrong. Jake Maklouf will definately be halkback with Edwyn on the bench as i believe Zach Clay is to be looked at as first choice hooker with Wiki in the back row.

i disagree with zach clay starting games if iwas coach i would bring him on after 15minutes could you imagine the damage he would cause against tired forwards and edwyn is a natural halfback maclouf isnt he has always been a hooker and has great defence which he stops doing when he has to much to worry about when he plays half but i can understand what you are saying with the stmarys coach being part of the staff at matts but you have to admit macloufs season finished poor playing half was outplayed by edwyn several times especially the game at the kingsway i watched that stmarys won 28-20..

 

[straight shooter]

Get your facts right

 

[footyboy7]

so what you guys are saying is that tai will run through guys like tyrone and john taefu and vaipuna and kaiser im not so sure and besides you have to be able to tackle and have good lateral movement which he dosent posess so he will be a target and also dont put to much emphasis on school footy cause there are a lot of players playing ball that work and dont have a chance to have a crack at guys like tai and you are limited to who you play in school footy and both doms and pats werent that successful in the arrive alive this year and didnt play against the cream of the crop but they will in the ball comp and dont forget the queensland teams that are in the ball comp and all the queensland kids that get signed up by sydney clubs so again school footy is limited unless you play the best you cant measure talent...a couple of years ago pats were very successful in arrive alive and it translated to successful matts and ball teams for penrith not anymore...

What i was saying is that Tai is not more capable then the Sg Ball front rowers but more capable of handling Sg Ball over Jason Antonelli And Tevita Vave. In any circumstance i would pick Kaisa, JT, Tyrone and VTK over Tai.
Also someone mentioned playing Jas and Tevita for SG Ball cause they had played Arive Alive, all i was saying that Tai could of played Arrive Alive and handled easier then thes two.
Also i can see Zach Clay as an impact player so maybe thats a good choice but in any case i would always have Jake Maklouf halfback and Edwyn hooker or 5/8 hes not a HB.
Also i watched this Ethan Chatto this year, he steps up against the bad teams and is hiding in the hard games.

 

[Flock]

Ive heard that the under 16 year olds playing against St Helens will be in Academy SG Ball? Is this true?

 

[straight shooter]

maybe thats why he left stmarys and the best of this group is roy closely followed by anjelic although they wont push the guns out of a spot...

no stretcher that wasnt why ethan left stmarys, he left to seek more opportunity because of so many good players at stmarys.

 

[straight shooter]

yes maguire is coming played against penrith 14s absolutely killed them he is only 14 so they plan to have him play two years of matts i think the line up will be.1.rikie willie2.joseph mapasua3.john tuliatu4.alan nuilesa5.josh walker6.josh maguire7.jakob maclouf8.jakiel fuimoano9.edwyn matatohoe10.leonati felikatau11.jay fuimoano12.bryce cartwright.13.wiki tuavao.14matt lodge.15.roy teuku16.aiden glanville.17.zach clay.18.dilan grech.19.brodie anderson.20.peau aleni.21.jarrod brakenhoffer.22.ryan casey.23.sylvester uasi.

my mail is that paul maguire is not coming,at that from a good source,maybe you blokes should wait to see next year who makes what,long way off yet.

 

[stretcher]

my mail is that paul maguire is not coming,at that from a good source,maybe you blokes should wait to see next year who makes what,long way off yet.

thats a fair comment about ethan probly the smartest the he has done if he stayed he probly wouldnt be in the matts trainon squad and as far as ive heard maguire is coming he just wont be able to train as much as the other guys being from bathurst....

 

[sweet-as]

Ive heard that the under 16 year olds playing against St Helens will be in Academy SG Ball? Is this true?

Unfortunately i have heard the same rumour...

 

[stretcher]

What i was saying is that Tai is not more capable then the Sg Ball front rowers but more capable of handling Sg Ball over Jason Antonelli And Tevita Vave. In any circumstance i would pick Kaisa, JT, Tyrone and VTK over Tai.
Also someone mentioned playing Jas and Tevita for SG Ball cause they had played Arive Alive, all i was saying that Tai could of played Arrive Alive and handled easier then thes two.
Also i can see Zach Clay as an impact player so maybe thats a good choice but in any case i would always have Jake Maklouf halfback and Edwyn hooker or 5/8 hes not a HB.
Also i watched this Ethan Chatto this year, he steps up against the bad teams and is hiding in the hard games.

And my point footyboy is that he isnt better than the props we have and from what ive seen the penrith props are not the best in the comp so what hope does he have he is an outstanding talent but this years ball side has more talent they proved it when they played matts and they proved it this year winning three games one against penrith and losing four games by 8 or less points ....and the one thing different is that these guys are dedicated by all reports...

 

[ashton]

PARRA STAR OFF TO PANTHERS
Story & Photo's BY :

Matraville Sports High School's Kyle Fraser is looking at a bright future with his move to the Penrith Panther in 2010.
Kyle will be a excting addition the the Panther Toyota Cup team next year after stella couple seasons with his school Matraville Sports High School and the Parramatta Eels Elite player programs.
Finishing school this year, Kyle told our footyteam, "yeh, i'm really looking forward to next year, it should be great"
Good luck Kyle, we all wish you all the best.

 

[ashton]

thats a fair comment about ethan probly the smartest the he has done if he stayed he probly wouldnt be in the matts trainon squad and as far as ive heard maguire is coming he just wont be able to train as much as the other guys being from bathurst....

Is Paul Maguire under contract with Penrith? And if so would he be the youngest player that Penrith has ever signed?

 

[straight shooter]

What i was saying is that Tai is not more capable then the Sg Ball front rowers but more capable of handling Sg Ball over Jason Antonelli And Tevita Vave. In any circumstance i would pick Kaisa, JT, Tyrone and VTK over Tai.
Also someone mentioned playing Jas and Tevita for SG Ball cause they had played Arive Alive, all i was saying that Tai could of played Arrive Alive and handled easier then thes two.
Also i can see Zach Clay as an impact player so maybe thats a good choice but in any case i would always have Jake Maklouf halfback and Edwyn hooker or 5/8 hes not a HB.
Also i watched this Ethan Chatto this year, he steps up against the bad teams and is hiding in the hard games.

your kidding yourself footyboy hes the only one that steped up in the hard games against stmarys, stclair,emu thats what the selectors saw and thats why hes in matts

 

[brothersleague]

can someone please give some information on jesse Hoara from windsor? i think he played 17s this but im not sure, he has made roosters and tigers sg ball train on squads and i hav never heard of him. What position etc cos with windsor only making tier b and having there 3 superstars it may look like it was those guys carrying the rest of the side but obviously not

 

[Art Vandalay]

can someone please give some information on jesse Hoara from windsor? i think he played 17s this but im not sure, he has made roosters and tigers sg ball train on squads and i hav never heard of him. What position etc cos with windsor only making tier b and having there 3 superstars it may look like it was those guys carrying the rest of the side but obviously not

i think he mite have played center for them no rep experience as far as im aware off not a bad player

can u please tell me brotherleague where the roosters train on squad is

 

[murraymob]

got this off the goosters website hope it helps sg ball train on players

http://www.sydneyroosters.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=20983&sg-ball-squad-taking-shape


the goosters harold matts squad

http://www.sydneyroosters.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=20964&harold-matts-squad-picked