Harrison out, Teo Expected to Replace

[ANTiLAG]

at a guess I'd say Kylie would easily outsell Inxs

Yeah that sucks, but if true, that is in no way my fault at all.

 

[Big Pete]

My question remains, has Benji won more finals matches for the Tigpies at pivot than Lockyer has at pivot despite playing for the all international Broncos?

Not yet.

Lockyer: 8
Marshall: 6

Benji never had to deal with Origin hangovers either.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Not yet.

Lockyer: 8
Marshall: 6

Benji never had to deal with Origin hangovers either.

Thanks Pete

So Benji 6/9

Lockyer 8/15.

Yes, but the origin hangover should be long gone by the finals...

 

[Big Pete]

8/14* You might be including the Storm game where he played halfback (a fresh out of retirement TC was pivot).

In theory it should but obviously it isn't that simple and I believe there is a link between success & a lack of Origin commitments. All-star teams certainly have that drawback.

Do you believe in a measure that would tell you that Walters is a better five eigth than Daley?

 

[ANTiLAG]

8/14* You might be including the Storm game where he played halfback (a fresh out of retirement TC was pivot).

In theory it should but obviously it isn't that simple and I believe there is a link between success & a lack of Origin commitments. All-star teams certainly have that drawback.

Do you believe in a measure that would tell you that Walters is a better five eigth than Daley?

I'd still include the game where he is listed as halfback as opposed to pivot, as I would Benji playing halfback this year should Tigpies make the finals.

I wasn't using it as a measure per se, it literally just popped into my head as a question. But even then, I did acknowledge the Bronco's superior rosters around their play maker.

 

[AuDragon]

Thanks Pete

So Benji 6/9

Lockyer 8/15.

Yes, but the origin hangover should be long gone by the finals...

Gee, this wasn't predictable... :roll:

 

[ANTiLAG]

Gee, this wasn't predictable... :roll:

Don't sound so bitter. The Bronco's have a proud history.

 

[Big Pete]

But even then, I did acknowledge the Bronco's superior rosters around their play maker.

Debatable.

I don't think Lockyer (at pivot) ever had a chance to play in a well rounded spine like Marshall did in 2005.

Heck I think he would have loved the opportunity when he had TC, McGuire & Perry partnering him in the halves. I also think he would have preferred Farah's service from dummy half over Costigan, Ikin & B. Berrigan.

 

[broncos70]

NSW

1. Ken Nagas (Bundaberg),
2. James McManus (Scotland),
3. John Hopoate (Tonga),
4. Timana Tahu (Melbourne)
5. Hazem El Masri (Lebanon)- all footy in nsw
6. Peter Wallace (Melbourne)- played first senior game in nsw
7. Peter Sterling (Toowoomba)- footy in qld but went to my high school in NSW.
8. Dean Pay (Melbourne),
9. Ben Elias (Lebanon),
10. Justin Poore (Bunbury, WA)
11. Ian Roberts (London),
12. Willie Mason (Auckland)- All footy nsw
13. Mario Fenech (Malta)
14 Ken Nagas (Bundaberg)
15 Akuila Uate (Fiji)- true fijian
16 James Tamou (NZ)- NZer
17 Jarryd Hayne- fiji.



Queenzealand

1 Karmichael Hunt (Auckland) came to aus when he was 12.
2 Mat Rogers (Caringbah) born in nsw, grew up in qld.
3 Paul Bowman (Newcastle, NSW)
4 Greg Inglis (NSW)- decided to ditch nsw cos he preferred qld. He had a choice, and made it.
5 Israel Folau (Minto).- left nsw when he was 13 and played all footy from there on in qld.
6 Julian ONeil (Hornsby)
7 Adrian Lam (PNG)
8 Craig Smith (Kaitaia)
9 Michael Crocker (Auburn, NSW) born there, raised in qld
10 Petro Civoniciva (Fiji)- born there, raised in qld
11 Sam Thaiday (Sydney)- grew up in qld
12 Brad Thorn (NZ)- grew up in qld
13 Billy Moore (Tenterfield)
14 Chris Flannery (Cowra, NSW)
15 Neville Costigan (PNG)- grew up in qld
16 Tonie Carrol (Chrsitchurch)- played all his footy in qld
17 Lote Tuquri (Fiji)- all footy in qld
18 Ben Teo (Auckland)- NZer.

 

[AuDragon]

Don't sound so bitter. The Bronco's have a proud history.

Pot... this is kettle!

I'm not the one consistently trying to bag one of the greatest players in RL history with pathetic arguments and reasoning. :roll:

What I do wonder, is why the bitterness? I mean, if it wasn't shagging your favourite sheep, what did he do to deserve all this contempt?

 

[perverse]

4 Greg Inglis (NSW)- decided to ditch nsw cos he preferred qld. He had a choice, and made it.

yeah, because all of his bloody mates were playing there. it's meant to be mate vs mate, not mate sucks off mate. soft turncoat merkin.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Heck I think he would have loved the opportunity when he had TC, McGuire & Perry partnering him in the halves. I also think he would have preferred Farah's service from dummy half over Costigan, Ikin & B. Berrigan.

Morris, Moltzen and Lui v Wallace? Really?

Shaun Berrigan was a good nut. Three years of Ennis, who was to keep Farah out of Origin. McCullough is not a lemon....

Shane Perry was good enough to keep Brett Seymour out.

Kharmichael could play...



In my opinion - you'll do yourself a disservice to compare squads. Brisbane has always been known as an all star team.

 

[Big Pete]

Morris, Moltzen and Lui v Wallace? Really?

Shaun Berrigan was a good nut. Three years of Ennis, who was to keep Farah out of Origin. McCullough is not a lemon....

Shane Perry was good enough to keep Brett Seymour out.

Kharmichael could play...



In my opinion - you'll do yourself a disservice to compare squads. Brisbane has always been known as an all star team.

You missed my point. Did Lockyer ALWAYS have a better squad around him than Marshall during the finals?

I certainly don't think so.

 

[AuDragon]

Morris, Moltzen and Lui v Wallace? Really?

Shaun Berrigan was a good nut. Three years of Ennis, who was to keep Farah out of Origin. McCullough is not a lemon....

Shane Perry was good enough to keep Brett Seymour out.

Kharmichael could play...



In my opinion - you'll do yourself a disservice to compare squads. Brisbane has always been known as an all star team.

The Broncos only lost one finals game with both Lockyer and Wallace in the team, and it took a brain snap from Sims in the last minute of the game to loose it.

Since 2006, all the finals games the Broncos have lost, bar the above mentioned one, were played without one of the halves. We've had a miserable run with injuries leading up to the finals in the last 5 years... :crazy:

 

[ANTiLAG]

The Broncos only lost one finals game with both Lockyer and Wallace in the team, and it took a brain snap from Sims in the last minute of the game to loose it.

I'm not going to check this stat, but I love how footy fans can commit the most absurd trivia to absolute recall, even 50 years later at times. Good for you, sir!

 

[ANTiLAG]

You missed my point. Did Lockyer ALWAYS have a better squad around him than Marshall during the finals?

I certainly don't think so.

Your only argument would be 2005 Tigs.

Personally, I think the 2006 Broncos squad slam dunks that team in a Harlem Globetropper manner.

 

[Big Pete]

Your only argument would be 2005 Tigs.

IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED LAG!!!

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These forums remind me of this clip from time to time.

 

[Hutty1986]

IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED LAG!!!

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These forums remind me of this clip from time to time.

:lol: Only decent part of that movie...well, C.Diaz wasnt too shabby either, for her vintage

 

[ANTiLAG]

IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED LAG!!!

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These forums remind me of this clip from time to time.

Heh, really? And yet, the 2005 Broncos were still a superior outfit pre finals to the Tigs.

Brisbane 40 v Wests Tigers 22

Round 15, 2005

Brisbane Wests Tigers
Pos Player T G FG Pts Pos Player T G FG Pts
FB Karmichael Hunt 1 4 FB Brett Hodgson 3/4 6
WG Steve Michaels 1 4 WG Daniel Fitzhenry 1 4
CN Justin Hodges 1 4 CN Shane Elford
CN Shaun Berrigan 2 8 CN Paul Whatuira
WG Leon Bott WG Pat Richards 1 4
FE Darren Lockyer 1 6/7 16 FE Benji Marshall 2 8
HB Brett Seymour HB Scott Prince
PR Shane Webcke PR Bryce Gibbs
HK Barry Berrigan HK Ben Galea
PR Petero Civoniceva PR John Skandalis
SR Corey Parker SR Anthony Laffranchi
SR David Stagg SR Matthew Jobson
LK Darren Smith LK John Wilson
BE Neville Costigan BE Robbie Farah
BE Casey McGuire BE Liam Fulton
BE Dane Carlaw 1 4 BE Chris Heighington
BE Sam Thaiday BE Bronson Harrison

1 Parramatta 36
2 St. George Illawarra 36
3 Brisbane 34
4 Wests Tigers 34

KABOOOM!
Add Tate and Thorn to come back into that squad.
Yes I know, Brisbane lost 6 in a row before the finals.

And btw, if LeBron gets a three peat - that is an argument that will raise its head ten fold.

 

[Big Pete]

3 months before the finals.

Before the Origin season was over and the Broncos suffered all those timely injuries.

Again, I'd take the 2005 side over some of the sides Lockyer had to play with during the finals.