Has a coach ever been successful (won a comp) after being sacked?

[Bring back John Fifita]

I genuinely can’t think of any off-hand.. perhaps in England ??

 

[Exsilium]

I genuinely can’t think of any off-hand.. perhaps in England ??

We will have an answer if Ivan Cleary wins it this year

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

We will have an answer if Ivan Cleary wins it this year

indeed mate. Was in discussion on a Facebook fan group about Cleary when the thought (thread question) occurred to me.

 

[Front-Rower]

Wasn’t Tim Sheens sacked from the Cowboys before he won a comp with Wests Tigers?

 

[Valheru]

Wasn’t Tim Sheens sacked from the Cowboys before he won a comp with Wests Tigers?

He technically resigned

 

[Exsilium]

He technically resigned

Id accept “pushed” as being close enough to fired for the sake of this argument

 

[RedVDave]

Shane Flannigan*

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Ivan Cleary will win one and become the answer.

f**k you Wayne Scurrah. I just read Simon Mannering's book and for someone as non-outspoken as Simon, he's pretty strong on the fact we shat on the next 10 years (and counting) of our club by getting rid of Cleary.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Yes. 1956. Norm Tipping was the coach of the St George Dragons when they won the comp. At year's end he was sacked and replaced by Ken Kearney who became captain/coach from 1957-1961, and then non-playing coach in 1962.

 

[tumbidragon]

Steve 'chinless' Price has won a challenge cup with Warrington.

 

[Quicksilver]

Steve 'chinless' Price has won a challenge cup with Warrington.

He was also supposedly a pretty big influence as an assistant at Cronulla in ‘16. (I know not really the answer)

One sack, two premierships and no chin.

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Yes. 1956. Norm Tipping was the coach of the St George Dragons when they won the comp. At year's end he was sacked and replaced by Ken Kearney who became captain/coach from 1957-1961, and then non-playing coach in 1962.

cheers, who did tipping then go on to coach/win a comp with... assume after 1966 then?

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

One sack, two premierships and no chin.

Much better than no sack, one premiership and two chins...

 

[Captain Apollo]

cheers, who did tipping then go on to coach/win a comp with... assume after 1966 then?

Oops, sorry I mis-read your post I didn't notioce the bit about "sacked and then went on to win a comp." I mis-read it as "they were sacked after winning a comp". My bad.

Funnily enough, and with a little more research, it turns out my answer of "Norm Tipping" is still correct. He coached the St George Dragons to the first grade grand final in 1953, was sacked at seasons end and replaced by Ken Kearney for 1954-55, before he was re-appointed for 1956 and coached the Dragons to win the Grand Final. He was the replaced by Kearney for a final time for season 1957 onwards.

Source: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/st-george-dragons/coaches.html

Tipping never coached in first grade again after 1956, but coached the Dragons Under 21s side for the following decade before he quit coaching altogether. He was too much a St George man to coach against them by all reports.

Also obviously, based on the above info, another was Ken Kearney himself after being sacked at the end of 1955 for Tipping, before Tipping was sacked at the end of 1956 and Kearney was reappointed for 1957.

 

[10$ Ferret]

Ivan Cleary will win one and become the answer.

f**k you Wayne Scurrah. I just read Simon Mannering's book and for someone as non-outspoken as Simon, he's pretty strong on the fact we shat on the next 10 years (and counting) of our club by getting rid of Cleary.

How it as bad thing to rid your club of an individual without any integrity and a lying piece of shit. I think it just avoided Cleary screwing the club over later

 

[Bring back John Fifita]

Oops, sorry I mis-read your post I didn't notioce the bit about "sacked and then went on to win a cop. I mis-read it as "they were sacked after winning a comp". My bad.

Funnily enough, and with a little more research, it turns out my answer of "Norm Tipping" is still correct. He coached the St George Dragons to the first grade grand final in 1953, was sacked at seasons end and replaced by Ken Kearney for 1954-55, before he was re-appointed for 1956 and coached the Dragons to win the Grand Final. He was the replaced by Kearney for a final time for season 1957 onwards.

Source: https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/st-george-dragons/coaches.html

Tipping never coached in first grade again after 1956, but coached the Dragons Under 21s side for the following decade before he quit coaching altogether. He was too much a St George man to coach against them by all reports.

Also obviously, based on the above info, another was Ken Kearney himself after being sacked at the end of 1955 for Tipping, before Tipping was sacked at the end of 1956 and Kearney was reappointed for 1957.

Haha, cheers Captain. And sacked TWICE!

Second time around after winning a comp!

Can you imagine the rage from the saints-fan lynch mob at the end of 1956 if the front row forums or social media was around back then!

 

[Captain Apollo]

Haha, cheers Captain. And sacked TWICE!

Second time around after winning a comp!

Can you imagine the rage from the saints-fan lynch mob at the end of 1956 if the front row forums or social media was around back then!

Oh indeed. "Oust Facer" banners would have been all over the place

 

[Penrose Warrior]

How it as bad thing to rid your club of an individual without any integrity and a lying piece of shit. I think it just avoided Cleary screwing the club over later

Tigers fan?

He was with us for about 12 years as a player and coach, and tried to stay. I don't think we'd have been in trouble of that.

 

[adamkungl]

The ONLY coach in the NRL era who won their first premiership at their second (or third) club, is John Lang.

Sheens and Bennett have won premierships after leaving a club, but of course they had already won premierships before that.

So if Cleary manages to win it this year, it would be an interesting historical note. Also at Penrith, too.

 

[Valheru]

The ONLY coach in the NRL era who won their first premiership at their second (or third) club, is John Lang.

Sheens and Bennett have won premierships after leaving a club, but of course they had already won premierships before that.

So if Cleary manages to win it this year, it would be an interesting historical note. Also at Penrith, too.

Yeah isn't there some stat that if a coach doesn't win a comp in the first 3 years of their career or something close to that then they never will?

Cleary has a decent chance to break that trend.