Tbh, a forward pack had never been crunched the way the storm pack got dominated in those games. Orford has never been in a team that's finished in the top 2. I don't think it's his fault either.Ice777 said:and the Dogs beat us 2 years in a row in finals when he was half as well. Just ask Timmah because that's a reason why it makes the Dogs "A finals side" :sarcasm: