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Poupou Escobar

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OK, you are doing you typical goal post shift but lets run with this and assume she is 'beautiful'. Yes, that moves her further up the chain but not higher than a famous white male sports star.

I note you've introduced the term 'celebrity' but given we were talking about ordinary people I am going to assume that this is still the case.


Agreed, it appears that even such a significant head start he is still capable of doing some incredibly dopey things. But lets not paint the guy as a victim for his entire life, or indeed someone who hasn't taken advantage of his fair share of people. That's highly disingenuous.

Was he taken advantage of in this instance? Maybe. Hard to feel much sympathy for him though.
Hayne is half Fijian. He isn’t exactly ‘white’.
 

Gary Gutful

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Hayne is half Fijian. He isn’t exactly ‘white’.
Let's spilt the difference and call him caramel.

Granted, caramel is lower on the scale than white.

But he is a famous sports star so that moves him up the ladder quite a bit and the previous points about power and privilege are still valid.

Therefore in closing, caramel = delicious.
 

Gazzamatta

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How lucky are ActronAir and Aland? They say there is no such thing as bad publicity I suppose.
Great job restoring The Eels Brand Bernie. Then Oops!
I reckon JH will be in huge trouble for not disclosing this issue to The Eels and so he should be. Innocent or guilty it wont stop the media from squeezing every ounce of drama they can out of this situation. The TCT boys will have plenty of company at training in the new year.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Ramy is looking after Jarryd. He's in the best of hands.
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Is Ramy a sex crimes specialist? You want only the best defending you from these allegations.
 

I bleed blue & gold

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So does anyone know the process that will take place with this Civil Suit?
When will this go ahead? Will he have to be in the States for it to go ahead or can he be represented by his lawyer?
 

Obscene Assassin

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How lucky are ActronAir and Aland? They say there is no such thing as bad publicity I suppose.
Great job restoring The Eels Brand Bernie. Then Oops!
I reckon JH will be in huge trouble for not disclosing this issue to The Eels and so he should be. Innocent or guilty it wont stop the media from squeezing every ounce of drama they can out of this situation. The TCT boys will have plenty of company at training in the new year.

How was Hayne meant to know this was going to come up? The initial case went to a DA 2 years ago and he dismissed it completely as there was no convincing evidence to convict Hayne if anything. As if you'd think about something like that.
 

Noise

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I think he has 30-60 days to respond. Like how I imagine a lot of these things go Hayne will just pay her before it goes any further.

Yep. Case gets dropped. She gets paid (which is all she gives a f**k about). Hayne isn’t found guilty in the civil court. nothing gets dragged out for months.They both sign confidentiality agreements. Hayne doesn’t get in trouble with the NRL. Play on.
 

Obscene Assassin

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Yep. Case gets dropped. She gets paid (which is all she gives a f**k about). Hayne isn’t found guilty in the civil court. nothing gets dragged out for months.They both sign confidentiality agreements. Hayne doesn’t get in trouble with the NRL. Play on.

From what I gather this case isn't whether to figure out if Hayne is innocent or guilty but rather whether she suffered emotional stress during the ordeal, hence the civil case rather than a legal case. The DA said that there was insufficient evidence to accuse Hayne of sexual assault.
 
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From what I gather this case isn't whether to figure out if Hayne is innocent or guilty but rather whether she suffered emotional stress during the ordeal, hence the civil case rather than a legal case. The DA said that there was insufficient evidence to accuse Hayne of sexual assault.

It's not just about whether she suffered emotionally or physically. That suffering has to be deemed to arise from the behaviour of the defendant, and that behavior needs to be deemed (on the balance of probabilities) from an assault or sexual assault (in cases of this generic type). Suffering harm is not in itself enough for a claim to be successful.
 

lingard

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My point is that this is a minor issue that I can't summon myself to give a quarter of a f**k about.

Men have virtually all of the privilege and power in this world and we want to make a big deal about one minor instance where we are expected to have more responsibility and then cry about 'inequality'.

Meh.

That's a load of (currently) politically correct rubbish, Garry. I reckon men used to have most of the power and privilege, but the pendulum has well and trully swung the other way.
 

lingard

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It's most definitely there Hindy.

White males are at the top of tree and have been since day 1.

I think it very much depends on the context, Gary. In politics? Sure. In the family home? Maybe not. In the office? Well, in my office, women are and always have been the rulers. Depends on the context.
 
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Seem like she just wants coin because she woke up after a big name and discovered she had sex for the first time and it hurt (as it does first time for young women) and decided she wished she hadn't done it so by believing it was forced on her then she then can live with her guilt so then finds out he is a big name down under and can make some $$$ out of it.
Does that seem like the time line?
 
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