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[Eelogical]

Yeah, I might crack a beer tonight.

This sounds like a good idea!

 

[Gary Gutful]

Good man. In no time at all you'll be asking what the B in BBL stands for.

With material as solid as that I'd be insane not to milk it.

 

[T-Boon]

Hayne is alleged to have engaged with non-consensual sexual intercourse with the woman in his San Jose apartment, with the woman known as 'Ms V' admitting the pair were intoxicated.

Gutlful,
I realise the girl says she was drunk...thats her whole case. In fact she says "heavily intoxicated", "extreme levels of intoxication", "passed out due to high levels of intoxication", her friend said "she had never seen her so intoxicated".
What I am saying is this extreme level of intoxication would show up on the CCTV footage at the bar. You are saying it would not have.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Gutlful,
I realise the girl says she was drunk...thats her whole case. In fact she says "heavily intoxicated", "extreme levels of intoxication", "passed out due to high levels of intoxication", her friend said "she had never seen her so intoxicated".
What I am saying is this extreme level of intoxication would show up on the CCTV footage at the bar. You are saying it would not have.

No. I am actually saying that scanning CCTV to determine her intoxication is irrelevant when we have already established that she was drunk.

 

[Eelogical]

No. I am actually saying that scanning CCTV to determine her intoxication is irrelevant when we have already established that she was drunk.

Well, so she says. Though, I'd have to be drunk to let him mix body fluids with me.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Does it come down to how intoxicated he thought she was or how intoxicated she actually was? This is of course assuming she didn't consent. Could the accused have believed she was consenting, or should he have known, despite his own inebriation, that she was incapable of supplying consent? When there's two pissed merkins things get pretty ambiguous.

 

[T-Boon]

No. I am actually saying that scanning CCTV to determine her intoxication is irrelevant when we have already established that she was drunk.

Listen. We haven't established she was drunk. Thats what she says - thats her story. She says she was so drunk she passed out in the uber. I am saying if she WAS that drunk, "extremely drunk" it would probably be clear from the CCTV. Whereas if the CCTV shows something else we can be reasonably confident she is lying/exaggerating her level of intoxication. This case is all about how drunk she was. The police would have looked at the CCTV footage.

 

[Eelogical]

Does it come down to how intoxicated he thought she was or how intoxicated she actually was? This is of course assuming she didn't consent. Could the accused have believed she was consenting, or should he have known, despite his own inebriation, that she was incapable of supplying consent? When there's two pissed merkins things get pretty ambiguous.

Maybe he tried to land on the wrong runway.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Listen. We haven't established she was drunk. Thats what she says - thats her story. She says she was so drunk she passed out in the uber. I am saying if she WAS that drunk, "extremely drunk" it would probably be clear from the CCTV. Whereas if the CCTV shows something else we can be reasonably confident she is lying/exaggerating her level of intoxication. This case is all about how drunk she was. The police would have looked at the CCTV footage.

I said from the very start that I think what you are suggesting is possible but not likely. If the CCTV footage did in fact show she wasn't drunk and that Hayne was innocent, I think it is unlikely that she would have pursued the civil case.

Just my take.

 

[Bandwagon]

Maybe he tried to land on the wrong runway.

I'm thinking unlikely given the complaint her vag was sore for four months.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Maybe he tried to land on the wrong runway.

Well she was a virgin. They love it in the arse.

 

[Noise]

Not quite.

Really? Which part was I off?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I said from the very start that I think what you are suggesting is possible but not likely. If the CCTV footage did in fact show she wasn't drunk and that Hayne was innocent, I think it is unlikely that she would have pursued the civil case.

Just my take.

How could CCTV footage show that anyone 'wasn't drunk'? It could fail to provide evidence that someone was drunk, but the fact that you have a video footage of someone in a bar that doesn't show them showing obvious signs of intoxication does not mean that they weren't pissed (or on the way to being pissed). Similarly, the fact that you don't see them buying drinks doesn't mean that they didn't drink any.

 

[Eelogical]

I'm thinking unlikely given the complaint her vag was sore for four months.

She said she was drunk. What woman knows their ass from their vag these days?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Really? Which part was I off?

I don’t need you to summarise for me and I don’t feel the need to revise your summary into something more aligned with what I have suggested. I’ll let my more detailed posts speak for themselves.

I didn’t mean to spend all day discussing this but it is hard when so many people start responding.

Let’s just accept that we have some different views and leave it at that. I shouldn’t have called you on the ‘Wannabe virgin Christian’ comment. I should have just let it slide. Sometimes it is not worth it.

 

[Gary Gutful]

How could CCTV footage show that anyone 'wasn't drunk'? It could fail to provide evidence that someone was drunk, but the fact that you have a video footage of someone in a bar that doesn't show them showing obvious signs of intoxication does not mean that they weren't pissed (or on the way to being pissed). Similarly, the fact that you don't see them buying drinks doesn't mean that they didn't drink any.

Maybe you should ask T-Boon that question?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Maybe you should ask T-Boon that question?

I thought I did. It's your new avatar.

 

[Noise]

I'm thinking unlikely given the complaint her vag was sore for four months.

I could be way off here but is it possible that her vag was sore 4 months later because some other dude had gone to town more recently?

 

[Gary Gutful]

I thought I did. It's your new avatar.

Soz.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I hope he didn't do it.