Hayne the equal of Kenny

[Parra]

Kenny, Bozo. Pick any other two players.

These two are the best.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

At 6, you will lose his running game from the back. I don't understand why Burt and Hayne doesn't combine like that more often.

I have seen lots of time Hayne runaway from Burt and Burt runaway from Hayne

True, his kick returns are very valuable, and he still has a bit to learn about play making. Im hoping that he can follow the Darren Lockyer path and move to five eight when he starts to lose pace but gains more in the brain.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

By 1990 Kenny was setting up the tries, making most of the tackles, signing the autographs, cutting the oranges, sweeping out the sheds, marking the oval and doing whatever else had to be done.


Hayne would like to meet someone as good as Brett Kenny. Let alone be ranked with him.

By 1990, Kenny was the shadow of what he ever was thanks to his 1988 knee injury.

Before 1988 he was a great player, after 1988 he was as valuble as Mark Laurie unfortunately.

Hayne is the better player.

Just because he hasn't won a Grand final doesn't mean jacksh*t - Pearce, ET, Elias etc were all greats not to have won a GF.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Like the try he scored against St George in last year's semi-final?

I think he's at his best stepping when players are in front of him, and running straight when gaps are in front of him. Why should he change what works?

I was refering to his steps when on the kick return.

And how often have those steps worked, think back to the try he set up against Penrith when he chimed in on the blind side, a straight run, or against the Warriors where Fui passed him a ball on our own 40, he fended off one player then was sent off down field, or when we last beat Melbourne, Grothe threw him a pass and he went straight, passed it to Robson and Robson did the rest.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

They both had about a 20 metre head start on him.

Cant speak for Josh Perry, but Williams didnt.

 

[Parra]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parra
By 1990 Kenny was setting up the tries, making most of the tackles, signing the autographs, cutting the oranges, sweeping out the sheds, marking the oval and doing whatever else had to be done.


Hayne would like to meet someone as good as Brett Kenny. Let alone be ranked with him.

By 1990, Kenny was the shadow of what he ever was thanks to his 1988 knee injury.

Before 1988 he was a great player, after 1988 he was as valuble as Mark Laurie unfortunately.

Hayne is the better player.

Just because he hasn't won a Grand final doesn't mean jacksh*t - Pearce, ET, Elias etc were all greats not to have won a GF.

Why keep score then?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I was refering to his steps when on the kick return.

And how often have those steps worked, think back to the try he set up against Penrith when he chimed in on the blind side, a straight run, or against the Warriors where Fui passed him a ball on our own 40, he fended off one player then was sent off down field, or when we last beat Melbourne, Grothe threw him a pass and he went straight, passed it to Robson and Robson did the rest.

Agreed. Stepping usually doesn't work against a straight defensive line, and straight lines are exactly what Hayne sees these days when he looks up after fielding a kick (when he's not watching it bounce dead).

Cant speak for Josh Perry, but Williams didnt.

Fair enough, Williams only had a metre head start.

But Williams was able to run straight back downfield with nobody trying to stop him. Why do you think Hindy runs so many people down? It's not his speed advantage.

 

[Runaround Man]

Ridiculous exercise......

Both are gifted footballers of the highest calibre that all their comtemporaries are in awe of.

Isn't that enough?

I wonder how we will feel about Hayne if he leaves Parra one day and starts carving us up......? Kenny was an Eel for life.......that is an essential part of being a club legend isn't it??

 

[lzd]

In the one grand final Hayne has played in, he ran for more metres and broke more tackles than the Clive Churchill winner. The fact people were disappointed in his performance shows how much they had come to expect from him.

Also, Parra were underdogs in 2009, being the first team to ever make the grand final from 8th place (having been carried there by Hayne). How many times were Parra underdogs in the grand finals Kenny played in? How many internationals did he have around him?



Not true. I admit he was great in the 80's but by 1990 he was just another player.

You make some good points. Brett Kenny was and still is the best player I've ever seen on a football field. But the performance by Jarryd Hayne against manly was highly reminiscent of one of the best and most influential I've seen in a single game by an individual. The difference - Hayne did it against a Manly side (albeit in horrendous weather conditions) which probably won't trouble the top 8. Kenny did it in the 1982 grand final against Manly.

Hayne has shown he can play at a level on par with Kenny, and he's been doing it for more than half a season now. Its a fair point to ask how much longer he has to go to be considered as good as Kenny.

 

[hybrideel]

I can't believe wiki (well i guess i can) left out one of Kenny's greatest attributes. He was the intercept king. The only person to ever come near him in that regard would be Ryan Girdler

 

[hybrideel]

On the topic i don't think i'd ever try and compare players in different teams and different eras. too hard. Who's to say that Kenny wouldn't look even better if he didn't have all the stars around him and was relied on to be the attacking spark. Who's to say Hayne wouldn't be better with Thurston and Lockyer in the halves (while he played fullback)

 

[Gazzamatta]

don't worry Petey, he's not there yet...but he's not far away either ;-)

Too early to make comparisons with Ken Thornett in my opinion. Thornetts positional play was exceptional where as Haynes is average. In defence Thornett would be a mile in front at this stage of Haynes career.
So far as running the ball, Id say they are pretty equal and if you want to throw in catching the ball, then nobody would measure up to the Mayor.
No doubt Hayne may well be the equal of Thornett. We just all hope that he does reach that mantel.
I might add that I believe Im qualified to make such comments as I actually saw Thornett play.

 

[Stagger eel]

Too early to make comparisons with Ken Thornett in my opinion. Thornetts positional play was exceptional where as Haynes is average. In defence Thornett would be a mile in front at this stage of Haynes career.
So far as running the ball, Id say they are pretty equal and if you want to throw in catching the ball, then nobody would measure up to the Mayor.
No doubt Hayne may well be the equal of Thornett. We just all hope that he does reach that mantel.
I might add that I believe Im qualified to make such comments as I actually saw Thornett play.

yep, and i respect your views gazz and believe me, you're invited anytime to talk about him in here but i did make a point that he's not there yet...

btw, I am so envious of blokes like yourself, Petey, Crazy and Twizz who's actually seen the great man in the flesh..I would of given my left arm for the opportunity.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Ta Stagger. He was damn good.
I was at the Sydney Sports Ground where he played his last game after he returned for that one final year. The great man actually scored a try that day only to have it dissollowed by the referee who claimed he bounced the ball.
Pigs bum he bounced it. I thought the Parra supporters were going to lynch the referee that day.
Then there was the day at Cumberland where he actually dropped the ball from a high kick. Given that this had never happened before, he picked the ball up and examined it thoroughly to see where the fault was with the ball. A true showman was Mr Thornett.
Memories never forgotten.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Given that this had never happened before, he picked the ball up and examined it thoroughly to see where the fault was with the ball. A true showman was Mr Thornett.

F***ing showpony. Like Chopper Read and Stephen Hawking.

 

[bildo]

There is no way that Kenny needed to have good players around him to make him look good. More likely that Kenny made them look good ,with his anticipation and positional play. When he was playing for Wigan he ran riot and became an immortal with the club.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Kenny

Hayne isn't the all round package that Kenny was, but he is only young and who knows what he will eventually be capable of . He is certainly the best thing to happen to Rugby League in a long while and we are very fortunate to have him.

 

[Suitman]

There is no way that Kenny needed to have good players around him to make him look good. More likely that Kenny made them look good ,with his anticipation and positional play. When he was playing for Wigan he ran riot and became an immortal with the club.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Kenny

Hayne isn't the all round package that Kenny was, but he is only young and who knows what he will eventually be capable of . He is certainly the best thing to happen to Rugby League in a long while and we are very fortunate to have him.

I remember Kenny, when he was Hayne's age, was not the complete footballer either.
Hayne will get there, because he does the same freakish things that Kenny did at the same age - if not more.

Suity

 

[chunk]

Even though I'm not an Eels fan Brett Kenny was always one of my favourites.

Hayne has a lot to do to be as good as Kenny.... a lot!

Apart from his high level of consistency every week, Kenny was the only player to give the great Wally Lewis a run for his money.

Not sure how many Origins and tests he played but he always had a great game.

Kenny was a great defender and runner, the best swerve and change of pace I've seen with great hands.

To suggest Hayne is as good as Kenny is ludicrous..........maybe in eight years time.

 

[parra pete]

Ta Stagger. He was damn good.
I was at the Sydney Sports Ground where he played his last game after he returned for that one final year. The great man actually scored a try that day only to have it dissollowed by the referee who claimed he bounced the ball.
Pigs bum he bounced it. I thought the Parra supporters were going to lynch the referee that day.
Then there was the day at Cumberland where he actually dropped the ball from a high kick. Given that this had never happened before, he picked the ball up and examined it thoroughly to see where the fault was with the ball. A true showman was Mr Thornett.
Memories never forgotten.

Newspaper clipping of Ken Thornett's first game with the Parramatta side V Balmain at Leichhardt Oval in 1962.
"I have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord"....

 

[B-Tron 3000]

Apart from his high level of consistency every week, Kenny was the only player to give the great Wally Lewis a run for his money.

He did better than give him a run for his money, when picked at 5/8 he pissed all over him.

I think the stats are 12 games as NSW 5/8 v Wally, for 8 wins.

Why the selectors ever chose anyone there and moved him to centre is an absolute mystery.