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Hayne to 5/8th ain't happening for 5 years and that's the final word - Hayne

MrT

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As much as I admire Hayne as a player and a person (and I do), I don't like the way he says "this is where I want to play, and this is where I will play". I would have thought most players will let the coach decide these things, and work their guts out to do well in the position they've been given, just happy to be in the side.

As far as whether Hayne should change to 5/8, I don't really mind either way as long as he's playing for us.

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"this is where I want to play, and this is where I will play"

Oh don't worry, this is Hayne telling Stuart that he has no say where Hayne will play at club level. Well done for sending him that message. Kearney did the right thing by asking Hayne did he want to wear the 6 and Hayne told him he'd rather play fullback.
 

jono

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This is ridiculous. When someone decides they want to play ANY sport , wouldn't you think ANYONE would work out that they would have a preferred position? Even in my son's under-8 soccer , they ALL want to play goal-keeper(God knows why , the goalie seems to have the least action in the game , and is the one who cops the most abuse if he flops) But the coach says , OK , you can probably do it , but the team does better if you play forward. This is the essence of coach/player dialogue. Hayne wants to play fullback, Kearney says" yes that suits Parra better , but do you want to try 5/8."
Hayne says , "No , I think I go better at fullback." So the coach has the final say , but will consult the player for his input.
Why is this such a soap opera?
 

Loudstrat

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All Sticktard had to do was pick hayne at 5/8. Hayne would not have mentioned fullback.

I'm sick of people making Hayne out to be the bad one. His attitude is top notch. Twice has has taken unders to stay an Eel. Even when Smith refused to pick him in FG he didnt take off like the Williams trio did. He always played on the wing for NSW. When Sticky ignored him in the WC -he embraced the Bati jersey and had a blinder for them in the semi.

Hayne is the real deal and just because he doesnt smile or pull a stupid face hen he scores doesnt mean anything.

No one in the last 74 years has come out of our junior system with as much pride in the jersey as Hayne.
 

Kornstar

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lets be frank about this, there are 2 members of our full time squad who are probably entitled to make those sort of statements in the press 1 is Hindy the other Haynzie, every club has them and we need to be concious of their status at the club.

You are probably right in the fact that these 2 have earnt the right to say what they like but now I have to listen to every moron opposition supporter giving it to me every time we lose a game. "where was Hayne today, Hayne plane derailed" that is just the mentality BUT I hate hearing it, I never carry on like that about other teams stars when they have off games, or in Hayne's case, doest set up 10 tries and score 3!
 

spartan2153

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All Sticktard had to do was pick hayne at 5/8. Hayne would not have mentioned fullback.

I'm sick of people making Hayne out to be the bad one. His attitude is top notch. Twice has has taken unders to stay an Eel. Even when Smith refused to pick him in FG he didnt take off like the Williams trio did. He always played on the wing for NSW. When Sticky ignored him in the WC -he embraced the Bati jersey and had a blinder for them in the semi.

Hayne is the real deal and just because he doesnt smile or pull a stupid face hen he scores doesnt mean anything.

No one in the last 74 years has come out of our junior system with as much pride in the jersey as Hayne.

Wayne was just 17 when smith was in charge. He couldn't take off cause he was under contract. When he did come off contract we paved him nicely to stay. Don't kid yourself into thinking he stayed for less.
 

Stagger eel

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come on korny, you're tougher than that who really gives a shit what opposition fans think, seriously..if you're prepared to tell me that the things that Hayne says may have a detrimental effect on the side than I would probably take it on board but at the end of the day he is the sort of guy we need to revive this club out of the rut it is.
 

Poupou Escobar

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but now I have to listen to every moron opposition supporter giving it to me every time we lose a game.

Just gotta toughen up mate.

Anyone who thinks they're better than somebody else just because his team beat the other guy's is a f**king loser.

Honestly, your attitude makes me think that when we eventually do win a premiership you'll carry on like the sad deadshit Dragons fans on here.

Just because your team wins doesn't make you a winner any more than your team losing makes you a loser. Likewise with the successes and failures of the players on your team.
 

Kornstar

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come on korny, you're tougher than that who really gives a shit what opposition fans think, seriously..if you're prepared to tell me that the things that Hayne says may have a detrimental effect on the side than I would probably take it on board but at the end of the day he is the sort of guy we need to revive this club out of the rut it is.

I think what annoys me the most is that he is actually right in what he says, as arrogant as it sounds, he is generally as good as his ego leads him to believe!

The more he says the more arguments I have, gets tiring sometimes.

I know Hindy doesn't like him, that is fact and some of the other senior players who have now gone didn't like him either, that stems back to Hagan though and the stuff he let Hayne and the other "Gen Y" players get away with.

I think the most important thing for the team is not what he says in the press but how he acts at training, if he is a douche at training then it will have an affect on the team but f he is positive etc. Then what he says to journalists will mean shit!
 

Kornstar

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Just gotta toughen up mate.

Anyone who thinks they're better than somebody else just because his team beat the other guy's is a f**king loser.

Honestly, your attitude makes me think that when we eventually do win a premiership you'll carry on like the sad deadshit Dragons fans on here.

Just because your team wins doesn't make you a winner any more than your team losing makes you a loser. Likewise with the successes and failures of the players on your team.

I think you missed the part where I said I don't rub it in when other teams stars have a bad game?

I know Bulldogs supporters and when we beat them in 07 & 09, there was no peep out of me, I am not like that in the slightest.....

Not that I really give a shit what you think anyway.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I think you missed the part where I said I don't rub it in when other teams stars have a bad game?

I know Bulldogs supporters and when we beat them in 07 & 09, there was no peep out of me, I am not like that in the slightest.....

Not that I really give a shit what you think anyway.

Well mate I care what you think.
 

lingard

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lets be frank about this, there are 2 members of our full time squad who are probably entitled to make those sort of statements in the press 1 is Hindy the other Haynzie, every club has them and we need to be concious of their status at the club.


Absolutely right. Hindmarsh is a legend and Hayne is an out and out champion.
 

Eelementary

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So, the way I read everything:

* Hayne says he's not ready to play 5/8 just yet and wants to play fullback;

* Kearney has publicly agreed with this notion;

* Hayne openly admits he might end up moving to 5/8 at some point down the line;

* Hayne says he will move on from his Origin snub (and make no mistake - this was a snub) and focus on playing well for Parramatta.

...And he's labelled as an arrogant twit? Really?

I do not understand - where does the notion that Jarryd Hayne is an arrogant, petulant twit stem from? If he and his coach both publicly declare he will play fullback for this club for the foreseeable future, then I think it is acceptable for him to declare, "Fullback is where I'll play and that's the end of that chapter," as both his boss and himself have agreed on the subject.

Jarryd Hayne is what I call a true competitor, but not in the cliched, euphemistic sense of the word - he loves what he does and he hates losing. When he lashes out at teammates or referees or even opponents I do not accept that as him being petulant or arrogant, but rather competitive. He wants to win - Jarryd Hayne is a winner. He does everything humanly possible to win for his team. And who here can honestly admit they have never yelled at a teammate in the heat of battle out of frustration and/or physical and/or mental fatigue? I yelled at my teammates a few times because they were dead-set bludging - I was out there taking three hit-ups per set and some of them were standing 10 metres behind me, hands on hips, huffing and puffing, and I yelled at them. It doesn't make me arrogant, nor does it mean I'm not all about the team - it actually displays my passion for the team, and playing to the best of our abilities for the win, if you ask me.

And even if one does claim Jarryd is arrogant - so what? He is 23 years old, he has played for Australia, Fiji, NSW and in Finals football. He has already won a Dally M Medal and is regarded as one of the best players on the planet by observers who actually have half a clue about football. Add to all this he earns big dollars, and it is not too difficult to understand why a young man in his position might start to believe his own hype. But unlike so many other promising youngsters, Hayne hasn't fallen off the face of the Earth once this hype has been heaped upon him - no, he has actually risen to the challenge. He single-handedly tore the Bulldogs apart. He single-handedly set a new record for line-break assists in a single game of football. He nearly won Parramatta the game last week all on his own. He is somewhere on the top 10 in terms of try assists and other significant statistics. Basically, he has proven that the kudos he receives are well earned.

Is he the perfect player? No, but then I can't think of one player who is. But is this young man worthy of people laying off him a bit, sticking their support behind him and hoping he stays with this club that he loves (and he does love this club, let me tell you) and guides it to a Premiership? Hell yes.

I am sure Jarryd doesn't read this forum, but if he does, allow me to say: he is a mind-bogglingly talented young man who has a very humble head on his shoulders (I, and many others on here, I am sure, have had the pleasure of talking to him, and he is a very good guy) and bleeds for this club. I find it would be my absolute privilege to see him run out for my beloved Eels every week from now until he retires.

And I'd like to add - this notion that Hindmarsh hates Hayne is gibberish. Hindmarsh is an absolute legend and a gem of a man, but he has become increasingly cranky over the last 18 months or so. He is openly not a fan of "show-ponies", but then that says more about his like for old-school footballing values than his supposed hatred for Hayne. Blokes like Luke Burt, Joel Reddy, Ben Smith and Eric Grothe all speak highly of Hayne.

Wow. That was a rant. I apologise, but I feel it needed to be said.
 

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