HD, what a con..

[SpaceMonkey]

Ozbash, PM me the exact model# of your TV- I've found (and I have a fair bit of experience in this sh*t professionally) that in 90% of cases there's some way of getting the two to play nicely together.

 

[ozbash]

done

 

[LeagueNut]

lol, wtf is tardme ?

where geniuss go to buy and sell ?

:lol: :lol:
The mind boggles ......

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Ok after a bit of trawling around I found this photo of what is apparently the back panel of the new MySky box posted in another discussion:

Ozbash's telly has component inputs for HD according to the info on SOny's website. Looking at the above picture the MySky box has component outputs on top right, so you should be fine unless they've disabled them for some wierd reason. It also has SCART outputs, and Jaycar sell perfectly good SCART to component adaptors for under $50 so that could be another option for you.

 

[ozbash]

well, we got the install man coming next month so it should be interesting.

When you ask Sky, they dont know.

cheers spacey.

 

[ozbash]

Will we be able to watch the olympics in HD ?

tv1 - sky - mysky - tv ??

 

[Micistm]

rich ? haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa

the boss is.

I am pretty pissed off with this, i think Farmers sold me a tele under fals pretences..

Yeah, ya gotta watch some guys selling tech stuff, you ask em a question and they often bluff their way through. You only find this out if you do homework with online reviews first on models you're interested in.

Lol, bought a home theatre from Smiths City last year- Firstly, he swore it was multizone straight out of the box (I had to go online and find the code to unlock it or not play 80% of my movies otherwise), secondly it was the last one in the shop, but he'd just unpacked it literally as I'd come in, and it had never been used.
I got it home and it was warm...and had the Pink Floyd Pulse DVD in it.
I didn't care, just emphasises caution is needed for the consumer:lol:

 

[ozbash]

I got it home and it was warm...and had the Pink Floyd Pulse DVD in it.

ahh, the Earls Court concert wasnt it ?

most amazing thing i have seen with music.

makes ol tacki tane look like a member of The Monkeys...

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

People working in retail make about $12 an hour and are unskilled and unqualified. If they had any expertise in electronics they wouldn't be working in f*cking retail, obviously. Only complete pricks go in to a store and ask for expert technical advice, it takes you 5 seconds to go online and find that stuff out if it really matters to you.

Sorry to fire up but it really gets to me :crazy:

 

[Micistm]

People working in retail make about $12 an hour and are unskilled and unqualified. If they had any expertise in electronics they wouldn't be working in f*cking retail, obviously. Only complete pricks go in to a store and ask for expert technical advice, it takes you 5 seconds to go online and find that stuff out if it really matters to you.

Sorry to fire up but it really gets to me :crazy:

I know what you mean to a degree, you can't expect Retaillers to know everything about everything...but what fires me up equally as much is this cop out $12 an hour job gives you a licence to BS if you don't know something. Just be honest, and say you don't know!
I worked in the retail paint industry for around 20 years from school, yes the wages are as bad as you say, the hours are long, and working weekends/public holidays etc are a bummer. But it is part of your job, within reason of course, to know about what you are selling. It is as simple as that. I take your point on occasion ppl in retail are expected to provide every stat wanted on every product at the drop of a hat...and they can spend a lot of time dealing with some unpleasant people and having to smile regardless (And I know that's easier said than done I assure you), but in many cases the criticism is justified.

And yes Oz, Pulse is stunning! Sad thing is I already had it:lol: But I passed it on to a mate, as far as I was concerned the shop guy flat out lied to me twice and it was 'My name is Earl' karma coming back for him. He had my number-But after swearing hand on heart he'd just that moment taken the player out of the box I thought he may be a little embarrassed to phone...and he was;-)

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

I worked in the retail paint industry for around 20 years from school, yes the wages are as bad as you say, the hours are long, and working weekends/public holidays etc are a bummer. But it is part of your job, within reason of course, to know about what you are selling. It is as simple as that.

If your job is unskilled and unqualified work, that doesn't involve any training apart from how to operate the tills and use the store database etc, then how on earth can you be expected to know anything?

Perhaps by chance you might happen to know something about what you're selling, but it certainly isn't part of your job. Retail "salespeople" obtain jobs simply by showing up and saying they want a job. If they had any qualifications or expertise, they wouldn't work in retail.

F*ck I hate my job lol

 

[hitman82]

Some valid points but overall a gross exaggeration.

There is always someone in a store of that kind with a decent knowledge to answer customer quesions. If not the particular salesperson you strike, then at least an appliance manager etc.

Some floor salespeople are indeed uneducated in their products, and simply point out the "wow" features from the catalogue in order to hustle a sale, but there are some (I know a couple) who are pretty well educated in their field.

Personally I would never work in retail. Screw that.

And having said that, I use the net to research almost anything, largely because I wouldn't trust any moron to give me correct answers. Also why I never buy parts from Repco.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

And having said that, I use the net to research almost anything, largely because I wouldn't trust any moron to give me correct answers. Also why I never buy parts from Repco.

Funnily I actually find Repco pretty good here in Sydney, although thats probably because my local Repco is basically a trade store. They're certainly a lot better than Super Cheap Auto, who seem to always be staffed by complete turkeys.

 

[hitman82]

Haha, I do the exact opposite here in Wellington.
Every time I get something from Repco they manage to give me the wrong part, and I hate having to go back and exchange them. Our ones seem to focus on tacky car adornments and low quality sound gear than quality trade parts though.
Super Cheap have always been better for me.

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Some valid points but overall a gross exaggeration.

There is always someone in a store of that kind with a decent knowledge to answer customer quesions. If not the particular salesperson you strike, then at least an appliance manager etc.

Some floor salespeople are indeed uneducated in their products, and simply point out the "wow" features from the catalogue in order to hustle a sale, but there are some (I know a couple) who are pretty well educated in their field.

Personally I would never work in retail. Screw that.

I think you got the wrong end of the stick.

I wasn't bagging out retail salespeople, I was sticking up for them.

The nature of the job (low pay, no qualifications necessary, no training, no opportunity to actually use the products you are supposed to be selling) is such that people working in retail shouldn't be expected to know anything. Customers are damn lucky that they often come across either intelligent students who happen to enter the job with some knowledge of the area in question, or educated immigrants who can't do any better because no-one recognises their qualifications.

If you're dopey enough, in the information age, to walk in to a store clueless and start grilling the first poor name-badge wearing individual you find with 21 questions, you deserve to be ripped off tbh.

ftr I'm just on the cusp of moving from 2 years of retail to my "real job", and it's been a real eye-opener to the fact that pretty much everyone is a complete wanker. A real change from my previous job in a government department, which was a breeze :lol:

 

[hitman82]

Oh I get your point now, fair enough.

I work for a government department too and it's so cruisy it's a joke. Hence my current posting!

 

[Micistm]

If your job is unskilled and unqualified work, that doesn't involve any training apart from how to operate the tills and use the store database etc, then how on earth can you be expected to know anything?

Perhaps by chance you might happen to know something about what you're selling, but it certainly isn't part of your job. Retail "salespeople" obtain jobs simply by showing up and saying they want a job. If they had any qualifications or expertise, they wouldn't work in retail.

F*ck I hate my job lol

Again, I see what you are getting at, but IMO you are confusing retail staff with checkout operators!
So what you are saying is you do not need to know anything about the products you're selling?! That may work in certain retail outlets, such as groceries, and maybe to a lesser degree self service stores like the Warehouse (although there will still be someone senior somewhere for each dept to call on), but not all.
That's what the fair trading act is for!
Seriously-Do you honestly believe that if a customer asks you question about an item, and the person in question bluffs an answer- If the customer comes back with the product which doesn't do what it was supposed to and what was promised- 'I'm only on $12 an hour' is decent excuse?
It's not really the topic to debate this point in I suppose, but I honestly think if you truely believe it is not your job to know about the products you sell...well I just find that quite astounding, and can't believe that way of thinking. Ultimately in retail you should be as helpful as possible, and that was one of the aspects I loved when working in retail, helping people.

Man. If I'd had that attitude in a shop, not bothering to find out the correct paint for correct surfaces/procedures and said to the customer, "You work it out, it's not my job, I'm only here to operate the till" ...Wow.
I'm not sure what retail situation you work in, but most I know have training courses on products. If it's not part of your job why have those?

 

[Micistm]

Added footnote- I was a page behind with your posts Manu, and I do take your point in regard to 'shouldn't' have to know about the products. In an ideal World.
I do feel you're being a little harsh to people in general though. I felt when working there you got treated the way you treated- your own attitude bounced back to you. Sure, you'll always get that 10% of arseholes who'll ruin your day, but that happens everywhere! 90% of people are just people, and nice enough. I suppose everyone's experience is different though