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Heads up boys, we could have a player boycott on our hands

bileduct

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But it does benefit all clubs, the clubs which have mismanaged their caps get a reprieve, but all the other clubs get to bring forward some payments if they don't want to add more depth to there squads and thus free up more money for resignings etc.
The problem is player availability for all clubs.

At this point in the year anyone who is already playing the game and wants to play the game in 2013 is going to be locked up in some kind of contract. So why not wait until 2014?

The salary cap was put there to spread the playing talent across all 16 clubs. Not to be upped every time a situation arises such as the current one where someone who took a gigantic turd on the NRL wants to come crawling back because he was too shit at AFL.

Any adjustments to the cap should be announced at least 12 months in advance of the playing season so that all clubs can approach player recruitment and retention on the same level.
 

bileduct

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Plenty of people suggested that the NRL should've fronted Izzy a marketing deal
... the f**k?

Why on earth should any additional NRL money be spent on bringing this absolute piece of shit back to our game? This so called super-athlete was f**king terrible at AFL yet was happy to take $1.5 million a year to do little more than be used as a weapon against the NRL.

His pockets have already been lined, and the greedy merkin left the Mormon Church to avoid paying his tithe.

I'd prefer to see promotional money go to players who have been loyal to the game, not an ass clown like f**kau.
 

Dogs Of War

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The problem is player availability for all clubs.

At this point in the year anyone who is already playing the game and wants to play the game in 2013 is going to be locked up in some kind of contract. So why not wait until 2014?

The salary cap was put there to spread the playing talent across all 16 clubs. Not to be upped every time a situation arises such as the current one where someone who took a gigantic turd on the NRL wants to come crawling back because he was too shit at AFL.

Any adjustments to the cap should be announced at least 12 months in advance of the playing season so that all clubs can approach player recruitment and retention on the same level.

Should the players wait another season though? What if it's your last few years in the game. How is it fair that you miss out even though your contribution to the game assisted the game in getting the great TV deal.

You can't look at the shortsighted view that the NRL decided on the lower cap, cause it was the players who play each week who made that happened in a lot of respects, and thus should be rewarded with a percentage of the games windfall.
 

bileduct

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Should the players wait another season though? What if it's your last few years in the game. How is it fair that you miss out even though your contribution to the game assisted the game in getting the great TV deal.

You can't look at the shortsighted view that the NRL decided on the lower cap, cause it was the players who play each week who made that happened in a lot of respects, and thus should be rewarded with a percentage of the games windfall.
I would support the cap being increased if it meant that all players currently under contract received a percentage increase to make up the difference.

It should not be used to allow clubs to sign new players (f**kau), or retain existing players that they can no longer afford (Stewart).
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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They deserve their cut, the players. particularly the minimum wage earners. 55k is nothing. What if they get injured, cut from the roster and can't meet teh demands of the blue collar work, which for most of them, would be their only skill?

Welfare needs to be better looked after. The game didn't get the cash for anything other than the NRL product, so pay the men FFS.
 

Knownothing

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They deserve their cut, the players. particularly the minimum wage earners. 55k is nothing. What if they get injured, cut from the roster and can't meet teh demands of the blue collar work, which for most of them, would be their only skill?

Welfare needs to be better looked after. The game didn't get the cash for anything other than the NRL product, so pay the men FFS.


A more intelligent approach might be to spend some of the money ensuring that the many players with blue collar skills have the qualifications and training to get into something better when their short (and in most cases, not very rewarding) sporting career is over.
 

Frailty

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Should the players wait another season though? What if it's your last few years in the game. How is it fair that you miss out even though your contribution to the game assisted the game in getting the great TV deal.

You can't look at the shortsighted view that the NRL decided on the lower cap, cause it was the players who play each week who made that happened in a lot of respects, and thus should be rewarded with a percentage of the games windfall.

The players are already contracted though, so any increase wouldn't affect the overall figure earned during that contract, unless there is a clause about an increase in the cap.
 

bileduct

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A more intelligent approach might be to spend some of the money ensuring that the many players with blue collar skills have the qualifications and training to get into something better when their short (and in most cases, not very rewarding) sporting career is over.
Isn't that happening under the new deal?

I'm sure I read somewhere that clubs were starting to do this. May have just been the Raiders, though.
 

Frailty

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Isn't that happening under the new deal?

I'm sure I read somewhere that clubs were starting to do this. May have just been the Raiders, though.

I know Cronulla has a lot of players doing University studies so they have qualifications after they finish their football career. I believe this is one reason John Morris took a one year deal at Cronulla (to finish his ongoing studies) rather than doing a retirement contract in England.
 

Knownothing

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Isn't that happening under the new deal?

I'm sure I read somewhere that clubs were starting to do this. May have just been the Raiders, though.



The Storm used to insist that every new recruit did some study, for a trade or other qualification. Not sure about the other franchises, I suppose it varies.

There is no point insisting that players go through the motions, money and other resources have to be put into life education, with an emphasis on life after the short time playing as a professional.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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A more intelligent approach might be to spend some of the money ensuring that the many players with blue collar skills have the qualifications and training to get into something better when their short (and in most cases, not very rewarding) sporting career is over.

Yep. Thats what I was getting at with the welfare line.
 

Springs

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We're always hearing how the RLPA is fighting for the little guys and not just the stars. I think we should give them something. But call their bluff and give it all to them as a raise in the minimum wage rather than a top up for the Greg Inglis's or a free pass to sign Israel Folau.

Leigh.

That's what they should be fighting for. The top players already get paid enough. It's laughable to think that some players should be paid 20x more than others.

They should also be fighting for the fact that fans and players should have a say in big changes to the game. We are playing the game, not businessmen in an office who think they have the right to tell us what's good for us and what's not.
 

Hanscholo

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Cap should have been sorted out a long time ago. Ridiculous some clubs are a month into pre-season and we're still talking about the final figure.

The cap has been the same for years. Its no the ARLC's fault that two clubs one of which has just plain gone over their cap and been busted in manly, and the other is greedily trying to buy israel folau.

Who said it was changing?
 

firechild

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The cap has been the same for years. Its no the ARLC's fault that two clubs one of which has just plain gone over their cap and been busted in manly, and the other is greedily trying to buy israel folau.

Who said it was changing?

Busted? Hardly. Manly approached Shubert about the situation.

Plus, the salary cap has not been the same for years. It has gone up from $4.25 to $5 million. The $5 mill figure was given to the clubs as a guide only and has not been finalised yet.
 

B-Tron 3000

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The broadcasting rights deal was made after clubs had already pretty much finalised their squads for 2013.

Raising the salary cap at this point of the year only benefits clubs who have mismanaged their caps and are looking to sign turncoat douchebags.

Any serious business would have known the ballpark for the broadcast rights deal and begun negotations with the union / clubs etc months before it was finalised.

This has all been cocked up because they were not on the front foot in the first place.

Then they compound things by saying they are open to discuss it.

Complete and utter balls up. What a surprise.
 

Dogs Of War

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The players are already contracted though, so any increase wouldn't affect the overall figure earned during that contract, unless there is a clause about an increase in the cap.

Who knows how it plays out unless the money is available to actually do something with it.
 

Desert Qlder

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After reviewing the reports, there is no doubt in my mind the the "All Star boycott" is an entirely fictitious element concocted by news ltd. hacks.
 

papabear

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moving the salary cap up just artificially increases the players wages.

Save the money spend it on promotion of the NRL and on junior rugby league.
 

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