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Hitler : The Rise Of Evil.
I thought it was quite good tbh. Robert Carlyle was brilliant.
Don't get me wrong it was a good series, I just couldn't get past the British accents everyone was sporting.
Hitler : The Rise Of Evil.
I thought it was quite good tbh. Robert Carlyle was brilliant.
i know its a nothing issue, but when people use american accents in movies based in rome or medieval england, i know theyre trying to market the film and no-one can really be sure what accents where used, but when most of medieval england sounds like the cast of greys anatomy it kinda bugs me
300 is biased greek propaganda that I assume was just made up by people like herodotus. So its pretty true to the source (although they didn;t say the Persians were literally monsters or anything)
it would be like if I made a movie in 2000 years that was based on a comic book that was based on Skeepes forum posts about the refs. It would probably seem like it was pretty unrealistic but it would be at least true to the source material.
You should watch Downfall if you haven't already
There's some historical innacuracies in Transformers 3, America and Russia didn't stop landing on the moon because of the Deceptacons. :sarcasm:
300 is biased greek propaganda that I assume was just made up by people like herodotus. So its pretty true to the source (although they didn;t say the Persians were literally monsters or anything
braveheart
fact: edward ii is shown as a twinkie style gay, when he in fact he was supposed to be very butch.
fact: their was a bridge involved in the battle of sterling.
oh dear... :lol:
I dont really get into the inaccuracies too much, but there is a few movies that made me laugh.
Red Oktober - Connery accent for a russian commander was hilarious.
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What stretches the limits of hypocrisy is that there isn't a single shred of archeological evidence that the Persians ever owned slaves. Yet we know that slavery was an integral cornerstone of Greek society. Aristotle's manifesto even sanctions it. Persia, which was once a haven for runaway slaves from Egypt, Greece, and later Rome, is today branded as a slave-hungry empire by cultures which were built on slavery!
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Democracy may well be the best form of government. But what makes America great is not so much democracy, as it is its Bill Of Rights. And this is exactly what made Persia Great. Democracy can often lead to tyranny by the majority as was the case in democratic Athens, where women, slaves and foreigners did not have the right to vote.
In monarchic Persia, however, women enjoyed a level of gender equality unmatched even to this day, and slavery was not practiced. The fact is, Persia's monarchy was more free than Athens' democracy, all because of Persia's Bill Of Rights.
No one exemplifies Persia's freedom better than Herodotus himself. He describes Athens as the bastion of freedom, yet he chose to live in Persia. Xenophon, on the other hand, who actually lived in Athens, reminisces enviously about the monarchy of Cyrus The Great.
Herodotus claims Persia had enslaved most of the known world, yet we know Herodotus was not a slave. He traveled freely throughout the empire, openly criticizing it.
Why did Herodotus not live in Greece? Because Persia - the empire he is so quick to demonize - afforded him the very freedom to publish his scathing report of it. People want to live where their god-given rights are protected, regardless of whether its democratic or monarchic.
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Persia's 9/11:
In 498 BCE, Athens carried out a terrorist attack on Sardis, a major Persian city, which made 9/11 seem like child's play. Aristagoras, an Athenian, set fire to the "outlying parts" of Sardis trapping most of its population "in a ring of fire." (Herodotus 5:101)
More innocent civilians died at the hands of Aristagoras than Osama bin Laden could ever hope to kill. And just as most of the world supported America's retaliation against Al Qaeda, so did it rally in support of Persia's attack on Athens.
The Spartans were not even targets of Persia's attack, until they violated a universal protocol by killing a Persian messenger who Herodotus claims was asking for Sparta's submission but in reality was probably sent by Persia's king, Xerxes to convey the same message America sent to the entire world after 9/11: "you're either with us, or against us."
The Spartans were Greek Jihadists who lived only to die. They were by all accounts ruthless savages who murdered Greek slaves known as "Helots" just for sport, cultivated a culture of thievery and rape, and practiced infanticide, as the movie '300' rightly points out in its opening scenes. Sparta was not even democratic. It was an oligarchy at best. Despite knowing all this, the West continues to hail the Spartans as the saviors of Western democracy.
Yes, the Spartans died fighting a foreign invader. But so do countless terrorists. Yet few would consider them "good guys." Those who do are then not much different from Westerners who cheer for the Spartans.
Persia was drawn into a protracted war against terror, much the same way the U.S. was. Cheering for the Spartans merely because they were underdogs, is like cheering for Osama bin Laden today.
Herodotus was pretty inaccurate/biased as he was in the business of selling stories to the the Ancient Greeks.
Most of his account of the Persian war to me rings as pure bullshit. There are too many "moral" stories like Xerxes being so confident in the victory at Salamis that he built a gigantic chair to watch the battle. This is a classic example of Greek hubris and nemesis which are two important aspects of their story telling.
So yes the source material for the battle of Thermopylae is utterly ridiculous and far out there anyway.
Lets keep in mind that Herodotus also made the following claims in his histories: Black people ejaculate black semen, there are ants the size of dogs in India that can sniff out gold, the pyramid of cheops was paid for by prostituting out his daughter (who would collect a little brick every time she had sex with a client AND ONE OF THE SMALLER PYRAMIDS WAS MADE OUT OF THESE BRICKS AM I RITE GUYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
Herodotus as a source is just pure Greek propaganda
and thats why its barely taken seriously as a historical work outside of "well I suppose this was a pretty decent attempt at history for the time".
Probably the most offensive thing about 300 from a historical inaccurate point is that in case people don't have eyes Persians (Iranians) and Greeks actually have the same colour skin and I didn't like the racial undertones that Snyder inserted into the film.
Hah. That sounds like a load of rubbish to me, quite frankly. The school of thought you mentioned, I mean.There is actually a school of thought (outside the mainstream of course) that Herodotus made up the entire thing or that the Persians actually sent a tiny little raiding party rather than an invasion fleet. That said there is NO WAY that his claimed numbers could be correct imo anyway but estimating numbers in antiquity was a difficult thing. Even the Romans who had perfected the art its difficult to trust numbers. I find it somewhat difficult to believe that nearly 100, 000 Romans died at Cannae but thats the upper claim historically. I mean thats in a single day like 1/10th~ of people killed at Stalingrad. Its pretty safe to just take a third or something off every ancient number. *nerdsout*
1. There may be scarce archaeological evidence but there is a decent amount of relevant written evidence regarding slaves in the Persian Empire.What stretches the limits of hypocrisy is that there isn't a single shred of archeological evidence that the Persians ever owned slaves. Yet we know that slavery was an integral cornerstone of Greek society. Aristotle's manifesto even sanctions it. Persia, which was once a haven for runaway slaves from Egypt, Greece, and later Rome, is today branded as a slave-hungry empire by cultures which were built on slavery!
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Democracy may well be the best form of government. But what makes America great is not so much democracy, as it is its Bill Of Rights. And this is exactly what made Persia Great. Democracy can often lead to tyranny by the majority as was the case in democratic Athens, where women, slaves and foreigners did not have the right to vote.
In monarchic Persia, however, women enjoyed a level of gender equality unmatched even to this day, and slavery was not practiced. The fact is, Persia's monarchy was more free than Athens' democracy, all because of Persia's Bill Of Rights.
No one exemplifies Persia's freedom better than Herodotus himself. He describes Athens as the bastion of freedom, yet he chose to live in Persia. Xenophon, on the other hand, who actually lived in Athens, reminisces enviously about the monarchy of Cyrus The Great.
Herodotus claims Persia had enslaved most of the known world, yet we know Herodotus was not a slave. He traveled freely throughout the empire, openly criticizing it.
Why did Herodotus not live in Greece? Because Persia - the empire he is so quick to demonize - afforded him the very freedom to publish his scathing report of it. People want to live where their god-given rights are protected, regardless of whether its democratic or monarchic.
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Persia's 9/11:
In 498 BCE, Athens carried out a terrorist attack on Sardis, a major Persian city, which made 9/11 seem like child's play. Aristagoras, an Athenian, set fire to the "outlying parts" of Sardis trapping most of its population "in a ring of fire." (Herodotus 5:101)
More innocent civilians died at the hands of Aristagoras than Osama bin Laden could ever hope to kill. And just as most of the world supported America's retaliation against Al Qaeda, so did it rally in support of Persia's attack on Athens.
The Spartans were not even targets of Persia's attack, until they violated a universal protocol by killing a Persian messenger who Herodotus claims was asking for Sparta's submission but in reality was probably sent by Persia's king, Xerxes to convey the same message America sent to the entire world after 9/11: "you're either with us, or against us."
The Spartans were Greek Jihadists who lived only to die. They were by all accounts ruthless savages who murdered Greek slaves known as "Helots" just for sport, cultivated a culture of thievery and rape, and practiced infanticide, as the movie '300' rightly points out in its opening scenes. Sparta was not even democratic. It was an oligarchy at best. Despite knowing all this, the West continues to hail the Spartans as the saviors of Western democracy.
Yes, the Spartans died fighting a foreign invader. But so do countless terrorists. Yet few would consider them "good guys." Those who do are then not much different from Westerners who cheer for the Spartans.
Persia was drawn into a protracted war against terror, much the same way the U.S. was. Cheering for the Spartans merely because they were underdogs, is like cheering for Osama bin Laden today.
The Histories 3.101.1-2 said:These Indians whom I have described have intercourse openly like cattle; they are all black-skinned, like the Ethiopians.[2] Their semen too, which they ejaculate into the women, is not white like other men's, but black like their skin, and resembles in this respect that of the Ethiopians. These Indians dwell far away from the Persians southwards, and were not subjects of King Darius.
The Histories 3.102-5: said:102. There are others of the Indians who are neighbors of the city of Caspatyrus and the Pactyic country, north of the rest of India, and these live much like the Bactrians. They are the most warlike of the Indians, and it is they who go in quest of the gold; for in these parts all is desert because of the sand. In this desert, and sand, there are ants that are in bigness lesser than dogs but larger than foxes. Some of them have been hunted and captured and kept at the palace of the Persian king. These ants make their dwelling underground, digging out the sand in much the same fashion as ants do in Greece, and they are also very like them in form. The sand that they dig out has gold in it. The Indians start off into the desert to get at this sand. Each of the hunters harnesses together three camels, a male on either side, on a trace, and the female in the middle, on which the rider is mounted. He takes care that this mare camel should have offspring as young as possible, from which she has been taken away for the ride. Among these people, camels are every bit as quick as horses, apart from being far more capable of carrying burdens.