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Vicious

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SouthernTiger said:
of course it was sinister max. A comment was made about Pearce that was totally unrelated to his coaching ability yet you had to bring that up. Mate I have no problem with your comment. I couldnt care less what people think about Pearce's coaching ability. I was merely pointing out that 851 had sub-grade 1 comprehension skills

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s. tiger
Ask a new addition to our coaching staff what he thaught about Junior as a coach?"Wouldn`t coach a choko vine over a ***house fence"!Tommy was just as bad,but who cares they`re both gone now.
 

SouthernTiger

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Mate I dont think you can use Terry Hill as a great source on coaching credentials. Name more than two coaches he has played for that he actually still likes but that being said I have no wish to defend Pearce's coaching ability

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Gobbso

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Snide the Tiger said:
Brash also played 10 years for Balmain buddy!!!

But we don't hand out f**king life memberships to turn-coat mercenaries!!!!

Tommy's heart and support will always be with the Magpies. Sure he went to Newtown, but not many people realise is that, yes he did sign because of the attractive offer Singo put to him, but he cried and apologised to Coach Roy Masters and the football club when realising what he had done. Western Suburbs gave him everything he ever dreamed off, and he still acknowledges that till this very day and and until they lay him 6ft in the ground. He's a Magpie Forever.
 

Gobbso

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Snide the Tiger said:
Raudonikis is simply not smart enough to be a top grade coach (that is why he was relegated to selling tomatoes when he had no league based job)!!!!

Mate Tommy was passionate and must not have been all that bad. His first year at Western Suburbs in '95 he managed to pick the Magpies up off the bottom of the comp and finished 12 in a 20 team comp. the following year, he took a team of kids and no bodies to the finals. '97 he won an Origin series. '98 and '99 he took some bad advice and cut half the established squafd from that '96 and '97 season, which ultimately lead to the darkest years in the Magpies 92 year history. He wasn't as bad as everyone makes out to be. Sure he was the most tactical coach going around, but he did a bloody good job with the cattle he had on hand at the cash strapped Magpies.
 

yappy

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Snide, letting Max get to you should in no way excuse you from making comments like Brash had more dominance than Tommy. I mean seriously mate, Brash was a fine, fine player, but Raudonikis was virtually unchallenged as Australian half for a decade. He might not have been a half in the same style as the Sterlo's or Joey's but he was f*ckn dominant alright.

As for coaching ability, no one tries to claim Tommy was a supercoach, but he at least made one finals series, which is more than Junior could ever achieve with at least comparable cattle. You don't need to bag off Tommy, to make your valid points about Pearce's coaching deficiencies. Neither were coaches backsides, both were awesome players, who made the most out of limited abilities through unsurpassed commitment. Of such things are champions made, but not coaches it would seem.

One thing that has to be said for Tommy though was that he could lift ordinary teams to great heights for a short time. His career in Brisbane demonstrated this. I think it was Ipswich he took from the spoon to the Final in short time. What his career does demonstrate though is that he didn't have the ability to build lasting success. He lifted every team he coached, then they fell back to where they were or worse. Wests management's greatest mistake was to not be mindful of this demonstrated pattern and make longer term plans for life after Tommy, but I suppose it's a pretty tough thing to look to replace a coach who has lifted you to the finals.
 

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Well said! I grew up in the inner-west,played in the Balmain juniors,but supported Newtown because I idolised Tommy.Once the Jets got the boot I supported the Magpies because it was Tommys other team and was delighted when he took over coaching.However,I agree 100% with what Yappys saying that Tommy stayed on coaching a couple of seasons too long!
 

magpiemax

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Snide the Tiger said:
Max just makes me bitter and twisted at times Gobbs - I'll give Tommy his dues!!
SURE LET'S BLAME THE CABBIE!! Dont suppose any of you are actually Mark Latham??? ;-)
 

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