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Hopes grow of Rabbitohs' return to boutique Redfern

Big-Steve

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/league/hopes-grow-of-rabbitohs-return-to-boutique-redfern/2005/06/27/1119724580328.html

Hopes grow of Rabbitohs' return to boutique Redfern
By Roy Masters
June 28, 2005


A meeting last week involving Rabbitohs officials and the executive of Sydney City Council has offered hope for the re-development of Redfern Oval and abandoned any thought of a move to Gosford.

A 12,000-seat boutique stadium at Redfern, built by the time the club's three-year contract to play games at Telstra Stadium from 2006 concludes, is the Rabbitohs' prime objective.

The foundation club's optimism is based on Lord Mayor Clover Moore's deferral of plans to pull down antiquated Redfern Oval, and subsequent talks on June 22 attended by chief executive Shane Richardson, Leagues Club president George Piggins, union official Tony Papa and the chief executive of Sydney City Council, Peter Seamer.

The Rabbitohs' conviction to entrench themselves in their burrow comes as the league world buzzes with rumours a move to Gosford is imminent.

Melbourne Storm officials are resigned to losing half Matt Orford and centre Stephen Bell, partly because Orford, a Central Coast product, harbours hope he will play at Gosford.

Greg Willett, the manager of the Bulldogs' Braith Anasta, has admitted one of the major barriers to his client signing with the Rabbitohs is the mooted move.
"My worry is Souths going to the Central Coast," Willett said. "If they move, it would cost him another $30,000 travelling there."

But the Rabbitohs are adamant they are staying at Redfern. "There is as much chance of us moving to the Central Coast as a fly in hell," Richardson said. "The council lately has been bending over backwards to help us. We're trying to get the capacity of Redfern Oval to 12,000 to play some NRL games there.

"Our deal with Telstra is three years with a three-year option our way. It means at the end of each year of the option period, we can look at progress at Redfern."

Souths officials accuse the NRL, keen on reducing the number of Sydney teams and exploiting a new market on the Central Coast, of initiating the misinformation campaign of a possible switch.

NRL chief executive David Gallop said: "Driven by us solely? No. But Souths and others have been encouraged to explore the option. A move from their heartland has risks and potential."

The Rabbitohs point to the economic folly of accepting an $8 million relocation allowance when $5m is raised annually in sponsorship from South Sydney sponsors.

"Why jump for $8m when we wouldn't be South Sydney after a few years?" one director said.

South Sydney board met last Thursday and directors were unanimous that relocation was not an option.

A letter was tabled from South Sydney Junior League's president Frank Cookson expressing the view his rich mine of talent would be closed if the senior club relocated.

Cookson pointed out that during the two years Souths were excluded from the NRL not one Souths junior progressed to an NRL club, while identifying a half dozen future stars now playing with the Rabbitohs.

Interestingly, some directors feel they have a moral obligation to North Sydney not to invade the Gosford turf.

"North Sydney got dudded by the NRL," one director said. "They are a great club which contributed to the game and it would be immoral to take away their glimmer of hope by moving to where they want to be."

The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU), which has imposed a "red and green" ban on Redfern Oval preventing any demolition work, has also received a letter from the Bears asking for support.

Papa, a CFMEU official, said: "Norths got a raw deal. They've sought our support and have it."

While Papa agreed the talks with Sydney Council were positive, he says Moore's definition of "passive recreation" at Redfern was at odds with the Rabbitohs' dream of a stadium.

"We want fencing so we can charge the audience, while the Council is looking at mobile barriers," Papa said. "They want people walking their dogs to be able to stroll in off the street and watch the game."

Sydney Council's Seamer said a 12,000-seat stadium was not an option, but a facility to accommodate 12,000 was feasible.

"We're seeking a middle ground which would satisfy South Sydney's needs, junior football and local residents," he said.

Moore said the talks were "positive but hypothetical."

"Nothing is fait accompli until it goes before a full meeting of Council," she said.
 

MightySharks

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12,000? That won't be enough if they start to win games.( if that ever happens) It is not a boutique stadium as they call it, it is just small. Looks like we will have to punt South Sydney again, will they ever learn?
 

izzo

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it would of been cool pre-clover moore times - isnt she putting a bloody park in the middle of pitt street? lol
 

RainMan

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They will still move to the Central Coast. The carrot dangling from the NRL is to good to refuse. Souths will need it if they fork out the 'alleged' contracts to Anasta and Orford, Bell etc.
 
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MightySharks said:
12,000? That won't be enough if they start to win games.( if that ever happens) It is not a boutique stadium as they call it, it is just small. Looks like we will have to punt South Sydney again, will they ever learn?

I dont think that 3 games there per year would be that bad, lets face it they'd pack it to the rafters and it would help satisfy those nutty tradionilists!
 
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MightySharks said:
12,000? That won't be enough if they start to win games.( if that ever happens) It is not a boutique stadium as they call it, it is just small. Looks like we will have to punt South Sydney again, will they ever learn?

I dont think that 3 games there per year would be that bad, lets face it they'd pack it to the rafters and it would help satisfy those nutty tradionilists!
 

MightySharks

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Knight82 said:
I dont think that 3 games there per year would be that bad, lets face it they'd pack it to the rafters and it would help satisfy those nutty tradionilists!

So you would be happy for 20million of your taxes to be used to build a stadium that is used three times a year? Do it properly souths build a 20k stadium or nothing.
 
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Yeah thats true it does seem a bit of a waste with Telstra and Aussie just sitting there thats for sure.

And correct decent cover from rain and sun should be essential in planning for new stadiums!
 

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I'm all behind the Bunnies staying in Sydney, but going back to Redfern is a ridiculous idea.
 

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RainMan said:
They will still move to the Central Coast. The carrot dangling from the NRL is to good to refuse. Souths will need it if they fork out the 'alleged' contracts to Anasta and Orford, Bell etc.

Which carrot is that? $8m? laugh
Why would Souths move for $8,000,000 when they raise around $5,000,000 annually in sponsorship in Sydney?

Souths are finally getting their act together and it is scaring a lot of people
 

Beaches Boy

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It will never be built! not unless Souths can come up with the money themselves. The state government is not going to spend money on another football ground when we do not have enough money to spend on Hospitals, Schools & Transport. You can spit at Aussie Studium from Redfern and that is where Souths should play, if they can't make a go of it there, they do not deserve to be in the NRL plain and simple.
 

RainMan

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Seano said:
Which carrot is that? $8m? laugh
Why would Souths move for $8,000,000 when they raise around $5,000,000 annually in sponsorship in Sydney?

Souths are finally getting their act together and it is scaring a lot of people

Its the bums on seats that Souths are worried about. Their support is dismal hence a 12k seat stadium, how pathetic really.
 

Green Machine

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Aboriginal group wants to run Redfern Oval

By Stephen Gibbs
June 4, 2005


An Aboriginal group with a billion-dollar chequebook wants to turn Redfern Oval into the cultural, social and sporting centre for Sydney's indigenous community.

The Indigenous Land Corporation's proposal - and its land-buying fund of $1.3 billion - is the reason City of Sydney Council has given for deferring for a month a decision on the future of the traditional home of the Rabbitohs.

Powerful Aboriginal interests that support rugby league in the area are driving the latest efforts to stop the city bulldozing the oval and turning the site into public open space.

The Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council, until now silent on the oval's future, has told the Herald it will stand firmly with the club to redevelop the oval for rugby league.

The corporation has alerted the Lord Mayor, Clover Moore, to its policy in a letter.

"The ILC strongly believes that there is a significant opportunity for it to develop Redfern Oval as a positive centrepiece for the indigenous people of not only Redfern, but the greater Sydney area," wrote its chairwoman, Shirley McPherson.

"Redfern Oval could be transformed into a venue that would become the focus of indigenous cultural, social and sporting excellence for Sydney's indigenous population."

The letter was sent on the day the council's environment and heritage committee was to consider an internal report recommending the ground's structures be demolished and replaced by a playing field open to the street.

Cr Moore says the $19million redevelopment would facilitate junior clubs and schools sports competitions, training and occasional games for South Sydney, the annual Koori Cup knockout matches and public recreation.

The corporation's letter did not mention the South Sydney Rabbitohs, but the club's chairman, George Piggins, said the corporation wanted Redfern Oval to be the home of the Rabbitohs and to host rugby league games.

"In a sense, it's another proposal," Mr Piggins said. "They'd buy it and develop it as a sporting venue for the community.

"Redfern Oval means a lot to the Aboriginal people of Redfern. They've let the City of Sydney Council know they don't expect to sit back and just let it go."

Mr Piggins had proposed funding a six-storey stadium, seating 14,000 spectators and providing facilities for community groups, through the sale of the Souths leagues club premises and proceeds from retail operations on the site.

But he said the club would be happy with a grandstand to seat up to 7000 people. An enclosed ground would retain the spectator hills but be open to the public when not being used for league games.

A spokesman for the metropolitan council's chairman, Rob Welsh, said: "The land council supports George's proposal to redevelop the oval. The Aboriginal community strongly wants Redfern Oval to remain a rugby league ground."
 

Tidus_Raider

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I'm all for souths staying in Sydney. Once they get a competitive side they will start getting their crowds back. BEsides I thik the the Central Coast people not fully support a local team unless it's the Bears. It has been engrained into their menatlity.

12K for a stadium is not enough though. Should be atleast 20K.

It's a pitty that NSW's politicians aren't as helpful to the states #1 code like the QLD govt is. They are building Gold Coast a new fricken stadium...
 

Copa

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Tidus_Raider said:
BEsides I thik the the Central Coast people not fully support a local team unless it's the Bears. It has been engrained into their menatlity.
...
You're kidding aren't you.
 

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