Hoppa = 17 weeks suspension and sacked.

[BD5733]

A shame to see his career end like this. He really was a very good player when he wasn't acting like a dope.

I agree.

I might be the only one (and I'll probably get blasted for this), but I think 17 weeks is a tad harsh, especially considering Danny Williams only got one more for deliberately king hitting an opposition player when he had his back turned.

If it was anyone but Hoppa, the suspension would have been far, far less.

I know he is an idiot and brings it onto himself, but I do feel sorry for him in a weird kind of way. He had the talent - just not the brains.

Agree with these sentiments. Although I dont think it is too harsh, the two incidents are not in the same league. Williams got off lightly if you compare the two.

bullsh*t! A) O'Neill's back wasn't turned, watch the video, and B), Galloway wasn't watching either... no difference at all, except that an elbow/forearm can cause more damage. Fair decision by all IMO

If you think there was no difference between the two incidents, well.......Im stumped as to how to explain it to you. Probably statr with the differences between boxing and rugby league.

 

[Sea_Eagles_Rock]

Disappointing, but had to happen. I don't think it would have mattered if it was 5 weeks, he was always going to be gone.

All the Best Hoppa

 

[chemicalbrother]

A shame to see his career end like this. He really was a very good player when he wasn't acting like a dope.

I agree.

I might be the only one (and I'll probably get blasted for this), but I think 17 weeks is a tad harsh, especially considering Danny Williams only got one more for deliberately king hitting an opposition player when he had his back turned.

If it was anyone but Hoppa, the suspension would have been far, far less.

I know he is an idiot and brings it onto himself, but I do feel sorry for him in a weird kind of way. He had the talent - just not the brains.

Agree with these sentiments. Although I dont think it is too harsh, the two incidents are not in the same league. Williams got off lightly if you compare the two.

OH Come off it.


Hoppoate Derserve more and so did Willams. Willams Record was Great compare to Hoppa and Hoppa got one week less than Willams.
Hoppa mind you got 12 weeks for bottom pocking where Danny got 6 weeks for hes highest offence(need to check willams longest suspenion)

I belive the NRL has gone Soft on this and they want Kids to play this sport.


Hoppa should on been suspened for 26 weeks after hes record.



This is a big cop out for Willams.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

bullsh*t! A) O'Neill's back wasn't turned, watch the video, and B), Galloway wasn't watching either... no difference at all, except that an elbow/forearm can cause more damage. Fair decision by all IMO

A king hit and a shoulder charge that went wrong are in different leagues mate.

If the Hoppa case is a fair decision, then Williams got off extremely lightly.

 

[steaming stormer]

A shame to see his career end like this. He really was a very good player when he wasn't acting like a dope.

I agree.

I might be the only one (and I'll probably get blasted for this), but I think 17 weeks is a tad harsh, especially considering Danny Williams only got one more for deliberately king hitting an opposition player when he had his back turned.

If it was anyone but Hoppa, the suspension would have been far, far less.

I know he is an idiot and brings it onto himself, but I do feel sorry for him in a weird kind of way. He had the talent - just not the brains.

Agree with these sentiments. Although I dont think it is too harsh, the two incidents are not in the same league. Williams got off lightly if you compare the two.

bullsh*t! A) O'Neill's back wasn't turned, watch the video, and B), Galloway wasn't watching either... no difference at all, except that an elbow/forearm can cause more damage. Fair decision by all IMO

If you think there was no difference between the two incidents, well.......Im stumped as to how to explain it to you. Probably statr with the differences between boxing and rugby league.

Sorry, let me clarify that the no difference part I was referring to was the argument that O'Neills head was turned. I would argue that both Gallaway and O'Neill were side on, and if anything O'Neill would have had more chance to see it coming than Galloway purely due to the speed. Anyway, I am not trying to defend Danny here, I am just saying that in relation between the two incidents, I think the Hopoate verdict was about spot on

 

[CliffyIsGod]

17 or 227, he was going to get sacked anyway.

And no one can say this was worse that a king hit to the head! If you think that, then you should give up now.

 

[Belly in Brisvegas]

* He got 17 weeks
* Manly brushed him
* He retired

Problem solved.

 

[steaming stormer]

bullsh*t! A) O'Neill's back wasn't turned, watch the video, and B), Galloway wasn't watching either... no difference at all, except that an elbow/forearm can cause more damage. Fair decision by all IMO

A king hit and a shoulder charge that went wrong are in different leagues mate.

If the Hoppa case is a fair decision, then Williams got off extremely lightly.

I agree, but I don't see Hopoates case as a shoulder charge gone wrong. You could argue that if the player had the ball, but it was late, and was never going to be a shoulder charge from before he left the ground.

Besides, if we want to compare cases, the best case to compare is that of Clint Newton. He got 12 weeks, and was his first offence. Considering how bad Hopoates record at the judiciary was, I think to only get 5 extra is pretty good. I thought it would have been a couple more due to previous cases.

 

[Jimbo]

I might be the only one (and I'll probably get blasted for this), but I think 17 weeks is a tad harsh, especially considering Danny Williams only got one more for deliberately king hitting an opposition player when he had his back turned.

If it was anyone but Hoppa, the suspension would have been far, far less.

That's true. And do you know why?

This latest suspension takes his career total to FORTY FIVE WEEKS.

That's right, nearly two whole seasons.

This low merkin should never have been allowed to play on after his anal rapings.

He won't be missed.

 

[Hurriflatch]

I think he deserved more he should've gotten at least 20 weeks + Contract torn up
Just 1 point to clarify does his termination from Manly take effect now or at the end of the year because technically the 17 week suspension ends in round 21 which 5 rounds + finals from the end of the season.

also he has done the same movge before watch the Eels v Manly game from 2004 at Parra, he hit Justin Tsoulos with the same thing only he hit Tsoulos shoulder not head but it was still with enough force to dislocate Justin's shoulder.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

I agree, but I don't see Hopoates case as a shoulder charge gone wrong. You could argue that if the player had the ball, but it was late, and was never going to be a shoulder charge from before he left the ground.

Besides, if we want to compare cases, the best case to compare is that of Clint Newton. He got 12 weeks, and was his first offence. Considering how bad Hopoates record at the judiciary was, I think to only get 5 extra is pretty good. I thought it would have been a couple more due to previous cases.

I saw it as a shoulder charge gone horribly wrong. In fact I think most shoulder charges could easily go wrong. It doesn't take much.

I understand though that this one looks very bad on camera, especially with him racing so far out of the line and leaving the ground etc. etc.

But I still don't think he intentionally meant to knock the poor blokes head off. That is very hard to prove. It was careless. It was reckless, but I dont think it was deliberate.

I don't think I could imagine anyone (unless it's Danny Williams) intentionally going out on the field to knock someone out with a forearm like that.

 

[Raider Ultra]

What made it look so bad was he sprinted from the other side of the field to make it. Plus at the point of contact he was at least 1m off the ground. Too me whether it was deliberate or not doesnt really matter, the result is the same. Soccer has removed the word 'deliberate' from the laws for that very reason.

 

[Harold Bishop]

I think he deserved more he should've gotten at least 20 weeks + Contract torn up
Just 1 point to clarify does his termination from Manly take effect now or at the end of the year because technically the 17 week suspension ends in round 21 which 5 rounds + finals from the end of the season.

also he has done the same movge before watch the Eels v Manly game from 2004 at Parra, he hit Justin Tsoulos with the same thing only he hit Tsoulos shoulder not head but it was still with enough force to dislocate Justin's shoulder.

That was a good tackle, its unfortunate that justin was hurt, but there has to be something done before another accident happens.
Do you think the NRL should ban shoulder charges?

 

[simon says]

I agree Ross,but geee it looked bad,and with his record Im not surpised at all.

 

[Bomber]

It's virtually a life sentence

No club wants to touch him

Justice is done in the end

 

[chemicalbrother]

I agree, but I don't see Hopoates case as a shoulder charge gone wrong. You could argue that if the player had the ball, but it was late, and was never going to be a shoulder charge from before he left the ground.

Besides, if we want to compare cases, the best case to compare is that of Clint Newton. He got 12 weeks, and was his first offence. Considering how bad Hopoates record at the judiciary was, I think to only get 5 extra is pretty good. I thought it would have been a couple more due to previous cases.

I saw it as a shoulder charge gone horribly wrong. In fact I think most shoulder charges could easily go wrong. It doesn't take much.

I understand though that this one looks very bad on camera, especially with him racing so far out of the line and leaving the ground etc. etc.

But I still don't think he intentionally meant to knock the poor blokes head off. That is very hard to prove. It was careless. It was reckless, but I dont think it was deliberate.

I don't think I could imagine anyone (unless it's Danny Williams) intentionally going out on the field to knock someone out with a forearm like that.

Oh please.


A shoulder charge gone wrong. ROFL PMSL etc. A shoulder change is when there is two feet on the ground (a la Sonny Bill Willams). That's the difference. Hoppoate aimed at the head. Fact. The NRL has very stringent practises in the game to protect the head, and hoppa broke every rule just like Willams.

Hoppoate took the guys head off, so to speak. and he should of got more.

 

[Davester]

Hopoate :arrow: Roosters

hahaha.

Nah, London Broncos ;-)

 

[Hurriflatch]

I think he deserved more he should've gotten at least 20 weeks + Contract torn up
Just 1 point to clarify does his termination from Manly take effect now or at the end of the year because technically the 17 week suspension ends in round 21 which 5 rounds + finals from the end of the season.

also he has done the same movge before watch the Eels v Manly game from 2004 at Parra, he hit Justin Tsoulos with the same thing only he hit Tsoulos shoulder not head but it was still with enough force to dislocate Justin's shoulder.

That was a good tackle, its unfortunate that justin was hurt, but there has to be something done before another accident happens.
Do you think the NRL should ban shoulder charges?

Yes, I can see how people could view it as a good tackle but even then you saw on Sunday what happens if timing is a little off.

 

[Weasels Ripped My Flesh]

Hopoate :arrow: Roosters

hahaha.

Nah, London Broncos ;-)

I was just thinking that

 

[Hurriflatch]

I don't think I could imagine anyone (unless it's Danny Williams) intentionally going out on the field to knock someone out with a forearm like that.

:roll:

What next will you be saying he accidently shoved his finger up peoples backsides?