I cant believe this!

[legend]

<table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=3 width=354 border=0> <tbody> <tr> <td> <span>Seriously, are the Bulldogs rubbing evryone's noses in the salary cap scandal? They have not released one player and nor do they intend to. I know i'm not the smartest bloke but I can't do the math on this one. If a club was over the cap by 1.5 million, how can they afford to keep their same side and sign Andrew Ryan at the same time? It defies logic. How will they be under the cap unless the players take massive paycuts and we're talking $60,000 per player across the whole squad of 25.</span> <span></span> <span>Bulldogs on verge of major re-signings</span>
<span>11 April 2003</span>
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</td></tr> <tr> <td class=newstext width=348><span>The Bulldogs are set to close the book on the most dramatic chapter in the National Rugby League club's 66-year history with the retention of star backs Nigel Vagana and Brent Sherwin.
Bulldogs boss Steve Mortimer revealed the club was in the advanced stages of talks with Vagana and Sherwin to secure their services at Canterbury for the rest of their careers.
Vagana, the premiership's Centre of the Year and leading try scorer in 2002, and Sherwin, last season's Dally M medal runner-up, as well as Willie Talau, Luke Patten and Travis Norton were all off contract at the end of this season.
But Mortimer said rival club's could forget about securing any of them because the Bulldogs had no plan to let the classy quintet off its leash.
"We're committed to keeping all of those guys," Mortimer said.
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</td></tr> <tr> <td class=newsquote>We're committed to keeping all of those guys.</td></tr> <tr> <td align=right>

</td></tr> <tr> <td class=newsquotefrom>Steve Mortimer</td></tr></tbody></table><span>"We've started negotiations with Nigel, Shifty (Sherwin) and Luke Patten and we'll get to Willie and Travis Norton very soon.
"I'd like to think we'll reach an agreement with all of them before (the) June 30 (anti-tampering) deadline.
"It's a priority for us."
The promising news would be welcome relief to the Bulldogs faithful after the club's devastating expulsion from last year's finals series for salary-cap cheating.
The Bulldogs were forced to apply an across-the-board eight per cent pay cut to keep their record-breaking class of 2002 in tact and Vagana and Co. were likely to be asked to accept less money than they could receive elsewhere in order to stay with the current premiership favourites. </span>
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<span>"Money is important, but they want to stay at the Bulldogs because of what we, as a club, can offer them outside of football," Mortimer said.
"We are looking at ways with tax etc. at making sure they can stay with us.
"I'm very hopeful they will."
The retention of Vagana, Sherwin, Patten, Talau and Norton whose birthday is on Saturday - all 27 or under - would secure coach Steve Folkes' entire 2002 playing roster for next year and beyond in what would be a massive boost to morale at the "family" club.
"We're looking at three or four year deals," Mortimer said.
The Bulldogs chief executive said no Bulldogs apart from the five off contract this season had plans to leave or retire.</span>
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[Cronulla_Mania]

Mate,

When i look at the dogs side, one thing stands out: We don't have a standout player. I dont think any of our players would be in the top 15-20 in the NRL. Honestly, i think about 4 teams have a better team on paper than us

But as for breaking the cap, i think we should wait and see before we pass judgement. I dont think we will keep all those guys. Turvey, whilst being a passionate man, is far from intelligent and most things that he says i take with a grain of salt. Lets wait and see

Cheers,
Moffo

 

[legend]

Moffo, regardless of Turvey's intelligence or lack thereof, he would be best served staying quiet as these sorts of statements do nothing but raise more questiosn about the Bulldogs accounting practices.

I never said they were cheating all along but unless the players take massive pay cuts, they leave me little choice other to brand them cheats.

 

[El Duque]

Providing Cheaterbury make the 8 they should have no hope of re-signing players as the bonus is supposed to come out of next year.

The NRL's punishment of this disgraceful mob of cheats was pathetic.

These cheating f**ks should've been punted from the comp.

 

[imported_Reservoir Dog]

The NRL's punishment of this disgraceful mob of cheats was pathetic.

These cheating f**ks should've been punted from the comp.
blah...blah...blah...You sound like a f**king broken record! Same shit every f**kin day!

 

[El Duque]

blah...blah...blah...You sound like a f**king broken record! Same shit every f**kin day!

Really, dickhead?

Find a post from every day of the last month, then copy and paste it in this thread.

No lame arse excuses will be accepted if not done!

 

[legend]

Res, give me your opinion on this latest development mate. When all this first surfaced I reserved judgement but this latest story made stop and think if Turvey is being fair dinkum.

I'm not trying to lay the boot into the Dogs but if it were any other club in the same situation, you'd be entitled to ask more than a few questions.

Let me know what you think.

 

[imported_Reservoir Dog]

No lame arse excuses will be accepted if not done!
Screw you arsehole! Who died and made you the king of the forum? I couldn't give two wet f**ks wheather you accept shit or not.
My point is everytime there is a Bulldogs thread or post, all you do is whine your f**king arse off at how there punishment was not enough, and how they should have been kicked out of the comp, and how this and that. Same f**king crap every f**kin time. It's boring the shit out of me...and I bet I aint the only one!
Guess what? Get over it dickhead! It's done. The punishment was handed out.And the NRL couldn't give two quarts of camel piss as to what you think should of happened or what should happen from here on.
You're quickly becoming the forum drama queen and predictability king. Your posts of late make me wanna piss all over the screen.
And people wonder why Bulldog fans here no longer engage is these kind of posts. It's because it's only a short matter of time before YOU come in and cuss your filthy mouth off.
Dickhead!

 

[imported_Reservoir Dog]

legend, see my last post to the answer to your first sentence/question in post 7.
As much as I respect you mate, I'm not wasting my time when ElDuque is gauranteed to come barging in with his foul mouth and useless garbage.
It's not worth my time.
How on earth Moffo still puts up with it all is beyond me. I take my hat off to him Because I'm not engaging in these kind of posts from now on. With Raging Bulldog gone (it seems) and Oneye not knowing if he's coming or going, it looks like Moffo will have to edure all the bullshit. Good luck to him.

 

[El Duque]

What else could I expect from a halfwit f**king moron.

Couldn't find onelousypost.

 

[El Duque]

How on earth Moffo still puts up with it all is beyond me. I take my hat off to him Because I'm not engaging in these kind of posts from now on. With Raging Bulldog gone (it seems) and Oneye not knowing if he's coming or going, it looks like Moffo will have to edure all the bullshit. Good luck to him.

Would you like a tissue?

 

[Vertigo]

ResDog,
Don't pull the plug mate.
I've always enjoyed reading your contributions to these boards. It's, of course, up to you whether you elect to engage in Bulldogs related threads or not, but your team's supporters seem to be droping off these boards in droves of late. You wouldn't leave a team mate on his own at the ground. Right?
El Duque is entitled to his comments as much as the next person. He's a passionate supporter who speaks his mind, and displays strong views towards an eray of topics. This can never be a bad things. Especially on a forum board.I think his demeanor, at times, may come across the wrong way he intends.
Don't be so judgemental over a screen. It's never an accurate indication.
Cheers mate V.

 

[imported_Outlaw]

Don't be so judgemental over a screen. It's never an accurate indication.
You're on level headed bloke Vertigo
Res Dog, chill out mate. El Duque is El Duque. Take the good with the bad.
While I'm in this room though, I agree...they should have been booted out

 

[El Duque]

I just don't think he gets how fans of other clubs who lost a multitude of players in keeeping to the cap feel when they see a team that rorted it beyond comprehension retain and sign more players.

Why wouldn't that piss people off to the max?

 

[legend]

The problem I have with the article is it portrays Mortimer as defiant and that's what pisses me off. It's like he is saying, Up yours, we're going to sign whoever we want regardless of our past indiscretions.

But Mortimer said rival club's could forget about securing any of them because the Bulldogs had no plan to let the classy quintet off its leash.
"We're committed to keeping all of those guys," Mortimer said.
It may be the author who did this, but it pissed me off when I read it.

 

[Willow]

Yeah, it could be just the article's writer but the Bulldogs have been taking the high ground before now.
In a way, I cant blame them... their supporters almost demand some sort of fight back and thats because they were feeling gutted last year.
Doesnt change anything though, Canterbury's crime is clear for all to see.

RD,
El Duque is El Duque. Its up to the recipient how they react. Personally, I just cant takeit all that seriously and methinks, El isnt taking it that seriously either. If you keep that in mind, things always fall into place.

Butwhen he starts calling your favourite player 'a poor widdle sook' like he did in Blacklock thread, thats when you have to start worrying. I'm still reeling from that.

 

[imported_Reservoir Dog]

Vertigo &amp; Willow.
Points taken and thanks.
ElDuque

 

[Willow]

np

 

[imported_weasel]

I can understand why El would be pissed off about this. Parramatta have been screwed over the most by the salary cap in the past few seasons. They have lost perhaps half of their great 2001 squad, which may I add was a team that was assembled within the cap in the first place. The Bulldogs team is only so good now because of cap rorting, so seeing them hang on to players they never would have had on the roster if they hadn't cheated is rather frustrating. That they were able to sign Andrew Ryan on top of this is even more of an insult to the Eels.

 

[imported_Lord Ted.]

I said at the time that the dogs should be banned from the comp for 3-5 years,
they should also be relocated to Perth.
I think people thought I was just joking.
I wasn't.
I have never praised the NRL's handling of the situation.
I believe it stinks.
Proven by the Dogs inability to put their hand up and make an attempt to get to the cap.
I have believed that the cap was to low (another issue,I know) and would have been a proponent of lifting the cap,but if it is done now it only reinforces the Dogs cheating.
Doesn't sound like to flash an idea to me.
As I said in the other thread,Doggies fans whinging about the ref has a really hollow ring to it.
Dogs for Perth.
And yes,if you are thinking that I see that as fitting punishment for their involvement in sewer league,you are absolutely spot on.
Karma please.