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.I want Wayne Bennett, reveals Nathan Tinkler

Bicey_18

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Apparently Bennett could earn upto 4.2 million a season

1.2 million to sign on
1 million dollar bonus if they make the finals
500k for each semi-final they win
A further million dollars should they win the competition.
 

Spot On

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Apparently Bennett could earn upto 4.2 million a season

1.2 million to sign on
1 million dollar bonus if they make the finals
500k for each semi-final they win
A further million dollars should they win the competition.

Does he get anything if he can snap our injury hoodoo???
 

Serc

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Tinkler plays family card in Bennett deal

  • James Hooper
  • April 10, 2011 12:00AM
THE red carpet being rolled out to lure Wayne Bennett to Newcastle has taken a family twist, with mining magnate Nathan Tinkler offering the supercoach's son-in-law, Ben Ikin, a job.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that billionaire Tinkler met with Ikin last week to toss in the latest sweetener on the deal, telling the former Brisbane Broncos player he could help manage his ever-increasing property portfolio.
So, on top of a reported $4 million contract over two years and unconditional use of his private jet, Tinkler is now playing a family trump card to sign Bennett.
In South Sydney's bunker at Redfern, co-owner Russell Crowe has supposedly thrown up the keys to his $14 million penthouse at Woolloomooloo.
The Tinkler Group's property portfolio offer to Ikin is the latest high-rolling move in the battle being staged between Newcastle and Souths for Bennett's signature.
As of last night, everyone was holding their cards as close as possible, with any flinch seen as a potential opportunity for Bennett to have a change of heart and renege on any agreement.
Knights coach Rick Stone spoke to Tinkler yesterday and reckoned even the mining kingpin was in the dark.
"I had a chat with Tinkler before, and he said even he doesn't know, so we're all just waiting to see," Stone said.
The same game was being played out of the South Sydney camp, with chief executive Shane Richardson refusing to budge about any impending announcement.
"I'm not making any comment," Richardson said.
"Hopefully, we'll have a better idea next week of the direction our club's heading."
Everyone knows that in Bennett's world, family comes first, second and third. So the Tinkler strategy of offering son-in-law Ikin a job and tossing in his plane to travel between Newcastle and Brisbane is seen as smart politics.
Retired Queensland Origin centre Ikin is married to Bennett's daughter Beth and enjoys close ties with the seven-time premiership winner.
When The Sunday Telegraph contacted Ikin to ask about the Tinkler approach yesterday, he would respond only to text messages.
"You guys are good. It won't be about the money but rather the challenge," Ikin wrote.
The jury is still out on whether Crowe's reported use of his $14 million Woolloomooloo apartment is quite so appealing to a man of Bennett's country tastes.
As one well-connected rugby league identity pointed out yesterday: "Can you really picture Wayne Bennett sipping a latte down at the Woolloomooloo wharf with the rest of those eastern suburbs wankers?"
The key men doing the negotiating, and their history with Bennett, paint a fascinating picture.
At the Knights, Tinkler and his group chief executive Ken Edwards are the key players, while at South Sydney, Crowe and Richardson are the men pulling the strings.
One of the key points of initial contact between Bennett and both clubs has been Shane Edwards - a former Brisbane Broncos chief executive and one of Bennett's closest friends.
Edwards is the brother of Tinkler Group CEO Ken Edwards and best mate of Rabbitohs CEO Richardson - a deliciously ironic link.
As for whether Bennett could surprise everyone by playing a completely different hand to the two clubs currently in front of him - well, that seemed unlikely last night. But, as the Roosters can attest, no deal with Wayne Bennett is a done deal until you have his signature on a contract.
Roosters chairman Nick Politis still hasn't forgotten how Bennett backflipped out of an impending move to Bondi in September, 2006 when the deal became public.
Bennett's backflip on that occasion is a move that every club in the NRL remembers, and it explains why Newcastle and Souths are jumping at shadows ahead of Bennett's final call this week.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-in-bennett-deal/story-e6frexnr-1226036576509
 

Serc

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Rabbits or Knights? Bennett can't lose
Phil Gould
April 10, 2011

Wayne Bennett has a proven track record when it comes to making big decisions.
Moving from Brisbane to Canberra back in 1987 to take on a joint coaching position with Don Furner snr gave his coaching talents wider acclaim. Heading back to Brisbane in 1988 to help set up the powerful Brisbane Broncos franchise was a career-maker. No matter what he achieves outside of Brisbane he will always be remembered as the Broncos coach.
The selection and recruitment of hopefuls and developing them into international-class footballers shows a man with an acute eye for talent and the perseverance to help young men achieve their ambitions. Over the years he has shown a preparedness to make a call on whether to retain or release an ageing star or move a player on to the English Super League before bringing him back to the NRL. His greatest achievements with some players - the advice and mentoring he gave them - might well have gone unnoticed. Sometimes this is the most rewarding thing about being a coach. You help make a difference to people's lives.
His timing in and out of Origin football and his coaching of the Queensland teams has been impeccable. He left the Broncos at the right time. He chose the right club to join when he selected St George Illawarra as his next challenge.
I believe his decision to leave the Dragons is also the decision of a wise and experienced man.
However, I get the distinct feeling that choosing his next team is causing this Master Mentor significant consternation. Not that I suspect he's made a wrong decision; nor do I believe he can make a wrong decision whichever way he goes from here. The opportunities available to him look to be gilt-edged investments for his time and talents.
It's just I've never really seen him this undecided about making a call. From what I hear he has been genuinely wavering in his thought processes. It's obviously a tough one for him. Should he coach the Rabbitohs or the Knights?
Firstly, let's deal with his decision to leave the Dragons. I think it's a good move.
Bennett came south on a mission. After 21 years at the Broncos he decided he and they needed a change. He chose a strong brand in the Dragons at a time when they had been under-achieving. He came, he saw, he conquered.
Speaking to him over lunch a fortnight before last year's grand final I asked him how long he would keep coaching. His reply was interesting. To paraphrase him: "The thing that has made the Dragons so enjoyable has been the fact we are a winning team. The players are great and they are in the right stages of their careers to have this kind of impact. The winning makes the job so much easier."
He then continued with the admission: "I don't know how I would go coaching a struggling team that wasn't winning. I don't know if I could start again from scratch and go through tough years at the bottom of the ladder trying to turn things around."
I knew exactly what he was saying.
For this reason I knew he probably wouldn't be interested in being the foundation coach for, say, a second Brisbane franchise in years to come. He built one club from scratch. I don't think he will try to build another. For similar reasons, I think the Dragons face some serious challenges in the coming years as an ageing player roster and the ill-effects of a salary cap that punishes success really start to take a hold. He has won them a premiership. He doesn't want to be around for the downside.
I really thought he would go back to Brisbane. I think most assumed this was on the cards. But now that he has announced he won't be returning , I can see the sense in this decision. I think the Broncos would have been too easy. Too comfortable. Too familiar. He knows he still needs a challenge. A new club and the chance to become the first coach to win a premiership at three clubs will ensure his competitive juices flow. Yep, smart decision to knock back the Broncos.
So back to the Rabbits or the Knights. Both great rugby league clubs. I think the tradition and history of the Rabbits interests Bennett; albeit their greatest days came long before any of their current players were even born. To win a premiership with South Sydney would truly be a great accomplishment. I admire what Russell Crowe has done for the image and stability of this club. I think Crowe needs a man like Bennett if he hopes to realise his dreams.
Souths have a roster ready to go; although a few tweaks here and there wouldn't go astray. Their football and their personality as a team needs an overhaul. They are under-achieving. Bennett can change that.
Newcastle are a wonderful opportunity, though I think their current coach is doing a great job. Like the Broncos, if they miss out on Bennett's signature they should stick with the man they have. But I guess any club would move heaven and earth to have Bennett on the books.
In all the years I've been involved in rugby league I can honestly say I've never met a person from Newcastle I didn't like. I think the vast junior nursery and local content would interest Bennett. A chance to establish something really special that sustains the club well into the future is something Bennett could capitalise upon. I also think Bennett warms to self-achievers such as new boss Nathan Tinkler. He has always gravitated to people like Paul ''Porky'' Morgan, John Singleton and the late Ken Talbot, to name a few. He admires their success and the fact these men use their good fortune to help others.
With Tinkler's passion and vision for Newcastle, as a football club and as a city, Bennett will find someone to whom he can really relate. It looks like a winning partnership.
I think the reports of Bennett being offered $2 million a season by Tinkler are way off the mark and could even stand in the way of Newcastle securing his signature. Bennett is a funny bloke - if he thought for a moment people believed he was getting paid that much, it would be enough to make him knock back the Knights just to prove it's not all about the money.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see which way he jumps. I believe a decision is imminent. He has stewed over this long enough.
Souths or Newcastle winning a premiership in the next three years would be a further boost to our game. They are strong brands and recognised the world over. Having Bennett as the coach would bring them a step closer to this dream.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...knights-bennett-cant-lose-20110409-1d8gy.html

And finally we have an article from JD's favourite RL man! Don't jizz your pants too hard!!!
 

Sacrolishes

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the last part of that article about the money being shown around in papers and tv shows is what has been worrying me too! i really hope it wont be the kiler because i really really want to rub it into south when?if we get him :p
 

Nuffy

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According to Weidler on 9 news:

Rick Stone has addressed the players and told them he is 90% certain they will be coached by Bennett next year.

I reckon this is subterfuge by wielder and crowe. Wielder has always stroked Crowe and souths were possible.

Everyone knows that Bennett will back out of a deal if he thinks that people are talking out of turn, like he did with the rorters.

So at a very delicate stage in the proceedings, when everyone seems to want to keep their mouths shut, a reporter close to souths blabs that the knights coach is telling people it's a done deal.

Seems very convenient.
 

Spot On

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I reckon this is subterfuge by wielder and crowe. Wielder has always stroked Crowe and souths were possible.

Everyone knows that Bennett will back out of a deal if he thinks that people are talking out of turn, like he did with the rorters.

So at a very delicate stage in the proceedings, when everyone seems to want to keep their mouths shut, a reporter close to souths blabs that the knights coach is telling people it's a done deal.

Seems very convenient.

Just on that point - who was it that confirmed that the leaking of the job at the Roosters was the reason why Bennett pulled out??? Anyone know for sure???
 

Alex28

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Sh*t journalism from a sh*t journalist. Last ditch ploy by Souths to turn Bennett against Newcastle.

He's a smarter man than they give him credit for.
 

Johns Magic

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Bennett at today's post-match press conference said he had made a decision, he just didn't want to reveal it yet.
 

Rolla

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For f**k sake Wayne if you have made a decision get on with it....

Sure knows how to drag something out for a bloke that doesnt care for the media
 

Bicey_18

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Potentially the BIGGEST signing in the club's history if we pull this off......

Out of all the factors that are being thrown out there e.g Money, Challenges...I think the biggest one would be comfort. I think living in Sydney, Wayne would definitely be out of his comfort zone. I just cant see him in Sydney.

Living in Newcastle, a much more laidback lifestyle, less media attention.. add to that direct flights to see his family whenever he wanted... plus the money. I think Wayne would be at home here...

And people are saying, " If he wants a challenge, he will go to Sths"

I disagree. Newcastle dont exactly have the greatest roster, no offence to the players. We dont have guys like Greg Inglis or a Sam Burgess or an Issac Luke. We have a team who play for each other and compete for the full 80. But also we have heart. And I think Wayne sees that...

"The toughest team we have come across this year" - Bennett saying after the Dragons beat us last week.. Considering their only loss was against the Sharks.

The challenge for Wayne would be to take this group to the next level and to get the absolute best out of each player like a Mark Taufua or a James McManus.. the list goes on really... THERE'S a Challenge!!!!

"At least Newcastle have won 2 premierships lately where as Souths havent which is why Souths would be a greater challenge " is another thing I have been hearing

True. But we are now in the after Johns era. A side until 2-3 years ago couldnt catch a cold without Johns and whose future appeared bleak without him.... but we eventually turned into a competitive outfit and showed we could win without him. Question is, can Bennett take us to the next level.... thats a challenge in itself imo.
 
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I think Darius Boyd would give us an edge we have not seen before at the back. He is brilliant at reading the game when it matters most. That intercept today was genius. He turned the game completely as the Doggies were finding their feet.
 

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What looks better on the back page of The Daily Telegraph?

'Wayne Bennett Takes Knights To Next Level' or 'Wayne Bennett Breaks Souths 40 Year Premiership Drought'

What will carry more respect and prestige, turning a miserable rag tag bunch of no hopers who have made the Top 8 once in the past 20 years with one of the games richest histories and leading them to glory or giving Newcastle a third premiership in 14 years?

What is a more impressive transformation, turning Chris 'Turnstile' Sandow into a top grade halfback or doing the same with Beau Henry?

These are the questions that will motivate Wayne Bennett imo, he's proved he can win premierships, if he has anything left to prove is that he is the greatest of all time.

There are very similar aspects to both Souths and St. George. A roster brimming with talent, players with great potential who just need to edge out some flaws and weak links (Sandow/Soward's defence for example), a history of underachievement (or as some liked to call the Dragons, 'chokers'), a premiership drought and a large fan base. There is the recipe for a sh*tload of hype, which although he 'shys away from the spotlight' Wayne Bennett generates and I think loves to generate.

You could also turn that last paragraph back around to say if he wanted a true challenge he'd come to foreign territory in Newcastle, but Bennett has a winning formula. The Dragons play to a template, they win premierships. Wayne Bennett coaches to a formula, he wins premierships.
 

Bicey_18

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What looks better on the back page of The Daily Telegraph?

'Wayne Bennett Takes Knights To Next Level' or 'Wayne Bennett Breaks Souths 40 Year Premiership Drought'

What will carry more respect and prestige, turning a miserable rag tag bunch of no hopers who have made the Top 8 once in the past 20 years with one of the games richest histories and leading them to glory or giving Newcastle a third premiership in 14 years?

What is a more impressive transformation, turning Chris 'Turnstile' Sandow into a top grade halfback or doing the same with Beau Henry?

These are the questions that will motivate Wayne Bennett imo, he's proved he can win premierships, if he has anything left to prove is that he is the greatest of all time.

There are very similar aspects to both Souths and St. George. A roster brimming with talent, players with great potential who just need to edge out some flaws and weak links (Sandow/Soward's defence for example), a history of underachievement (or as some liked to call the Dragons, 'chokers'), a premiership drought and a large fan base. There is the recipe for a sh*tload of hype, which although he 'shys away from the spotlight' Wayne Bennett generates and I think loves to generate.

You could also turn that last paragraph back around to say if he wanted a true challenge he'd come to foreign territory in Newcastle, but Bennett has a winning formula. The Dragons play to a template, they win premierships. Wayne Bennett coaches to a formula, he wins premierships.

Do you think Wayne Bennett cares what looks good on the back of the Telegraph???
 

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