If I was coach.

[Bests Golden Boots]

Read the first post from this blokes thread and you'll see what I mean.

You know, I read that post four times, then again a couple of times later, and only just now saw the "and an" bit, I really gotta get my eyes tested

 

[Bests Golden Boots]

He was referring to 2 separate people - our best performing back (arguable, but reference to Aitken) and a NSW/Aus Rep (Friz).

Finally saw that, brain not work well, getting old sucks.

 

[Frank Facer]

Moving our best performing back and an Australian and NSW Rep from his best position.

Genius decision making.

I can only recall Aitken passing the ball to Nightingale once this whole year, including trials. Frizell very rarely passes the ball out either, so our right side has no flow in attack. I did say that Aitken has been playing very good football this year and it probably wouldn't be fair to drop him to the bench. But I also believe that it is unfair for a winger to play outside of Aitken, because he won't get any ball.

I believe that Frizell plays his best football in the middle, he runs straight and hard and is more suited there. At 103 kgs, he would be one of the smaller props in the game, but he has the toughness to play there. I recall him playing prop for us over 4 years ago. He actually did perform very impressively at the time, in a much weaker pack. Now, he would be surrounded by a much stronger pack and wouldn't have to carry us like he did then. He was a bit immature to play prop over 4 years ago. I believe that he would handle playing prop better now than then. I would experiment with it and see how it goes.

Frizell has played his best football for NSW at lock, which is the middle. He was one of NSW best when playing their 2 seasons ago, that would fill me with confidence that he would succeed at prop for us. Lock is closer to prop these days.

I think Latimore and Nightingale are our 2 weakest links in our 17 and would be replacing them, with Lomax and Host. Although Host has been named in our top 17 this week, with Sele number 18. I think my team could be our strongest 17 available.

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

Soward used to refer to himself in the 3rd person too. lol

Jimmy likes this post.
Jimmys happy today.
People like Jimmy when he’s happy..
I likes happy!
Jimmy likes Jimmy!
Jimmy also likes Mary when he’s winning.
Jimmys no coach.

 

[ouryears]

I can only recall Aitken passing the ball to Nightingale once this whole year, including trials. Frizell very rarely passes the ball out either, so our right side has no flow in attack. I did say that Aitken has been playing very good football this year and it probably wouldn't be fair to drop him to the bench. But I also believe that it is unfair for a winger to play outside of Aitken, because he won't get any ball.

I believe that Frizell plays his best football in the middle, he runs straight and hard and is more suited there. At 103 kgs, he would be one of the smaller props in the game, but he has the toughness to play there. I recall him playing prop for us over 4 years ago. He actually did perform very impressively at the time, in a much weaker pack. Now, he would be surrounded by a much stronger pack and wouldn't have to carry us like he did then. He was a bit immature to play prop over 4 years ago. I believe that he would handle playing prop better now than then. I would experiment with it and see how it goes.

Frizell has played his best football for NSW at lock, which is the middle. He was one of NSW best when playing their 2 seasons ago, that would fill me with confidence that he would succeed at prop for us. Lock is closer to prop these days.

I think Latimore and Nightingale are our 2 weakest links in our 17 and would be replacing them, with Lomax and Host. Although Host has been named in our top 17 this week, with Sele number 18. I think my team could be our strongest 17 available.

But the coaching team Frank, any chance we can move some of them out and around too?
Not all, but some, I reckon you could come up with the right choices there too mate.

If not ....gulp!

 

[redandwhite4evr]

I have been thinking tonight, what I would do, if I was our coach. I feel like I have had an epiphany and will share it with you all.

Everyone else is welcome to say what they would do if they were our coach on this thread too.

My team would be, if all players are available.

1 Dufty
2 Lomax
3 Mann
4 Lafai
5 McDonald
6 Widdop
7 Hunt
8 Vaughn
9 McInnes
10 Frizell
11 Simms
12 Host
13 DeBelin

14 Aitken
15 Graham
16 Ah Mau
17 Sele.

At the beginning of the season, I would have already had Mann and Lomax on our right side. I said at the start of the year that I would have had Lomax centre and Mann on the wing. I have decided to swap them around and let Lomax start his career from the wing and play Mann at right centre. I think Mann would provide more class at centre than Aitken, he would also be able to pass Lomax the ball. I am very happy with Aitken's form this year and it probably wouldn't be fair to drop him to the bench. I think Lomax would give us more speed on the wing and more agility, than Nightingale. I think he is our best young outside back prospect since Gasnier, and I have faith that he would succeed, if given the chance.

I would move Frizell to starting prop and move Graham to the bench. I believe that Frizell plays his best football in the middle. He is as tough as they come. He runs hard and tackles hard. He is also a forward leader. When he is in the middle he doesn't have to wait for the game to come to him. He has excelled playing in the lock (in the middle) for NSW and would excel playing there for us. I would move Graham to the bench. Myself and others have already felt that we need one more good prop. Doing this would effectively give us the best pair of interchange props in the game. We would not lose much if anything when we replace our starting pair of props. I think we would have the best set of props in the game with that quartet.

I would bring Host in to play second row. I will say that I am not totally convinced of Host yet, but I did see some potential last year. He debuted for us 2 seasons ago, he now should be ready to have a shot and with moving Frizell to prop, that would give him his chance. His stats in ISP have been impressive every week. He may even run better lines than Frizell?

With those changes, I am visualising our right hand side attack improving and flowing better. I am also visualising our middle becoming stronger and tougher.

Aitken would by my utility. He can play centre (Mann could be moved mid game to cover an injury to any other back) or come on and play in the backrow. I have always said that he is a forward playing centre.

Sele would replace DeBelin 10 minutes or so before halftime and play for the first 10 to 15 in the second half.

With that bench, we would probably have the best bench in the comp.

I don't expect Mary to make any of these changes in the foreseeable future, but that is what I would do. I reckon we could win the comp this year, with the above team.

 

[redandwhite4evr]

The Warriors have stumbled on the blueprint to beat St George

1 Play at pace- Our defensive line, particularly with Graham's rush, has improved but can still be laz.y
2 Our right side defense still throws up bad reads- the Sharks got us there a couple of times.
3 Target Dufty, Nightingale and Aitken who are all short, in the air.
4 Run at Dufty when near the goalline- he is a serial tackle miser.

 

[LINESPEED]

I hope Lomax is bought along the same way Field was. Play him in the reserves and maybe give him time off the bench to replace Flo.

Mc FMD would've made Reg Gasnier wait until he was 22 to get a decent run

 

[Draginzaaar]

I have been thinking tonight, what I would do, if I was our coach. I feel like I have had an epiphany and will share it with you all.

Everyone else is welcome to say what they would do if they were our coach on this thread too.

My team would be, if all players are available.

1 Dufty
2 Lomax
3 Mann
4 Lafai
5 McDonald
6 Widdop
7 Hunt
8 Vaughn
9 McInnes
10 Frizell
11 Simms
12 Host
13 DeBelin

14 Aitken
15 Graham
16 Ah Mau
17 Sele.

At the beginning of the season, I would have already had Mann and Lomax on our right side. I said at the start of the year that I would have had Lomax centre and Mann on the wing. I have decided to swap them around and let Lomax start his career from the wing and play Mann at right centre. I think Mann would provide more class at centre than Aitken, he would also be able to pass Lomax the ball. I am very happy with Aitken's form this year and it probably wouldn't be fair to drop him to the bench. I think Lomax would give us more speed on the wing and more agility, than Nightingale. I think he is our best young outside back prospect since Gasnier, and I have faith that he would succeed, if given the chance.

I would move Frizell to starting prop and move Graham to the bench. I believe that Frizell plays his best football in the middle. He is as tough as they come. He runs hard and tackles hard. He is also a forward leader. When he is in the middle he doesn't have to wait for the game to come to him. He has excelled playing lock (in the middle) for NSW and would excel playing there for us. I would move Graham to the bench. Myself and others have already felt that we need one more good prop. Doing this would effectively give us the best pair of interchange props in the game. We would not lose much if anything when we replace our starting pair of props. I think we would have the best set of props in the game with that quartet.

I would bring Host in to play second row. I will say that I am not totally convinced of Host yet, but I did see some potential last year. He debuted for us 2 seasons ago, he now should be ready to have a shot and with moving Frizell to prop, that would give him his chance. His stats in ISP have been impressive every week. He may even run better lines than Frizell?

With those changes, I am visualising our right hand side attack improving and flowing better. I am also visualising our middle becoming stronger and tougher.

Aitken would by my utility. He can play centre (Mann could be moved mid game to cover an injury to any other back) or come on and play in the backrow. I have always said that he is a forward playing centre.

Sele would replace DeBelin 10 minutes or so before halftime and play for the first 10 to 15 in the second half.

With that bench, we would probably have the best bench in the comp.

I don't expect Mary to make any of these changes in the foreseeable future, but that is what I would do. I reckon we could win the comp this year, with the above team.

Aitken, one of the form centres in the comp. Lets chuck him on the bench, where he might play 20 minutes?

 

[Frank Facer]

Aitken, one of the form centres in the comp. Lets chuck him on the bench, where he might play 20 minutes?

Yes true, but I would like us to have a potent right side attack that extends all the way to our winger. I only recall Aitken passing the ball to Nightingale once this whole season, including trials and that was a flick pass to Nightingale, when he was in a nothing situation. Right now, when the ball reaches either Frizell or Aitken, it doesn't go any further right.

 

[possm]

We need another prop to replace Latimore in the rotation. At this stage I would be grooming Kerr. He has size and can bend the line. He can begin his stint off the bench under instructions to run full pelt, hard and straight. He should also tackle with gusto until he can so so no more.

I'm afraid that I have some big changes to our backline. Lomax to right wing for now, Lafai to right centre, Mann to left centre and Aitken off the bench.

Macdonald needs good ball to do his magic and a fleet footed centre to draw attention away from hm. Mann has a deceptive step AND SPEED. He just needs to run straight and not creep towards the side line.

Lafai played right entre at the Dogs and would be able to put a strapping young winger away on the right. Lomax is great under the high ball and run quick and hard on kick returns. We need two tall wingers in our squad I predict that eventually Lomax will be either our long term right centre or fullback. Eventually, Aitken will be our first choice 12 with Frizell moving to his more favoured position at 11.

1. Dufty
2. Macdonald
3. Lafai
4. Mann - in case of injured back, Mann to replace and Aitken to centre.
5. Lomax
6. Widdop
7. Hunt
8. Vaughan
9. McInnes
10. Graham
11. Sims
12. Frizell
13. De Belin

14. Ah Mau
15. Kerr
16. Host
17. Aitken - for backrow, centre or wing

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

Considering Saints have made a pretty decent start to the season, I'd question why so many changes are necessary.

In my opinion, a burgeoning talent such as Lomax needs to bide his time because no one in the backline is playing poorly.

Mann should be in the starting line up from round one, but you cannot fault Lafai.

 

[Frank Facer]

Considering Saints have made a pretty decent start to the season, I'd question why so many changes are necessary.

In my opinion, a burgeoning talent such as Lomax needs to bide his time because no one in the backline is playing poorly.

Mann should be in the starting line up from round one, but you cannot fault Lafai.

As i said in my original post, I would have had Lomax and Mann in my side from round 1.

The reason I think we need to make changes is so that our right hand side can become more potent in attack, so that our attack can extend all the way to our right wing, so our right hand side can flow in attack, so that we can have a right winger who can score tries, like they are supposed to. I also believe that my team would be our best 17.

My reason for moving Frizell to prop, is because I believe he is better suited to the middle. I would have put him lock, but I wouldn't move DeBelin. Frizell runs straight and hard, like a prop. I believe with Frizell at prop and dropping Latimore out of our 17 would strengthen our middle the the entire game. Frizell also doesn't run into holes or pass the ball, so he is stifling our right hand side attack as well. I would be hoping that Host could improve our right hand side attack. by running into holes and by passing the ball to players outside of him, when it was on. It would be an experiment.

Myself and many others believe that Nightingale is too slow and ineffective now.

Aitken has been playing well, but has only passed the ball to Nightingale once this season and that was a flick pass to Nighty, in a nothing situation. I believe that Mann and Lomax combined would be better in attack than Aitken on his own, because that is how it is right now on our right hand side.

 

[Frank Facer]

If I was coach, when Lucky is fit again, I would be playing him prop in the ISP. He has the build more suited to prop than second row. We may have the prop we are looking for right under our noses. He could become the impact prop we are looking for and be Ah Mau's replacement next year (If Ah Mau goes to Newy, like the rumours are suggesting he will). He probably has a better chance of forcing his way into the 17 right now playing prop than second row. I would just tell him to concentrate on running hard and tackling hard and playing tough. He already does have good ball skills. Props are a valuable commodity these days, so Lucky may welcome the idea.

 

[gitano]

Frank. Please stop haha

 

[Old Timer]

If I was coach, when Lucky is fit again, I would be playing him prop in the ISP. He has the build more suited to prop than second row. We may have the prop we are looking for right under our noses. He could become the impact prop we are looking for and be Ah Mau's replacement next year (If Ah Mau goes to Newy, like the rumours are suggesting he will. He probably has a better chance of forcing his way into the 17 right now playing prop than second row. I would just tell him to concentrate on running hard and tackling hard and playing tough. He already does have good ball skills. Props are a valuable commodity these days, so Lucky may welcome the idea.

No hard edge and not nearly tough / robust enough.
I unfortunately believe he is well and truly in the Bryce Cartwright mould and will be remembered as an "oh what could have been"

 

[Gareth67]

Oh Frank Frizell isn't a prop , why on earth would you play the man out of his best position ? There's no doubting that's he's tough as teak , but as a bookend he would after a period of time be worn out as he simply isn't big enough for the front row .

 

[Frank Facer]

Frank. Please stop haha

I am only getting started. lol.

 

[Frank Facer]

Oh Frank Frizell isn't a prop , why on earth would you play the man out of his best position ? There's no doubting that's he's tough as teak , but as a bookend he would after a period of time be worn out as he simply isn't big enough for the front row .

Frizell actually played prop when Price was our coach. He was our best forward playing in a weak pack. Now he would be playing in a very good pack and wouldn't have to carry us. He would run hard, tackle hard and have a high work rate, he could also play big minutes for us in the middle. He wouldn't have to wait for the game to come to him. He would provide us with intensity in the middle. He would develop into one of the best props in the game. He has excelled in origin, when playing in lock, which is in the middle. He was probably NSW best forward when he played lock. He could basically play a similar role for us at prop, that he did for NSW in origin. I am convinced that Frizell should be in the middle.

 

[Saintsified]

I prefer you as the CEO.
However if you were the coach I'm 100% certain we would have at least 4 sack Frank Facer threads going.