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In what direction is the universe expanding?

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Happy new year to all alien life forms.

Where here, we have plenty of crops available to make out a circle.

If ET wants to talk to our leaders, if it wants to mind meld with our most populous species, then it needs to conference with our insect life.

Thank you for the astronomical pics GZ. They are breathtaking!
 

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Happy new year to all alien life forms.

Where here, we have plenty of crops available to make out a circle.

If ET wants to talk to our leaders, if it wants to mind meld with our most populous species, then it needs to conference with our insect life.

Thank you for the astronomical pics GZ. They are breathtaking!
Thanks Silver I hope the Tigers brings you some joy in 2025.
 

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I was hoping to get outside to see it tonight myself. Typically for Perth, as soon as there's something to see, we get the rarer sight of a cloudy night and can't see anything.
 

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I was going to ask @Everlovin' Antichrist or anyone else who is astronomical.

So Hubble said the whole show is expanding and the expansion is speeding up.

I was trying to work out where they said it started relative to our Sun?

Also, is the acceleration a constant or do different chunks of the universe go faster?

Also, If we accept the Big Bang, how could something come from nothing? Surely there was something at the start of the mess?

It just doesn’t make any sense to me that a couple of atoms or whatever just materialises from the void.

I know stranger things have happened like the signing of Packer for $850k, and I’m not putting up anything creationist, but I’m a tad uncomfortable with this explanation.

Any insights appreciated.

Thanks.
Outwards ;)
 

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@The Silverdale Phantom
Mate I've always been amazed about the universe (not galaxy) in that there is no start or finish imo. Well there is when your at the start line in a race because it is a fixed point and a moment in time and its all relative on earth isn't it?
But my question is, how can you say something happened in space when it has always been there and it never ends. If you had the ability to fire a lazer that would never hit anything nor lose its strength, then it would go on for eternity....it wouldn't do a big circle and come back and rejoin itself like when you travel around the world. There is no end....is there?
Played to the theme music of twilight zone :)
 

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@The Silverdale Phantom
Mate I've always been amazed about the universe (not galaxy) in that there is no start or finish imo. Well there is when your at the start line in a race because it is a fixed point and a moment in time and its all relative on earth isn't it?
But my question is, how can you say something happened in space when it has always been there and it never ends. If you had the ability to fire a lazer that would never hit anything nor lose its strength, then it would go on for eternity....it wouldn't do a big circle and come back and rejoin itself like when you travel around the world. There is no end....is there?
Played to the theme music of twilight zone :)
 

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The big bang theory is just that isn't it a theory?
To say that the big bang explains the origin of the universe that began as a small hot and dense point that rapidly expanded and stretched over 13 billion years or so still doesn't sit with me.
What was outside that small hot dense point, a brick wall, another universe. There is no start or end to it surely.
I can understand us giving the earth and anything that is tangible in the solar system or the galaxy for that matter an age as it can be measured either by carbon dating or light years etc but the void of space, I just can't see it.
The milky way, yes but space no?????
 

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The big bang theory is just that isn't it a theory?
To say that the big bang explains the origin of the universe that began as a small hot and dense point that rapidly expanded and stretched over 13 billion years or so still doesn't sit with me.
What was outside that small hot dense point, a brick wall, another universe. There is no start or end to it surely.
I can understand us giving the earth and anything that is tangible in the solar system or the galaxy for that matter an age as it can be measured either by carbon dating or light years etc but the void of space, I just can't see it.
The milky way, yes but space no?????

The Hubble telescope and the James web brought us closer to creation if you can call it that. Hopefully NASA new telescope the sphere can answer those questions that Ancient/Modern scientist have asked since the dawn of time.
 

Nutz

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The Hubble telescope and the James web brought us closer to creation if you can call it that. Hopefully NASA new telescope the sphere can answer those questions that Ancient/Modern scientist have asked since the dawn of time.
Do you have an opinion on that space never ends in any miniscule direction, therefore if it doesn't end, it doesn't start, so it can't be measured. That's all I'm saying.
We/I, am talking about space, not the solar system nor a galaxy but an endless number void of them.
You can measure a solar system and a galaxy but imo you can't say which way the universe is expanding unless it's relative to a galaxy, one to another.

Bloody Galvin, just when the Tigers were on the move.
 

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Do you have an opinion on that space never ends in any miniscule direction, therefore if it doesn't end, it doesn't start, so it can't be measured. That's all I'm saying.
We/I, am talking about space, not the solar system nor a galaxy but an endless number void of them.
You can measure a solar system and a galaxy but imo you can't say which way the universe is expanding unless it's relative to a galaxy, one to another.

Bloody Galvin, just when the Tigers were on the move.
yeah I believe that space is never ending, as for Galvin he was offered one of the best contracts in West Tigers history and basically Refused if I where a Tigers supporter I’ll be pissed off…
 

Nutz

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yeah I believe that space is never ending, as for Galvin he was offered one of the best contracts in West Tigers history and basically Refused if I where a Tigers supporter I’ll be pissed off…
Maybe that's the answer to the thread,
Wests Tigers woes never end, it's a universal conundrum
 

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