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Incorporating Tri Natons and World Cup

The Engineers Room

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I think that the best way to run the world cup is to have Australia, New Zealand and Great Britain play each other once. Before this starts all the other nations play a tournament which becomes a world cup qualifier. The qualifiers would have the teams ranked into three groups with the winner of the groups to progress. The winners would then play in a round robin format with the games to be played as curtain raisers to the Aust/NZ/GB games.

The top ranked side out of Australia, NZ and GB would progress to the final with the 2nd ranked side to play the best ranked emerging nation for the right to play in the final.

This guarantees that at least one of the big three will be in the final, the lower ranked sides are given a tournament that means something, it is possible for anyone to win the world cup.

As a sideline to the final, the other 4 nations could play off for positions as the curtain raiser.
 

Perth Tiger

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This guarantees that at least one of the big three will be in the final, the lower ranked sides are given a tournament that means something, it is possible for anyone to win the world cup.

No matter what format you held it in at least one of the big three will be in the final
 

brendothejet

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nup. doesn't work.

The way to run the world cup is simply this. Regularly.

If the world cup came around every 4 years then you wont have any problems with qualifiers meaning anything. countries will know what they have to do and when they have to do it. It will also, in time, sort out any problems with quality.

I have always said that the quality of football from the lower tier nations at the RL world cup will be far superior to the quality of footy from their RU counterparts.
 

Woods99

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brendothejet said:
nup. doesn't work.

The way to run the world cup is simply this. Regularly.

If the world cup came around every 4 years then you wont have any problems with qualifiers meaning anything. countries will know what they have to do and when they have to do it. It will also, in time, sort out any problems with quality.

I have always said that the quality of football from the lower tier nations at the RL world cup will be far superior to the quality of footy from their RU counterparts.

The lower tier nations = Western Sydney.:D :D :D
 

brendothejet

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Woods99 said:
The lower tier nations = Western Sydney.:D :D :D

The lower tier IQ = Woods 99

You know international Rugby is rife with blokes from Australia, England and NZ playing in international teams and their respective club comps. Deal with it.
 

dimitri

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brendothejet said:
The lower tier IQ = Woods 99

You know international Rugby is rife with blokes from Australia, England and NZ playing in international teams and their respective club comps. Deal with it.

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taipan

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brendothejet said:
The lower tier IQ = Woods 99

You know international Rugby is rife with blokes from Australia, England and NZ playing in international teams and their respective club comps. Deal with it.

He knows it and like all union chaps,likes to keep it under the carpet known as reality.
No tri series BTW mixed in with a WC>A WC every 4 years to grow and develop the game is the way to go.There have already been proposals/offers put in by various state govts and stadii for the 2008 WC,so keep it neat .
 

Woods99

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brendothejet said:
The lower tier IQ = Woods 99

You know international Rugby is rife with blokes from Australia, England and NZ playing in international teams and their respective club comps. Deal with it.

The IRB would deal with any instances of unqualified players in representative teams. The IRB rules are quite clear.

What are the international rugby league rules for qualification?
 

Woods99

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taipan said:
He knows it and like all union chaps,likes to keep it under the carpet known as reality.

Taipan,

I know what is real, and what is not. What are the rules for international representation in rugby league? Who sets them, and who polices them?

In fact, who actually runs international rugby league?

Hit me with some "reality", so that I can put it under my carpet.:D
 

taipan

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Woods99 said:
Taipan,

I know what is real, and what is not. What are the rules for international representation in rugby league? Who sets them, and who polices them?

In fact, who actually runs international rugby league?

Hit me with some "reality", so that I can put it under my carpet.:D

1.Only countries with a domestic comp with min 6 teams.Restrictions on the number of players born overseas ie like lebanon in 2000.
2.The tournament will be held over 4 weeks almost certainly March 2008,delaying the NRL kickoff and will encompass 10 teams.
3. Australia/England/NZ/france/PNG will be seeded,with pac Rim and European and everyone else in qualifying tournaments
4.A full strength pac rim tournament involving pro players ,is on the drawing board for end of 2007.
5.The teams will be divided into pools
6.Games will be staged individually ,not as double headers
7.venues from Perth to Christchurch are under consideration.
8.Colin Love will be tournament director,with a new company around him to administer the series.
9.The RLIF aims to sign rights agreements which will give the world cup a wider TV audience than any match in rugby league history.
10.Most games will be played on weekends.
11.Prelim talks with prospective naming rights sponsors are already under way.

Source-respected rugby leaue writer Steve Mascord formerly of the Sydney Morning Herald in rugby league world August 2005 issue ,after an interview with Love.
A further interview with Richard Lewis head of the ESL in rugby league world current Jan 2006 issue,adding his further points and confirmation on Love's interviews.

ATM the RLIF via the ESL and ARL/NZRL.No old farts from Twickenham BTW.

Bit hard to put any more under your reality carpet,its full of French rugby league assets.:)
Cant give you the ticketing details as yet,you will just have to be patient.:(
 

Woods99

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Taipan,


Brendothejet made a peurile statement to the effect that "everybody knows that international rugby union teams are full of Aussies, Poms and New Zealanders".

You agreed, saying that I, Woods99, know this, but prefer to keep it under the carpet.

Your last post was full of uncalled-for detail, but did not answer the basic question that I asked.

I will ask it again. There are clear rules about qualification for international representation in rugby union. What are the rules in rugby league? And who sets them?

I have in mind players representing one country in a League World Cup, and another in other types of internationals.

Carpets? Reality? Pots? Kettles?
 

bowes

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Woods99 said:
I will ask it again. There are clear rules about qualification for international representation in rugby union. What are the rules in rugby league? And who sets them?
The rules are pretty much the same: have a grandparent from the country you want to play for and you're fine. AT the moment you can change country in rugby league but not rugby union (you also can at the olympics so it's not unusual) There are clear rules in the next world cup with regards to local players in your squad and number of clubs in your domestic league (that some of the teams in the RWC qualifying would fail.

Look, I like rugby union, I like rugby league. It's not hard to bag off rugby league if you try, BUT IF YOU DO SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT OTHERWISE YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.
 

bender

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Woods99 said:
Taipan,


Brendothejet made a peurile statement to the effect that "everybody knows that international rugby union teams are full of Aussies, Poms and New Zealanders".

You agreed, saying that I, Woods99, know this, but prefer to keep it under the carpet.

Your last post was full of uncalled-for detail, but did not answer the basic question that I asked.

I will ask it again. There are clear rules about qualification for international representation in rugby union. What are the rules in rugby league? And who sets them?

I have in mind players representing one country in a League World Cup, and another in other types of internationals.

Carpets? Reality? Pots? Kettles?
What are the Rugby Union rules?
 

Woods99

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bowes said:
The rules are pretty much the same: have a grandparent from the country you want to play for and you're fine. AT the moment you can change country in rugby league but not rugby union (you also can at the olympics so it's not unusual) There are clear rules in the next world cup with regards to local players in your squad and number of clubs in your domestic league (that some of the teams in the RWC qualifying would fail.

Look, I like rugby union, I like rugby league. It's not hard to bag off rugby league if you try, BUT IF YOU DO SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT OTHERWISE YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

What facts did I get wrong about rugby league's player qualification rules?
 
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brendothejet said:
The lower tier IQ = Woods 99

You know international Rugby is rife with blokes from Australia, England and NZ playing in international teams and their respective club comps. Deal with it.

You mean Australia, England, New Zealand, Celtic Nations, France, Japan and Italy ;-) .

International league is rife with blokes from the NRL and Superleague .

Deal with it .
 

brendothejet

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yeah cause the italians and the japanese are f**king world RU powerhouses. they are retirement homes for rubbish australian players.

PW, i asked you to show me the origins of the player from the Aus, NZ, French and British teams but you wouldn't cause your a cat that can't backup anything he says.
 

Woods99

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brendothejet said:
yeah cause the italians and the japanese are f**king world RU powerhouses. they are retirement homes for rubbish australian players.

Sour grapes. Wouldn't you be happy if either Japan or Italy played rugby league to anything other than a token extent?

Name the "rubbish" Australians playing for either country?
 
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