Injuries a blessing?

[Graftonpanther]

The move of Whare to Centre has been the right move he looks like an international centre, he is playing some good football now.

 

[franklin2323]

I was speaking to Austin 6-8 weeks left.

Roberts is ready now. It will be when to change a team going well. I assume after the bye is the time gives him 2 more weeks to get well & truly match fit.

 

[maple_69]

If we're wondering when to make changes the answer is clearly after the bye. Our momentum will be halted slightly anyway, Roberts get a few more games coniditioning under his belt AND we play the Tigers.

 

[chrisD]

Brown barely defends in the centres, John defended in the centre most the night last night, they switch on about tackle 4.

Austin is heavier than Docker, Smith and Brown. And depending on which source Robinson and Taylor too.

 

[soc123_au]

LOL f**k me dead you don't want much, a flogging of the Storm? lol. Come on mate...lets not forget where we are right now compared to the Storm. lol

The Storm very rarely let teams flog them and we scored 3 good tries against them, it was just kicking last week that let us down otherwise it was 18-0 and if Segeyaro had held the ball for his run in the 2nd half would have been 24-0...not many teams put that on the Storm.

Roberts/Jennings/Satini will be in that centre position in a few weeks and Brown back to the backrow with Newton gone.

IMO.

The more tries comment was tounge in cheek. I actually enjoyed the storm game more than last night.

 

[marty65]

That's Cleary 2011 like thinking and it's scary.

I'm a bit confused (actually quite a lot!) by that statement Chris...:?.
Can you please explain?

Didn't Cleary take the Warriors to the grandfinal in 2011....with Brown playing in the centres???

If Cleary is going to get us to the grandfinal (or even just the semis), then I couldn't care less if he uses hookers and props as our centres....:lol:.
Whaterver works.

 

[Randy81]

The move of Whare to Centre has been the right move he looks like an international centre, he is playing some good football now.

The flick pass to Simmons down the wing was one of the match highlights for mine

 

[Big Mick]

The more tries comment was tounge in cheek. I actually enjoyed the storm game more than last night.

I figured that...hence the lols :lol:

 

[chrisD]

I'm a bit confused (actually quite a lot!) by that statement Chris...:?.
Can you please explain?

Didn't Cleary take the Warriors to the grandfinal in 2011....with Brown playing in the centres???

If Cleary is going to get us to the grandfinal (or even just the semis), then I couldn't care less if he uses hookers and props as our centres....:lol:.
Whaterver works.

Yes Brown did play centre 2011 for the back half of the season much to the fans frustration and was paired with Mannering at times. It's terrible logic and the best centres are nothing like back rowers but for one or two freaks. Jennings, Morris, Ferguson, Gagai, Matai, Lyon, Tate, Wighton, etc, centres, nothing like back rowers. Inglis is a freak who could play back row and Hodges could probably make a fist of it, Idris about the only other one.

 

[marty65]

Fair enough Chris. We have a bit of a different opinion about Brown. Thats what this forum is for. All I can say though, is that if the Warriors supporters were frustrated in 2011 (when they made the grandfinal)...how the hell are they feeling now????....:lol::lol::lol:. They could be in suicidal territory...LOL.

 

[Graftonpanther]

I understand what you are saying Chris, I just think that we should leave Brown there until a good centre is ready to take his spot, such as Roberts or Jennings.

I just do not want to see them put Naquama back there because he is shit, I would not want to see either Daniela or Tighe again either.

Agree Randy that flick pass was good.

 

[betcats]

Yes Brown did play centre 2011 for the back half of the season much to the fans frustration and was paired with Mannering at times. It's terrible logic and the best centres are nothing like back rowers but for one or two freaks. Jennings, Morris, Ferguson, Gagai, Matai, Lyon, Tate, Wighton, etc, centres, nothing like back rowers. Inglis is a freak who could play back row and Hodges could probably make a fist of it, Idris about the only other one.

:crazy: Brown scored two tries on the weekend. Not all backrowers are the same you know,For example Lewis Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Paul Gallen, Luke Lewis, Sika Manu, Tarig Sims...all very different shapes and sizes.

I mean you said it yourself the warriors went to the GF with Brown in the centres, I bet they wouldnt have with Wes in the centres.

 

[franklin2323]

I understand what you are saying Chris, I just think that we should leave Brown there until a good centre is ready to take his spot, such as Roberts or Jennings.

I just do not want to see them put Naquama back there because he is shit, I would not want to see either Daniela or Tighe again either.

I agree. What we lose in possible attack (Not that our attack was good either) we more then make up for the defence. Since he and Robinson on that side. 2 tries let in. 1 of those off a kick and 1 that 6 other players also missed.

Not ideal but the best option atm

 

[chrisD]

:crazy: Brown scored two tries on the weekend. Not all backrowers are the same you know,For example Lewis Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Paul Gallen, Luke Lewis, Sika Manu, Tarig Sims...all very different shapes and sizes.

I mean you said it yourself the warriors went to the GF with Brown in the centres, I bet they wouldnt have with Wes in the centres.

He played well on the weekend, in a 60 point win opposite Johnson most of the game who was defending terribly. The Warriors went to the gf with Brown in the centres, and yet Cleary moved him next season, and then moved him back at the end of the year due to injuries where he didn't win a single game.

Someone said back rowers are like centres these days, I made the point they're not, I don't know what point you're making.

 

[MaxPower]

Cleary wasn't coach of the warriors in 2012.

 

[Graftonpanther]

We will have to agree to disagree Chris, as long as we keep playing with the spirit and effort we are at the moment I think we will all be happy.

 

[betcats]

He played well on the weekend, in a 60 point win opposite Johnson most of the game who was defending terribly. The Warriors went to the gf with Brown in the centres, and yet Cleary moved him next season, and then moved him back at the end of the year due to injuries where he didn't win a single game.

Someone said back rowers are like centres these days, I made the point they're not, I don't know what point you're making.

The point im making is that all backrowers are not the same, so therefore the blanket statement that "backrowers are not like centres" is stupid as some of them clearly can play the position and play it well.

Sure I would rather a specialist centre and Lewis in the Backrow but not if the specialist centre is Tighe or Wes, they both had a chance this season and Lewis is already outperforming both of them. Cant you see that? Three of our four wins have come with Lewis in the centres.

When one of our youngsters is ready give them a shot, until then leave Lewis there.

 

[chrisD]

The point im making is that all backrowers are not the same, so therefore the blanket statement that "backrowers are not like centres" is stupid as some of them clearly can play the position and play it well.

Sure I would rather a specialist centre and Lewis in the Backrow but not if the specialist centre is Tighe or Wes, they both had a chance this season and Lewis is already outperforming both of them. Cant you see that? Three of our four wins have come with Lewis in the centres.

When one of our youngsters is ready give them a shot, until then leave Lewis there.

So please, do explain, which backrower is built like Gagai? Which back rower is built like Jennings? Who matches up with Matai? Props can play centre too, if you put them there, and if the team wins you might even convince some people it's because you put the prop at centre.

Tighe and Wes are copping the brunt of the team's edges having been consistently outnumbered and before Moylan was in the team there having been horrible back line movement/service, that and fans being willfully blind. Apparently when a centre does not come up with the stop when confronted with three or four attackers that makes them a poor defensive centre (except Whare oddly). Especially nonsensical when Cleary has Brown defending inside centre (which he could do playing back row) whereas Tighe and Wes actually did defend at centre for the most part.

Brown looked every bit as shit as them in the shitty team against Newcastle, had a nothing game against Parra despite us strolling home and the real changes that have improved the team actually occurring then and he missed 5 tackles and 2 ineffective for 16 made against the Roosters. Prior to the NZ slaughter he was providing about 1 tackle bust a game, and not at all particularly impressive defensive statistics.

So no, I can't see how he is outperforming both of them. He looks better because the team is looking a shit load better.

 

[betcats]

So please, do explain, which backrower is built like Gagai? Which back rower is built like Jennings? Who matches up with Matai? Props can play centre too, if you put them there, and if the team wins you might even convince some people it's because you put the prop at centre.

Tighe and Wes are copping the brunt of the team's edges having been consistently outnumbered and before Moylan was in the team there having been horrible back line movement/service, that and fans being willfully blind. Apparently when a centre does not come up with the stop when confronted with three or four attackers that makes them a poor defensive centre (except Whare oddly). Especially nonsensical when Cleary has Brown defending inside centre (which he could do playing back row) whereas Tighe and Wes actually did defend at centre for the most part.

Brown looked every bit as shit as them in the shitty team against Newcastle, had a nothing game against Parra despite us strolling home and the real changes that have improved the team actually occurring then and he missed 5 tackles and 2 ineffective for 16 made against the Roosters. Prior to the NZ slaughter he was providing about 1 tackle bust a game, and not at all particularly impressive defensive statistics.

So no, I can't see how he is outperforming both of them. He looks better because the team is looking a shit load better.

Blah blah blah The best centres in the game for the last 6 or 7 years have been Hodges and Inglis, neither of them are built like Gagai or Jennings lol.

Even if you dont think Lewis has outperformed them you just admitted the team has been a shitload better, so why change it when it is working?
Because Lewis doesnt have the right build lol what a joke.

 

[betcats]

And by the way Lewis is listed as 179cm tall and 97kgs. Jennings 180cm tall and 94kg so 4kg and 1cm is the big difference between them. That is taken from their current playing profiles.