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Archangel2

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Oh by the way Skinner, Mean, Oz Bash, Sam the Man, nice site! I think you maybe getting some new freinds here....all good! Talk again soon.
 

Archangel2

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Just found this Skinner, have a read...Oh dear Cameron....your dirty little secret is out :

http://stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/4012294a6444.html

By : TONY WALL and STEVE KILGALLON

Auckland Rugby League has paid more than $1 million for another bar, despite losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on its previous pub investments, and seems to have tried to keep it secret by creating a separate trust to make the purchase.

The league's previous pub investments were clearly marked in its annual accounts, but its purchase of a pokie bar in south Auckland, understood to be for $1.2 million, has been referred to only obliquely in accounts for the 2006 financial year.

Under the heading "Capital Commitments", it is revealed that "subsequent to the balance date Auckland Rugby League Inc has acquired land and buildings in Great South Rd, Manurewa".

The Sunday Star-Times has learned that that address off Station Rd, once the site of a Pizza Hut, is now the premises of Playaz Bar, one of south Auckland's most popular and profitable pokie bars.

But the league has not purchased the business, only the land and buildings, through the VTM Trust, which the Star-Times understands is funded by the ARL and includes ARL personnel. The business is run by another company, LP Hospitality, which has no connection to the league.

The Playaz bar business and land were previously owned by Tim Connolly, whose company SAS Sports has the contract to supply jerseys to the Kiwis and Bartercard Cup teams. Connolly sold it to an Asian consortium about six months ago, and it was then sold to the VTM Trust.

The ARL and the NZRL previously bought pubs formerly owned by NZRL deputy chairman Selwyn Bennett and ex-Warriors prop Terry Hermansson in an effort to shore up gaming machine revenue and create an Australian-style leagues' clubs empire. But that venture ended in disaster a year ago, with the ARL having to write off a $145,000 investment in the Duke of Wellington hotel and an $80,000 investment in the Oak and Black Dog.

The ARL also had to write off most of a $250,000 investment in Cafe Espresso Ltd, a company owned by bankrupt former star player Brent Todd and his business partner Malik Wijeyaratne. Todd has since been charged with pokie fraud by the Serious Fraud Office.

The ARL gave Todd a $100,000 interest-free loan in an attempt to get back some of the money it was owed, but the latest accounts show that loan has been written off as well.

ARL chairman Cameron McGregor said a year ago that, despite the losses, owning the pubs had allowed the league to "galvanise" its relationship with the Lion Foundation, which had gaming machines in the pubs.

That comment is understood to have got McGregor in hot water with the Lion Foundation, as pub owners cannot be seen to be influencing where gaming funding goes.

McGregor would not discuss the latest purchase. "What we do is our own business, good investment or bad investment," he said, stressing that the purchase was separate to ARL business.

The Star-Times understands that to avoid the mistakes of its previous pub foray, the ARL has this time deliberately stepped away from buying the bar business, acting solely as landlord. Playaz bar attracts rental of about $100,000 a year, standard for the area.

Former Counties Manukau rugby player Lindsay Raki, who manages the bar for LP Hospitality, said he had yet to be approached by the new owners. He said it was a mystery as to why the ARL would want the land and buildings.

Raki said LP Hospitality collected close to $200,000 a year in rental payments from the Lion Foundation for the 18 poker machines housed on site. Raki said he hoped the Lion Foundation would continue to distribute the pokie money locally and to a variety of organisations.
 

Skinner

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Welcome along mate.

Just be very aware that we do have some pretty strict posting rules on this site.

Any post that even smells like defamation (along with racism, personal abuse etc and
all the other bad stuff) is deleted on sight.

LeagueUnlimited is the biggest and the best, and we simply cannot afford (literally) to have
even a threat of legal action.

All that aside, I wish you well on your "crusade" to have justice served. Undoubtedly
there have been many, many dirty deeds done over the years, but as you will be more
than aware, there is a pretty big wall of silence.

Cheers
Skinner
 

Skinner

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Archangel2 said:
Just found this Skinner, have a read...Oh dear Cameron....your dirty little secret is out :

http://stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/4012294a6444.html

By : TONY WALL and STEVE KILGALLON

Auckland Rugby League has paid more than $1 million for another bar, despite losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on its previous pub investments, and seems to have tried to keep it secret by creating a separate trust to make the purchase.

The league's previous pub investments were clearly marked in its annual accounts, but its purchase of a pokie bar in south Auckland, understood to be for $1.2 million, has been referred to only obliquely in accounts for the 2006 financial year.

Under the heading "Capital Commitments", it is revealed that "subsequent to the balance date Auckland Rugby League Inc has acquired land and buildings in Great South Rd, Manurewa".

The Sunday Star-Times has learned that that address off Station Rd, once the site of a Pizza Hut, is now the premises of Playaz Bar, one of south Auckland's most popular and profitable pokie bars.

But the league has not purchased the business, only the land and buildings, through the VTM Trust, which the Star-Times understands is funded by the ARL and includes ARL personnel. The business is run by another company, LP Hospitality, which has no connection to the league.

The Playaz bar business and land were previously owned by Tim Connolly, whose company SAS Sports has the contract to supply jerseys to the Kiwis and Bartercard Cup teams. Connolly sold it to an Asian consortium about six months ago, and it was then sold to the VTM Trust.

The ARL and the NZRL previously bought pubs formerly owned by NZRL deputy chairman Selwyn Bennett and ex-Warriors prop Terry Hermansson in an effort to shore up gaming machine revenue and create an Australian-style leagues' clubs empire. But that venture ended in disaster a year ago, with the ARL having to write off a $145,000 investment in the Duke of Wellington hotel and an $80,000 investment in the Oak and Black Dog.

The ARL also had to write off most of a $250,000 investment in Cafe Espresso Ltd, a company owned by bankrupt former star player Brent Todd and his business partner Malik Wijeyaratne. Todd has since been charged with pokie fraud by the Serious Fraud Office.

The ARL gave Todd a $100,000 interest-free loan in an attempt to get back some of the money it was owed, but the latest accounts show that loan has been written off as well.

ARL chairman Cameron McGregor said a year ago that, despite the losses, owning the pubs had allowed the league to "galvanise" its relationship with the Lion Foundation, which had gaming machines in the pubs.

That comment is understood to have got McGregor in hot water with the Lion Foundation, as pub owners cannot be seen to be influencing where gaming funding goes.

McGregor would not discuss the latest purchase. "What we do is our own business, good investment or bad investment," he said, stressing that the purchase was separate to ARL business.

The Star-Times understands that to avoid the mistakes of its previous pub foray, the ARL has this time deliberately stepped away from buying the bar business, acting solely as landlord. Playaz bar attracts rental of about $100,000 a year, standard for the area.

Former Counties Manukau rugby player Lindsay Raki, who manages the bar for LP Hospitality, said he had yet to be approached by the new owners. He said it was a mystery as to why the ARL would want the land and buildings.

Raki said LP Hospitality collected close to $200,000 a year in rental payments from the Lion Foundation for the 18 poker machines housed on site. Raki said he hoped the Lion Foundation would continue to distribute the pokie money locally and to a variety of organisations.

I posted that on a forum somewhere at the time. It didn't get a huge reaction from
memory.

I thought it was dispicable. The Auckland Clubs just don't seem to give a stuff.
 

Archangel2

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"Any post that even smells like defamation (along with racism, personal abuse etc and
all the other bad stuff) is deleted on sight."

Yeah fair enough Brother, not really into bigotry anyways, defamation? dont worry usually get anything checked out by my Legal Beagle...And justice will indeed be served.
 

Archangel2

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LOL...thought that might draw you in Archy.. Couldn't stay away.
Yup I guess they have beenbeaten with the big stick first Skinner, it was the Auckland Clubs who put the original money in to fund Carlaw Park wasn't it? So now that theres $20 million in the bank shouldn't they now see a return on that5 money? Or will Auckland Mac and his buddies see it as there money? I guess only time will tell, but I would be very surprised if they dont demand there cash back. always a pleasure meeting new mates and opponents. Talk again soon better buggar off and do some work.
Excelsior!
 

Skinner

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Archangel2 said:
LOL...thought that might draw you in Archy.. Couldn't stay away.
Yup I guess they have beenbeaten with the big stick first Skinner, it was the Auckland Clubs who put the original money in to fund Carlaw Park wasn't it? So now that theres $20 million in the bank shouldn't they now see a return on that5 money? Or will Auckland Mac and his buddies see it as there money? I guess only time will tell, but I would be very surprised if they dont demand there cash back. always a pleasure meeting new mates and opponents. Talk again soon better buggar off and do some work.
Excelsior!

Always enjoy having a yarn with grass roots leagueys mate. That's where my heart lies.
 

Lossy

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I think the NZ section is going to get quite a few more hits now, Skinner. Feel free to do some IP tracking. : )
 

Skinner

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Skinner said:
I posted that on a forum somewhere at the time. It didn't get a huge reaction from
memory.

I thought it was dispicable. The Auckland Clubs just don't seem to give a stuff.

Yeah, I found it......it got two responses. Have to say though, that particular site IS
Warriors centric (as you'd expect) with not a great grass roots following.
 

Archangel2

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MKEB....Ahhh a man with a brain finally, A 'Scarfie' Mark Mark? Maybe in another life.
And you what would the connection be?
 

MKEB...

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"Archangel," gave me the connection.

MKEB = mad kiwi elloco bandido... nothing to do with a mark, ask martli he made the banner. Beyond me.
 

Archangel2

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SNAP!

Cody Meads appointed by Selwyn Pearson to run rugby league in Wellington from September 2002 rings a Wellington Club Chairman (X) on Saturday morning 1 December 2007 beside himself with glee and gloating that the “big fella” has gone, “I told you X that Selwyn Pearson should not have gone and that Selwyn should have stayed as Executive Chairman of NZRL. Chalmers has s..t on Sel and let him down. You watch, X in 3 weeks the NZRL is going to be put into receivership and the past will be buried.”

We got it wrong;

It wasn’t the NZRL Board that was going to put NZRL into receivership but the pending Court action of SAS Managing Director Tim Connolly (that’s fine his Company’s call but is there a family connection? is suing the NZRL for $3M. According to the Herald on Sunday report, court proceedings are due to commence Monday 15 December 2007 i.e. the 3 week time period!(21 days 21 days 21 days)

The Herald on Sunday report also quotes Tim Connolly saying that "All of the ex-board members who voted ratified [the agreement] have all said they are happy to stand up in court and say they fully agree with our position....."

Re the “ex Board members” comment:

The NZRL Audited accounts for 2006 list the “Executive Members” of the NZRL Board as:

• Selwyn Pearson (President) Resigned March 2006
• Keith Pittman Resigned July 2006
• Selwyn Bennett Resigned October 2006
• Andrew Chalmers Elected March 2005
• Keith Burgess Elected March 2006
• Peter Douglas Elected March 2005

• Vinnie Weir co-opted November 2006
• Tony Kemp co-opted Novermbr 2007

At the NZRL AGM on 28 April 2007 the following Board appointments were confirmed:

• Andrew Chalmers Resigned 30 November 2007
• Ray Haffenden
• Vinnie Weir
• Neville Keisha
• Phil Campbell
• Peter Kerridge

The independents appointed after that were:

• Glenda Hughes Resigned 30 November 2007
• Simon Doig Resigned 30 November 2007
• Eddie Mathews Resigned 30 November 2007

You will note that Andrew Chalmers is the only one to have served on the Board in 2006 and based on what the media are saying legal advice was taken before the new ISC deal was put together so presumably the “ex-Board member witnesses” will all come from 2006? So does this mean it is Andrew Chalmers word against the other Directors of 2006 or are the other Directors now going against Andrew ?

So now we have Tim Connolly Managing Director of SAS suing the NZRL for $3M. Quite simply if the NZRL is going to be sold down the drain then as members we have a right to know what’s going on and what the conflicts of interest and or relationships might be? The Sunday Star Times had the following report in June 2006 which sheds some light:
(Sorry already posted it earlier but in context with what my wellington associate has found it all starts to add up...Remember Skinner I said it smelt incredibly like fish?

ARL pours $1.2m into South Auckland Bar

By : TONY WALL and STEVE KILGALLON

Auckland Rugby League has paid more than $1 million for another bar, despite losing hundreds of thousands of dollars on its previous pub investments, and seems to have tried to keep it secret by creating a separate trust to make the purchase.

The league's previous pub investments were clearly marked in its annual accounts, but its purchase of a pokie bar in south Auckland, understood to be for $1.2 million, has been referred to only obliquely in accounts for the 2006 financial year.

Under the heading "Capital Commitments", it is revealed that "subsequent to the balance date Auckland Rugby League Inc has acquired land and buildings in Great South Rd, Manurewa".

The Sunday Star-Times has learned that that address off Station Rd, once the site of a Pizza Hut, is now the premises of Playaz Bar, one of south Auckland's most popular and profitable pokie bars.

But the league has not purchased the business, only the land and buildings, through the VTM Trust, which the Star-Times understands is funded by the ARL and includes ARL personnel. The business is run by another company, LP Hospitality, which has no connection to the league.

The Playaz bar business and land were previously owned by Tim Connolly, whose company SAS Sports has the contract to supply jerseys to the Kiwis and Bartercard Cup teams. Connolly sold it to an Asian consortium about six months ago, and it was then sold to the VTM Trust.

The ARL and the NZRL previously bought pubs formerly owned by NZRL deputy chairman Selwyn Bennett and ex-Warriors prop Terry Hermansson in an effort to shore up gaming machine revenue and create an Australian-style leagues' clubs empire. But that venture ended in disaster a year ago, with the ARL having to write off a $145,000 investment in the Duke of Wellington hotel and an $80,000 investment in the Oak and Black Dog.

The ARL also had to write off most of a $250,000 investment in Cafe Espresso Ltd, a company owned by bankrupt former star player Brent Todd and his business partner Malik Wijeyaratne. Todd has since been charged with pokie fraud by the Serious Fraud Office.

The ARL gave Todd a $100,000 interest-free loan in an attempt to get back some of the money it was owed, but the latest accounts show that loan has been written off as well.

ARL chairman Cameron McGregor said a year ago that, despite the losses, owning the pubs had allowed the league to "galvanise" its relationship with the Lion Foundation, which had gaming machines in the pubs.

That comment is understood to have got McGregor in hot water with the Lion Foundation, as pub owners cannot be seen to be influencing where gaming funding goes.

McGregor would not discuss the latest purchase. "What we do is our own business, good investment or bad investment," he said, stressing that the purchase was separate to ARL business.
 

Archangel2

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"What we do with our own money is our own business, good investment or bad investment!" Well Cammy tend to disagree with you actually, it reflects on all RL, considering rightly or wrongly the post that you hold, why is it Cammy you look after your mates but not the game? What a winner! And all this time, everyone thinks your working with the best interests of League eh?
 

MKEB...

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Archangel2 said:
MKEB....Ahhh a man with a brain finally, A 'Scarfie' Mark Mark? Maybe in another life.
And you what would the connection be?

Former barber in Bond street...
 

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