Is it time for the NRL to stand down (with pay) players charged with a violent crime?

[TheFrog]

Id personally be fine with JDB being allowed to play football at a lower level, just out of the spotlight of NRL first grade and reps.

A bit dangerous having him running around in park footy. I'm sure he can handle himself but someone might want to make a name for themselves.

 

[Timmah]

I wonder if we will see any trumped up rape charges against key players leading into the finals each year.

Does anyone think of the potential pitfalls of knee jerk decisions like these before they make them?

That's a fairly long bow to draw. The Police and DPP need a fairly firm base of claim & evidence to actually make such a charge. That evidence base is clearly detailed for the JDB case.

It would take something fairly significant to "trump up a rape charge" against a key player.

 

[Valheru]

That's a fairly long bow to draw. The Police and DPP need a fairly firm base of claim & evidence to actually make such a charge. That evidence base is clearly detailed for the JDB case.

It would take something fairly significant to "trump up a rape charge" against a key player.

True

DV could be a different kettle of fish though...

 

[Timmah]

True

DV could be a different kettle of fish though...

It would still need to be a fairly serious charge.

It's also worth noting creating a false narrative to such an extent would see anyone "trumping up" such charges punished fairly severely, you'd think.

 

[siv]

It would still need to be a fairly serious charge.

It's also worth noting creating a false narrative to such an extent would see anyone "trumping up" such charges punished fairly severely, you'd think.

Only have to drop the charges a month later

Illegal betting would have no issue in using extortion methods

 

[firechild]

Only have to drop the charges a month later

Keep in mind the NRL isn't played on the set of CSI MIami or Chicago PD. In Australia, the victim does not decide whether or not to press charges and therefore has no power to drop them.

 

[siv]

Have we got answers to these questions

1 - who pays the stood down player - the NRL or the club ?

2 - can the club replace that player in their 30 man squad ? These court cases can take 1 or 2 years or more

3 - are there any salary cap concessions applied ?

 

[Eion]

Have we got answers to these questions

1 - who pays the stood down player - the NRL or the club ?

2 - can the club replace that player in their 30 man squad ? These court cases can take 1 or 2 years or more

3 - are there any salary cap concessions applied ?

1. Club
2 and 3. Yes. Club can apply for salary cap dispensation / moving a player into the 30 on a case by case.

 

[firechild]

Have we got answers to these questions

1 - who pays the stood down player - the NRL or the club ?

2 - can the club replace that player in their 30 man squad ? These court cases can take 1 or 2 years or more

3 - are there any salary cap concessions applied ?

1. The club
2. Yes. Clubs only have to register 29 players prior to June 30 though.
3. "If Thursday’s ARL Commission annual general meeting decides to stand down players, such as St George Illawarra lock Jack de Belin and Manly centre Dylan Walker, until the outcome of their court cases are determined those clubs are likely to receive salary cap relief to help them sign replacements."

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/02/27...eld-issues-set-to-spark-late-transfer-frenzy/

 

[simmo05]

Kill someone on the piss your ok, but root 1 dog.....

 

[siv]

Thats a hard on a club if the player is a rep player

Thats $500k paid out for no return

In fact the club now also has to pay a further potential $250k for a replacement

And the club is now stuck as they cannot terminate his contract either

 

[Timmah]

Thats a hard on a club if the player is a rep player

Thats $500k paid out for no return

In fact the club now also has to pay a further potential $250k for a replacement

And the club is now stuck as they cannot terminate his contract either

Doesn't the NRL guarantee player's payments through the club funding model anyway?

The club pays the player, yes, but the NRL provides those funds through the club grant, that was my understanding (unless that's another code and my wires are crossed?)

 

[kbw]

I'm of the opinion that neither Napa's actions nor Burgess' brought the game into disrepute and I'm annoyed that it appears Napa will be punished. I guess that's up for debate.

However, your statements that Inglis was "not punished for his indiscretion" and "basically got off scot free" are simply lies, he was stood down as the national team captain and suspended for two matches.

I can certainly agree that he should've been punished more - by both court and code - but he did not escape punishment as you have claimed.

Effectively scott free then . I think you can argue that he should not be picked for Australia regardless.

On Napa , a severe kick up the ass was def in order. but it also shows what a vile creature the leaker of the video is.
I disagree on Burgess what he did was as bad as Pearce (or worse) its not a Roosters v Souths thing, but to face a panel of of south's people. I like a lot of people are sick of the inconsistency

 

[Chimp]

Interesting that players being stood down can lead to cap dispensation - particularly when you've got a number of clubs over the cap for 2019 because they'd planned on a bigger cap when doing contracts a couple of years ago based on NRL guidance that they then changed.
This dispensations are going to create room for player movement, essentially adding more money into the overall cap.
NRL have created a solution to one of the problems they created.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Fair enough by nrl

Can't have accused rapists playing footy

 

[AJB1102]

Thats a hard on a club if the player is a rep player

Thats $500k paid out for no return

In fact the club now also has to pay a further potential $250k for a replacement

And the club is now stuck as they cannot terminate his contract either

Tough. Blokes get injured, blokes play like garbage, blokes get suspended. If you're paying someone $500k+ it's reasonable to expect he avoids situations that find him facing an 11 year maximum sentence.

 

[Pommy]

Tough. Blokes get injured, blokes play like garbage, blokes get suspended. If you're paying someone $500k+ it's reasonable to expect he avoids situations that find him facing an 11 year maximum sentence.

That situation could just be having consensual sex with someone. I’m not saying no men are rapists but there’s plenty of women with a screw lose as well.
Leaving the current incident aside these are young men and not robots.

 

[AJB1102]

That situation could just be having consensual sex with someone. I’m not saying no men are rapists but there’s plenty of women with a screw lose as well.
Leaving the current incident aside these are young men and not robots.

This is also true. It's very difficult.

I'd say maybe the days of high profile sportspeople getting on it with the public should end, but that's unfair and no solution. The Bulldogs hired a private function room and got f**ked. Also blokes are gonna want and invite women whether they're at a pub or hired out an entire town and closed the doors.

 

[mave]

Yet more grey areas introduced.

Exactly what the NRL needs.

 

[Chimp]

That situation could just be having consensual sex with someone. I’m not saying no men are rapists but there’s plenty of women with a screw lose as well.
Leaving the current incident aside these are young men and not robots.

This is exactly the issue... a conpletely false and malicious claim of rape could be made against a player and he'd potnetially lose years of his career. That cannot be an acceptable solution.