Where do I start with all of this pointless crap.
Firstly this poll was obviously a thinly veiled attempt from CC eagle to justify his ludicrous claims of
"John Butler is the greatest songwriter in Australian history. At the moment I rate him as the most talented guitarist in Australian history as well "
from the Xavier Rudd thread
My response was a short one of "he is not an Australian" which I meant as him not being born here .
Maybe I should of said he is an American. He spent pretty much all his childhood years in The U.S.
Therefore making him an American , which sadly for you JB fans is the cold hard truth.
I admit that he did move here when he was a teenager or there abouts.
However he is still an American and nothing especially a piece of paper is going to change that.
I bet he still holds onto that US passport and he would never give it away.
Someone mentioned Greg Norman;
Answer me this ...is he American or Australian??????.
He has US residency ,his kids are yanks , he lives there and I think his wife is a yank.
I still think he is an Aussie even with that pseudo Aussie/yank accent because this is where he was born .
Now on John Butlers accent ,
CC wrote this:
He writes about Australian issues, donates a lot of money to Australian environmental groups and even has an Australian accent.
Let me enlighten you a little as you have probably never heard him speak or you are deaf.
Here is an extract from an interview he did on the ABC with George Negus.
GEORGE NEGUS: I guess we should explain to people your accent is North American - you're from California, originally.
JOHN BUTLER: Yeah, I was born there in 1975, and I moved here in 1986.
GEORGE NEGUS: So would you say that there are two sets of influences on you? 11 years is long enough for the American culture and society to have its impact on you.
JOHN BUTLER: Um, it was at a kind of pivotal point in my life. 11 is when you start...just before you start going through lots of changes. And moving from L.A. to a small country town in WA - Pinjarra - um, it was just at that time, I think, where there was a fork in the road...
http://www.abc.net.au/dimensions/dimensions_people/Transcripts/s881942.htm
So there you go on that one.
Now getting onto the next point, the Polls question was
Is John Butler an Australian or an American
?Then your question was
Do you consider John Butler to be Australian or American?
(He won several ARIA's this year)
Make up your mind , is it a people's opinion based poll or one based on fact.
If I was to vote going by the Poll's question there is only one real answer and that is he is an American.
He may well be an Australian citizen or permanent resident but he is still an a American.
People opinion's are fine that's why I didn't question your views on his guitar playing abilities.
You said it was your opinion, which is great.
ARIA'S
I have no idea what the ARIA awards have to do with where someone is born.
The Shihad example was just one of many contradictions with that argument.
It's a well known and embarrassing fact that Australia claims other nationalities as their own which was stated by NPK.
Phar Lap was a kiwi.
The Yanks do it to.
John Mc Enroe and Bruce Willis are West German's.
Finally getting off the topic , Alex28 wrote;
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject:
hmmm...carcharias absence from this post is interesting
It is now Monday morning .
When you wrote that post I was at the Annandale hotel supporting live music by watching "Evermore".
Who coincidently are a Kiwi band , who knows maybe they'll get an ARIA nomination.
I dont spend my weekends in front of the computer talking shit on internet forums....I save that for working hours where I can be paid for it.
