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Opinion Is Ricky Stuart the most overrated coach ever?

mongoose

Coach
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Can't see us being top 4 this year. We will probably go on a streak later in the year and squeeze into the 8. Right now we're adjusting to the new rules while also playing some unbelievably dumb footy.
 

MrBlack

Juniors
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Can't see us being top 4 this year. We will probably go on a streak later in the year and squeeze into the 8. Right now we're adjusting to the new rules while also playing some unbelievably dumb footy.
Is he overrated - probably, but he is experienced and does seem to know how to get the best out of his curent playing group.

Re: Top 4 - I think its still achievable this year. Other than Penrith and maybe the Warriors, no team has really started the year well.
 

glockers

Juniors
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854
Ok, before I state this I agree he is a very good coach. But considering the strength of his teams (especially how it helped with his Broncos titles) and his actual strike rate for winning titles, is Bennett actually the most overrated?

They treat him like the GOAT but arguably Gibson, Ryan, Gould, Bellamy, Cleary have better resumes. Then you have shorter term coaches who got the most out of their talent and were successful with what they had.

Think O'Reilly, Peard, Lang, Masters, Fulton.
 

BadnMean

Juniors
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1,471
Ok, before I state this I agree he is a very good coach. But considering the strength of his teams (especially how it helped with his Broncos titles) and his actual strike rate for winning titles, is Bennett actually the most overrated?

They treat him like the GOAT but arguably Gibson, Ryan, Gould, Bellamy, Cleary have better resumes. Then you have shorter term coaches who got the most out of their talent and were successful with what they had.

Think O'Reilly, Peard, Lang, Masters, Fulton.

I think Bennet jumped the shark years ago but at least he's won some things. That Dragons title just hauls him out of very over rated and into legitimacy.

As a club coach I've got Bellamy as better. Cleary could be, he's still carving things out.

Gould not in the same bracket as any of those guys as a club coach- Sheens way better than Gould even as a club coach, but he was good at origin (so was Bennett). Gould just on tv more so people blow smoke up him.
 

Woody90

Bench
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I watch most games every week, and I’ve never seen a team that stop and scream at the ref rather than getting on with it as much as the Raiders do.

Stick’s whinging clearly filtering down to his squad.
 

ColdWetPanther

First Grade
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5,092
I watch most games every week, and I’ve never seen a team that stop and scream at the ref rather than getting on with it as much as the Raiders do.

Stick’s whinging clearly filtering down to his squad.
I would say the Roosters, but the point is still well made.
 

Tiger5150

First Grade
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5,561
Ok, before I state this I agree he is a very good coach. But considering the strength of his teams (especially how it helped with his Broncos titles) and his actual strike rate for winning titles, is Bennett actually the most overrated?

They treat him like the GOAT but arguably Gibson, Ryan, Gould, Bellamy, Cleary have better resumes. Then you have shorter term coaches who got the most out of their talent and were successful with what they had.

Think O'Reilly, Peard, Lang, Masters, Fulton.
Sheens the head of that second group
 
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He put Horsburgh back the bench like I've been calling for and we win. He's just too hot-headed for the opening exchanges. Papa is probably too reckless early in games as well.

Masterstroke.
 

BadnMean

Juniors
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The great man was right when he said that the awarding of tries which leads to the bunker then taking them away is just plain wrong.

It's hard to celebrate.

Watch how quick they clear a Broncos try, even after a player clearly is tackled and then just gets up and plays on etc. They don't even look, they just hit the try button as quick as they can. Raiders try gets 7 minutes of painstaking analysis from every angle until they can twist a rule or come up with some cockamamy explanation to over rule an onfield try call on the flimsiest of pretexts. It's night and day.

On our furst disallowed melbourne try you can year the on field ref just flat out telling the bunker it's a try, wtf are you doing? Then the bunker says the ball is touched simultaneously (eg not offside or so close you support the onfield decision) yet somehow rules an offside...
 
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Watch how quick they clear a Broncos try, even after a player clearly is tackled and then just gets up and plays on etc. They don't even look, they just hit the try button as quick as they can. Raiders try gets 7 minutes of painstaking analysis from every angle until they can twist a rule or come up with some cockamamy explanation to over rule an onfield try call on the flimsiest of pretexts. It's night and day.

On our furst disallowed melbourne try you can year the on field ref just flat out telling the bunker it's a try, wtf are you doing? Then the bunker says the ball is touched simultaneously (eg not offside or so close you support the onfield decision) yet somehow rules an offside...

I know mate, it makes me sick.

Unfortunately we love a sport which is not an even playing field, and we are on the receiving end of a lot of crooked officiating.
 
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