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Is that the most one-sided refereeing performance you've seen this year?

user_nat

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The try that should have been disallowed for kicking the player at the play the ball and the try where the defender was obstructed. The latter has been a no try all season. This time the ref didnt even deem it worthy of a video look. That is incredulous considering how many of them have been sent upstairs and disallowed all season long.
Titans should have received a penalty on the spot for the kick, but not sure if the bunker can go back if it was before the play the ball?
Didn't see the second incident, so can't say.
 

TheFrog

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The start of many, though there were some iffy calls in the first half too. Gotta love how the bunker conveniently went to the play after the kick to give a penalty try like like the kick never happened. Sutton & Badger just ignored Friend's claim of a kick altogether.
Archer claimed the bunker did not have jurisdiction to rule on the kick because it was not from the play that resulted in the try. I think he's full of shite.
 

Vic Mackey

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You don't think it happens every week? Brisbane game threads are only ever eventful when we lose or something dramatic happens where the other team has the sense of "we were robbed", you classify it as butthurt but I am not butthurt on any level, we won the game ffs

If anything the butthurt comes from opposition supporters who were hoping to see us knocked out tonight, it didn't eventuate though did it, instead the underdog team lost and had decisions go against them, noone cares to discuss how poorly they played themselves, you'd think they played a flawless game of footy if you didn't actually watch it

Whilst yes the Broncos are generally a disliked team the Titans haven't won any fans lately. A lot of NRL followers believe they have been given a lot of special treatment by the NRL. Allowing Hayne to come In and the ridiculous non suspension of Ryan James stand out. All this after they become owned by the NRL who will placing them on the market next year.

Everyone on the wests Tigers social media were going for the Broncos, I dare say you'll struggle to find an Eels fan that was behind the Titans.

In a finals game the stakes are higher so horrible decisions stand out more, hence the out rage. I have no doubts that if tonight was the Dogs v panthers game and say the dogs were getting the bronco calls the outrage from neutrals would be just as fierce.
 

Perth Red

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Archer claimed the bunker did not have jurisdiction to rule on the kick because it was not from the play that resulted in the try. I think he's full of shite.

Surely it was in the process of playing the ball, just like if he had dropped it at that point before playing it they would have called it back. He had been tackled stood up which is the instigation of playing the ball. No doubt this is the BS they will spin to justify not making a call on it.
 

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you can't conclusively tell me that the Titans would have won tonight, they themselves played like arse at crucial stages
Prior to the game I had low expectations regarding the Titans chances of winning the game. This view was shared by the majority of the league community.
The fact that they were never given a chance to show if they were a chance or not is really disappointing.
I can't conclusively say they would have won without those dud calls go against them, just like you can't conclusively say the Broncos would have won if the calls didn't go against them.
The Titans did play like arse at crucial stages, just like the Broncos played like arse when the Titans scored their points, which were potential crucial stages.
 
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The ASIO need to launch and investigation into this and I'm not joking. I know referees are mostly incompetent morons but that was on another level.
 

Kilkenny

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It's OK for the 'Bunker' to step in, when they feel like it, and overturn or make a ruling on an incident not involving a try ie tonight in reversing a decision originally awarding a scrum feed to the Titans. That's fine.

But the 'Bunker' cannot step in, for the James Robert's incident as they can only rule on try or no try as the blatant foul play occurred prior to the play the ball?
 

Vic Mackey

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A couple of bad ones I can recall this season:

The second half of Wests Tigers-Melbourne after the Storm led 26-0 at half time was quite diabolical. The largesse was turned off as soon as the Tigers got within 6 though.

This was worse than both of those.

You mean a 22 minute period where we scored 20 points and had a 4-2 penalty count our way? Which still ended in 7-7 after 80 mins.

Wow what a landslide of biased reffing that sounds like.
 
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Perth Red

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It's OK for the 'Bunker' to step in, when they feel like it, and overturn or make a ruling on an incident not involving a try ie tonight in reversing a decision originally awarding a scrum feed to the Titans. That's fine.

But the 'Bunker' cannot step in, for the James Robert's incident as they can only rule on try or no try as the blatant foul play occurred prior to the play the ball?

Thing is the previous tackle had been completed and he stood up to play the ball therefore it was part of that lead up to the try and should be able to be reviewed. Like I said if he dropped the ball putting it down to play it they would look at it, this is no different.
 

TheFrog

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You mean a 22 minute period where we scored 20 points and had a 3-2 penalty count our way?

Wow what a landslide of biased reffing that sounds like.
It wasn't just penalties, Vic, they just couldn't get a call. And I am far from a supporter of the Storm, trust me. Anyway, it's not the subject at hand here.
 

Vic Mackey

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It wasn't just penalties, Vic, they just couldn't get a call. Anyway, it's not the subject at hand here.

They got a pretty good call in the first half when cooper cronk threw an NFL style pass for a try.

I'll also note that in the game at leichhardt against them Archer came out and admitted one of their tries shouldn't have been allowed. Considering we lost 19-18 and missed the finals by 1 point id say that was pretty fcking important
 
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Whilst yes the Broncos are generally a disliked team the Titans haven't won any fans lately. A lot of NRL followers believe they have been given a lot of special treatment by the NRL. Allowing Hayne to come In and the ridiculous non suspension of Ryan James stand out. All this after they become owned by the NRL who will placing them on the market next year.

Everyone on the wests Tigers social media were going for the Broncos, I dare say you'll struggle to find an Eels fan that was behind the Titans.

In a finals game the stakes are higher so horrible decisions stand out more, hence the out rage. I have no doubts that if tonight was the Dogs v panthers game and say the dogs were getting the bronco calls the outrage from neutrals would be just as fierce.

What exactly are you getting at here? How exactly is it our fault that the Eels couldn't fit Hayne into their system so he ended up coming here? I don't get why they'd be still salty at us over that. As for the Tigers, I agree James should have copped a suspension but I have no doubt a lot your fan's hate also stemmed from the fact that we made it to the 8 and they didn't. At least Woodsy still doesn't hold any grudge against us, after seeing his tweet tonight.
 

TheFrog

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I'll also note that in the game at leichhardt against them Archer came out and admitted one of their tries shouldn't have been allowed. Considering we lost 19-18 and missed the finals by 1 point id say that was pretty fcking important
Didn't see that game. You did get a rough time against us when you were well in front in the first match in the last 20 minutes, but nowhere near the magnitude of tonight. Maybe I'm biased in thinking that wasn't as bad as the Storm game the week before.
 

Vic Mackey

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What exactly are you getting at here? How exactly is it our fault that the Eels couldn't fit Hayne into their system so he ended up coming here? I don't get why they'd be still salty at us over that. As for the Tigers, I agree James should have copped a suspension but I have no doubt a lot your fan's hate also stemmed from the fact that we made it to the 8 and they didn't. At least Woodsy still doesn't hold any grudge against us, after seeing his tweet tonight.

All I'm saying is that it's not simply a bronco witch hunt like their fans would have us believe. I started the game going for the Broncos, ended up behind the Titans.
 

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As I said in the match thread, there was a lot of Titans grubbiness that went unpunished tonight, and I think the reason it went unpunished was because the officials were spooked by the penalty count, no matter how warranted it was.

This reluctance to continually penalise one side if required has gotta be stamped out quick smart because it hurts the more disciplined sides and it could potentially cost someone their spot in the finals.

*this is what Broncos fans actually believe*
 

Big Pete

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Ah, nothing like a good ol' referee whinge.

No doubt the Titans copped the brunt of some 'tough' calls, but most of them were technically correct. Even the Oates 'mid-air tackle/dangerous position' is consistent with a bunch of calls that have been made over the years. Maybe the referees should be provided with the option to determine who initiated contact, but when it comes to those sorts of tackles, I'd hate to encourage the kicking side in that situation.

The only call I believe the officials got wrong was the Roberts altercation. While I've seen worse on a football field (not that long ago might I add...), there was enough evidence (particularly the side-on view) to construe dangerous contact. I can understand Sutton not picking it up live given the amount of lee-way he was giving Simpkins in the ruck (far too much) but the video referee should have picked it up.

I could see a charge of Grade 1 Dangerous Contact, but Roberts will be free to play next week with an early guilty plea.

I've noticed there's been zero mention of Hoffman interfering with Pearson mid-air in the build up to the first goal-line drop-out. Considering it eventually lead to the opening try, I find that omission interesting, especially in the face of impartiality, objectivity and integrity.
 
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Just thought I'd continue the trend of this thread.

The channel 9 over-reaction about the Broncos has spilled over to LU! What are the odds?
 

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