So you’d have Penrith vs Souths in the current mode or Melbourne vs Souths/Penrith as the other conference model.
two conferences are fine, but then they need to merge for the finals
Merging conferences defeats purpose
So you’d have Penrith vs Souths in the current mode or Melbourne vs Souths/Penrith as the other conference model.
two conferences are fine, but then they need to merge for the finals
Conferences are stupid. There's a grand total of one place where they make sense. The North American sports have 30+ teams and unless they want their season to run all year round they can't have a competition without them. A conference system will never be necessary in Australian sport. Even the Premier League does just fine with 20 teams in a single table.
'Non-Sydney teams' isn't a group. Auckland (both the city and the club it's self) doesn't benefit if a Brisbane team makes the GF, and vice versa.Guarantees non Sydney teams as well is that equally repugnant?!
ARL 1997 avg attendance- 10,610.It's smart business because it maximizes audience. Super League was good in theory but reality is nobody wants to see Adelaide or Canberra play.
'Non-Sydney teams' isn't a group. Auckland (both the city and the club it's self) doesn't benefit if a Brisbane team makes the GF, and vice versa.
So yeah it's still repugnant in what is supposedly a 'national' competition, and the fact that anybody within the sport takes it seriously should tell you everything you need to know about why a sporting product that is (or rather was...) so great has totally failed to meet it's potential not only nationally, but globally.
ARL 1997 avg attendance- 10,610.
SL avg attendance- 13,039.
Top five highest club avg attendances in 1997-
1. Brisbane (SL)- 19,298
2. NQ (SL)- 17,539
3. Parramatta (ARL)- 15,647
4. Auckland (SL)- 15,442
5. Adelaide (SL)- 15,330
Present SL as it was intended, i.e. the original concept and before two years of BS and bad PR poisoned the RL market, and it's numbers would have absolutely dominated the ARL's.
Do we need to talk about the AFL's numbers as well? Because as our closest competitor, and as a truly national sport (i.e. a living example of what is being advocated for the NRL), they consistently kick the NRL's arse by basically every metric except one, ratings, and they regularly beat the NRL by that metric as well.
try telling that to afl clubs who are bringing in $80mill revenue compared to nrl clubs $25-30mill!Live attendance means shit.
Yeahcan there be 12 all queensland games with 4 Teams?
Seriously, WTF are you talking about...Afl has conference system it's not advertised as such. Draft & consessions given to Sydney teams to get them to finals every year along 10 (I think) teams from Melbourne to increase chance a team from there is represented.
That's simply untrue, and anybody who lived through it, or knows anything about the 'criteria' can attest to that.Live attendance means shit. When comps merged they kept mainly Sydney teams because that's who brought in ratings.
He's also single-handedly made the game borderline unwatchable with constant ill-thought out rule and 'interpretations' changes.Say what you like about Vladys but he brought the NRL back to life last year before any other sport and now he has delivered expansion and got TV to cough up more money for it. Credit where credit is due.
Seriously, WTF are you talking about...
That's simply untrue, and anybody who lived through it, or knows anything about the 'criteria' can attest to that.
He's also single-handedly made the game borderline unwatchable with constant ill-thought out rule and 'interpretations' changes.
He handed the game to Fox at a highly reduced rate for basically no reason. Makes you wonder why he's had nothing but good press from News when every other person in his position was dragged through the mud by them...
He's almost certainly going to waste the expansion slot, and force the NRL into a cycle of putting teams in every pissant region of Brisbane for the coming decades.
He's alienated every 'non-heartland' market, and set political relations with Vic, SA, WA, and probably places like ACT, NT, and NZ, back years.
Even some of his moves to keep the game going during covid were questionable at best. Like which areas of the game he cut funding, and how certain teams/markets consistently got the short end of his covid rules at the expense of others
I could go on, but the point is one good decision should only get you so far when all your other decisions have done so much damage.
Not to be pedantic but the most profitable years for the NRL was 2013 under Smith and Grant when the game made a $45mill surplus and 2018 under Greenberg and Beattie when the game made a $47mill surplus.Game more profitable than ever
Conferences build rivalries, create big games along way & terminate in super bowl.
Comments about why usa has them are wrong. Baseball & NBA play a huge schedule, only NFL has short season (actually expanded for first time this year). NFL's conferences are result of merger with afl.
that’s only because the game isnt very popular with fee paying fans and does very little to change that. Most afl clubs revenue from fanbase dwarves the Money they get from the TV deal.Way to bring up 90's criteria which doesn't take into account that broadcasting rights are biggest source of income these days & dwarf ticketing.
The NHL is split into 4 conferences. The Major League Baseball conferences are a hangover from when the American League and the National League were two separate competitions, they unified under Major League and until 1997 teams from the separate Leagues could only play each other in the World Series.
The NBA is split in two and then into further regional groupings. Again that sport isn't comparable given that the Dallas Mavericks will play 4 games in 8 days to start the season. The NFL is the closest comparison to the NRL as both are contact sports.
Also conferences don't build rivalries, prior to 1997 the two Chicago baseball teams could never play each other. Literally deprived of an intercity rivalry in a massive market place.
Not to mention the proposed NRL conferences would basically make everyone not in the Sydney conference subject to 10x the travel which the RLPA would point out and the clubs would rightfully demand higher salaries for the non-Sydney clubs because their player welfare is at a higher risk than the teams who never have to travel further than a two hours drive.
The solution is pretty simple. 20 teams, everyone plays each other twice, 3 stand alone weeks for Origin. A top 10 with 8-10 playing in an elimination wildcard before the standard top 8 system.
A lot of grey in this postHe's also single-handedly made the game borderline unwatchable with constant ill-thought out rule and 'interpretations' changes.
He handed the game to Fox at a highly reduced rate for basically no reason. Makes you wonder why he's had nothing but good press from News when every other person in his position was dragged through the mud by them...
He's almost certainly going to waste the expansion slot, and force the NRL into a cycle of putting teams in every pissant region of Brisbane for the coming decades.
He's alienated every 'non-heartland' market, and set political relations with Vic, SA, WA, and probably places like ACT, NT, and NZ, back years.
Even some of his moves to keep the game going during covid were questionable at best. Like which areas of the game he cut funding, and how certain teams/markets consistently got the short end of his covid rules at the expense of others
I could go on, but the point is one good decision should only get you so far when all your other decisions have done so much damage.
that’s only because the game isnt very popular with fee paying fans and does very little to change that. Most afl clubs revenue from fanbase dwarves the Money they get from the TV deal.