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NRL players stand up to contentious stand-down rule


The NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy faces another stern test this week – when the game’s disgruntled players take the rule on.

There will an arbitration hearing starting on Thursday with the Rugby League Players Association challenging the rule. Defeat will be costly for the loser – a six-figure sum in legal expenses.
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'So flawed it’s beyond words': Sponsor slams NRL's stand-down policy
Enacting the policy was the right move when it was made. If any player has committed a serious offence, especially against a woman, they deserve to have the book thrown at them. They certainly should not be playing in the NRL. But it was put together in haste to ensure it was enforceable before the 2019 season.

Consequently, it is flawed in the eyes of critics. It has no contingency for the Jack de Belin situation, where he has been forced out of the game for two years – and faces even longer on the sideline while a retrial is held.


His position becomes even worse next year as his new contract penalises him financially while he awaits trial – on top of the ongoing reputational damage.

The real dilemma for the NRL will come if de Belin’s second trial – using the same evidence and probably the same witnesses – comes up with the same result, with the jury unable to make a decision.

Legal experts say a third trial is held “only in exceptional circumstances”, so de Belin would most likely be freed with the same question marks hanging over his head that put him out of the game in the first place.

If that were to happen, most expect de Belin would sue the game for damages. While the Federal Court ruled last year that the no-fault policy was legal, de Belin would argue it was never meant to be so punitive and he should have been allowed back in the NRL once the first trial could not determine his guilt or innocence.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...tentious-stand-down-rule-20201212-p56mys.html
 

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...g/news-story/d85f3d4437c8e612b925d684f85820f7
‘It’s not going anywhere’: NRL ‘very confident’ no-fault stand down will survive challenge

Dragons player Jack de Belin is sidelined under the NRL’s no-fault stand down policy. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Simon Bullard.Source: News Corp Australia
The NRL’s no-fault stand down policy will be put to the test this week when the governing body and Rugby League Players Association go before an arbitrator on Thursday.
However, NRL CEO Andrew Abdo is comfortable with the policy’s place in the game and says “it’s not going anywhere.”

The Sydney Morning Heraldreports the RLPA is challenging the rule, arguing it was introduced in February, 2019, without adequate consultation making it a breach of the players’ collective bargaining agreement.

The NRL will go into the hearing with a slight edge given the no-fault stand down policy was examined in court in May last year. Federal Court Justice Melissa Perry dismissed a claim that the rule constituted an “unlawful trade” for Dragons player Jack de Belin.

De Belin has already spent the 2019 and 2020 seasons on the sidelines due to sexual assault charges and will now miss the opening two months of the 2021 season at the very least after a jury was unable to reach a verdict in his trial last month. His new trial will commence in April.
 

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Extraordinary details emerge about Jarryd Hayne's encounter with his alleged rape victim - from flirty DMs to leaving a vodka cruiser in her letterbox - as the jury is dismissed and he faces a 2021 retrial
  • Jurors in Jarryd Hayne's rape trial unable to reach an agreement on the verdict
  • Jury of eight men and four women told the judge the were deadlocked
  • In response, Judge Whitford had no option but to discharge the jury on Monday
  • The case has been adjourned until December 16 to decide on the next step
  • Court heard Hayne and his accuser exchanged flirty messages on Instagram
  • She sent him Instagram message telling him he was 'absolutely gorgeous'
  • He responded a day later on September 14, 2018, with the words: 'Price it'
By AUSTRALIAN ASSOCIATED PRESS and CHARLIE COË and AIDAN WONDRACZ FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

NRL star Jarryd Hayne was one of Australia's most famous rugby league players when a young woman sent him an Instagram message saying he was 'absolutely gorgeous'.

Hayne said he was holidaying in Dubai, cruising a mall, when he replied a day later on September 14, 2018, saying: 'Price it.'

The young woman, who had been a successful model winning competitions, asked him: 'Price what? Do you think I'm an escort or something because I'm not.'

Hayne responded with three smiley face emojis saying he had been talking to a guy about buying a Rolex and was not sure how the woman got the message.

Hayne then asked the woman - one of his more than 400,000 Instagram followers - to send him some photographs.

The jury in former NRL star Jarryd Hayne's rape trial has been discharged after failing to reach a verdict (pictured, Hayne arrives at Newcastle Court on December 2)

The woman told him he could never put a price on her but 'I'm not saying it wouldn't be hot as hell'.

She said she wasn't going to lie and she had imagined what it would be like to be 'f***ing' him.

He replied: 'Ha ha wow.'

He told her he liked her honesty.

The woman agreed to send him photos of her posing in her underwear in front of a mirror but could not remember sending him any nudes on Snapchat.
Hayne said she did.

The pair exchanged flirty, steamy and sexually explicit messages on social media for nearly a fortnight before Hayne told the woman he was travelling to Newcastle for a two-day bucks party for rugby league player Kevin Naiqama.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...al-jury-DISMISSED-failing-come-agreement.html

Hayne paid a taxi driver $550 to take him to Sydney from the party but asked her to stop off at the woman's nearby house for a few minutes to pick up a bag. He didn't tell anyone at the bucks party what he had planned.

Other players attending the party included Waisale 'Wes' Naiqama, Kane Evans, Vitale Junior Roqica, Sauaso 'Jesse' Sue and Apisai Koroisau.

He put one of his vodka cruisers on the letterbox as he headed for the woman's front door.

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Hayne sent the woman who had accused him of rape a message saying 'price it' in their first exchanges on Instagram, the court heard

The woman admitted - when giving evidence at Hayne's rape trial in the Newcastle District Court last week - how she must have been living in fairyland hoping they would have a future together.

Hayne shared videos of his young daughter with her during their social media exchanges so their interaction was not all about sex, which made her think there was a chance he wanted to be close to her.

'I wanted to meet him. I really didn't know what was going to happen. Some of the things I said (on social media) were to get him to like me and that's embarrassing,'' she told the jury.

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The woman told him he could never put a price on her but 'I'm not saying it wouldn't be hot as hell'

'I thought it would turn into something more.

'I just wanted to hang out with him.

'When you get attracted to someone, it just happens like that.'

The woman, 26 at the time, claimed she was not a big footy fan but knew who Hayne was. Most Australians do.

Hayne is regarded as one of the country's greatest rugby league players, making his debut for the Eels in 2006 at 19 and going on to represent NSW and Australia as well as playing for Fiji in rugby union sevens.

He was known for his signature move, the 'Hayne Plane', where he would pin his arms back like wings after scoring a try.

Hayne left the Eels in 2015 to join the San Francisco 49ers, but was later dropped from the NFL team's roster.

Hayne leaves Newcastle Court in Newcastle after the jury in his trial failed to reach a verdict on Monday

He returned to play for the Gold Coast Titans in 2016 before rejoining the Eels on a one-year contract in 2018.

On the way to Newcastle for the bucks party on Saturday, September 29, 2018, Hayne sent the woman a video of him drinking and singing.

He arrived too late for the bucks party golf day but spent the afternoon drinking at the clubhouse.

The woman sent him a text message at 10.11pm asking: 'Babe, will you be here tomorrow night?'

He replied: 'Nah, we're going back tomorrow.'

She told him: 'Stay one more night. I'm ruined ... otherwise take me back (to Sydney) ha ha. I'm full serious and you know it.'

At 12.55am on Sunday, the woman sent Hayne another message telling him she was seeing him before he went, suggesting they meet for coffee or breakfast.

Jarryd Hayne and his girlfriend Amellia Bonnici arrive at court on December 3, the last day of the trial

Hayne, who didn't end up going to bed until well after 4am, went to paintball instead before going on a pub crawl with the boys.

He later asked the woman if she wanted to join him and the boys, telling her she could bring a friend but she declined. She didn't want to go to a house full of men drinking.

Questioned by defence barrister Phillip Boulten SC during the trial, the woman agreed she was open to the idea of having sex with Hayne if he arrived at her house and 'it went that way'.

At 7.36pm she sent Hayne her address but he didn't arrive until about 9pm.

While she was waiting, she sent him a message: 'Where are you fool?'

Whatever happened inside the woman's bedroom will always be in dispute.

The woman claimed she told him 'no' to sex after she realised he had a taxi waiting for him outside but he ignored her.

Hayne said he knew she didn't want to have sex but decided to give her oral sex to please her with her consent. He said she never said 'no' or 'stop'.

She thought he had bitten her vagina when there was suddenly blood everywhere but he said he must have accidentally cut her with his finger.
 

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The jury in Hayne's case could not reach a unanimous decision. Hayne pictured leaving Newcastle Court on Monday

On the way out to his taxi for the trip back to Sydney after washing the blood from his hands and face, he grabbed the vodka cruiser from the letterbox to take with him.

The jury on Monday could not make up their minds as to who to believe.

The Newcastle District Court jury of eight men and four women told Judge Peter Whitford SC on Monday they were deadlocked and could not reach a unanimous decision or the alternative 11-1 majority verdict.

Judge Whitford had no option but to discharge the jury, which had been deliberating since 1pm on Thursday.

The judge had earlier told the jury it was important not to reach a verdict based on Hayne's behaviour on the night as this was 'not a court of morals'.

The jury sent a note to the judge at 12.38pm explaining they had re-examined all the evidence but could not reach a decision.

'This decision has not been taken lightly. No amount of time and deliberation will be able to change this,' the jury's note said.

Hayne, 32, had pleaded not guilty to two charges of aggravated sexual assault recklessly inflicting actual bodily harm after being accused of raping a woman in her bedroom on the night of the 2018 NRL grand final.

Hayne, 32 (pictured), had pleaded not guilty to two charges of aggravated sexual assault recklessly inflicting actual bodily harm after being accused of raping a woman in her bedroom on the night of the 2018 NRL grand final

The case has been adjourned to December 16 for mention to decide what happens next.

Hayne will not have to appear if represented by a lawyer.

The woman told the jury Hayne tried to kiss and touch her but when she said 'no' and 'stop' he pushed her head into the pillow, ripped off her trousers and attacked her.

Hayne claimed he knew the woman did not want to have sex with him after she realised he had a taxi waiting outside but she agreed to him performing oral sex on her

Hayne claimed he knew the woman did not want to have sex with him after she realised he had a taxi waiting outside but she agreed to him performing oral sex on her to please her.

He said the woman's injuries must have been caused when he accidentally cut her with his finger.

The woman later sent text messages to her best friend saying she thought Hayne had bitten her and she felt violated.

At the heart of the trial were two very different versions of what happened that night.

He had never met the woman but believed she had promised him sex after they had been exchanging flirty messages on Instagram and Snapchat.

According to the woman's version, she had been open to having sex with Hayne but was hoping for a future with the former Parramatta Eels star, not a fling.

She said after answering the door, she took Hayne straight into her bedroom because she was embarrassed to be back living with her mother when she was 26.

The woman said Hayne was drunk and it was an awkward situation when they were lying on the bed before he suggested a singalong to some Ed Sheeran songs, which she thought was weird.

She realised the image she had of Hayne was not the reality.

When the woman heard a beeping sound and looked out to see Hayne's taxi, she became angry and told him they were not having sex.

Pictured: Jarryd Hayne is seen outside the Newcastle Court, in Newcastle, on December 2

Hayne went out to speak to the taxi driver to tell her he would be a little longer before returning and heading into the lounge room to watch the grand final and called out, 'Go Roosters. I'm jealous.'

The woman said Hayne came back to the bedroom and tried to kiss her but she said no and he attacked her.

In Hayne's version, when he arrived at the house the woman's mother opened the door before he was ushered into the woman's bedroom.

He tried to get the 'convo' flowing but it was a strange situation so he suggested playing some of his 'go to' songs to break the ice.

Hayne said after the woman noticed the taxi, her mood changed and she asked if he thought he could just come to her house for sex.

He said he told her, 'It's up to you really', before going out to tell the taxi driver he would be a few more minutes.

Hayne, who on a drunkenness scale of one to 10 believed he was about a six, claimed he went back into the bedroom but there was little small talk so he checked the grand final scores on his phone.

Hayne (pictured) claimed he might have caressed the woman's face when kissing and touching her before she eventually took off her pants and he began giving her oral sex with her consent

He then decided to go out to the lounge room to watch the end of the game because he was excited for two of his former NSW teammates, James Tedesco and Boyd Cordner, who were playing for the Roosters and were going to win.

Hayne then went back into the woman's bedroom and knowing he had to go soon, kissed the woman and she kissed him back.

Hayne claimed he might have caressed the woman's face when kissing and touching her before she eventually took off her pants and he began giving her oral sex with her consent.

He claimed he jumped up in shock when he realised the woman was suddenly bleeding before going to the bathroom to wash the blood off his hands and face.

He said he never intended to hurt the woman and did not bite her.

Hayne said he left after telling the woman to go to the doctor the next day if she was still in pain.

'There was nothing else I could do. I was apologetic,' Hayne told the jury.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...al-jury-DISMISSED-failing-come-agreement.html


Jarryd Hayne's rape trial jury is DISMISSED after failing to come to any agreement
 

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I am leaning towards Hayne should be allowed to play.

The NRL should be allowed to make enquiries as to the jury count and the likelihood therefore of the defendant being convicted on the next occasion. If the court will not advise of this then the NRL should be allowed to say we in that case we are applying the benefit of the doubt.

Hayne's version is now out there on the record and to be honest it is not disrespectful to women when you factor in the tinder age etc and this girl being keen and flirtation. His version is believable and not particularly bad.

De Bellin's is bad even on his version.

The NRL could allow him back on the condition he does good deeds for women's groups etc.

Those are my submissions.
Nobody has access to the jury count let alone the NRL. I’m happy with the stand down rule as it serves as a great deterrent for bad behavior.
 

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Nobody has access to the jury count let alone the NRL. I’m happy with the stand down rule as it serves as a great deterrent for bad behavior.

I am okay with it as well up until the trial, at which time if they are not found guilty and they haven't admitted to bad conduct they should be allowed to play. It is still a strong deterrent, so each of your points is shit.
 

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I am leaning towards Hayne should be allowed to play.

The NRL should be allowed to make enquiries as to the jury count and the likelihood therefore of the defendant being convicted on the next occasion. If the court will not advise of this then the NRL should be allowed to say we in that case we are applying the benefit of the doubt.

Hayne's version is now out there on the record and to be honest it is not disrespectful to women when you factor in the tinder age etc and this girl being keen and flirtation. His version is believable and not particularly bad.

De Bellin's is bad even on his version.

The NRL could allow him back on the condition he does good deeds for women's groups etc.

Those are my submissions.
The NRL can already apply the benefit of the doubt. They don't want to. And no women's group wants Jarryd Hayne within 15km of them. As for your assertion that Haynes version of events is not disrespectful to women I respectfully disagree. That's my submission.
 

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I am okay with it as well up until the trial, at which time if they are not found guilty and they haven't admitted to bad conduct they should be allowed to play. It is still a strong deterrent, so each of your points is shit.
I disagree and think you should change your name to T Bone.
 

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As for your assertion that Haynes version of events is not disrespectful to women I respectfully disagree. That's my submission.

that is just you thinking men shouldn't do tinder type stuff because you really think women shouldn't be behaving that way.
 

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No it's not. I'm not talking about the online stuff. I'm talking about what happened once he was inside the house, with a skinful.

what he said happened was believable and respectful to women unless you think of women as being like they were in the 1920s.
 

T-Boon

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What part of Hayne's story is respectful to women?

It is respectful if its not disrespectful. So all of it.
Admittedly his call to Pearce was disrespectful of her (though not women) but by then he was being falsely accused on his story and you don't have to be respectful to someone who is falsely accusing you.
 
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